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What i did was took a advertise paper which they did for $9777 for Stickshift GLS. I knew everything which i want comes as default in GLS but automatic. So i made a offer of 10,500 which is $9777 + $750 for automatic. I have to go to three different dealers with that offer. Finally one of them accepted it and gave me the car.
I also got woodgrain trim, mudgaurds, california emmission, carpeted floormates and trunck cargo net included in this price.
Be firm with your amount. Don't fell in love with car which you test drive(this will tend you to pay more). I decided that if i don't get the car for $10,500 that weekend i will not buy and rather wait dealers to call me back.
They were trying to sell theory that Advertise price does not work that way. Advertise price are just to attract the buyers. But it worked for me.
Also see edmunds.com and carsdirect.com to get awarness about the price of the car with options which you want.
Hope this helps.
Ron
I adore my new baby!
p.s. I thought you got completely ripped on your deal before I realized you were talking Canadian money!!
I would not have minded leather and standard cruise control, but it is not obtainable here.
Prime Beige is one the biggest sellers here along with Silver.
Now I know that the sedans (don't know if they're GL's GLS's VE's or what - I didn't check out sedans at all, I wanted a hatch) have another type of interior which is a beige/gold sort of velourish interior. My cloth interior I think is much nicer - a dark, dark grey with little Hyundai dots of colour. And it's got a different feel from other cloth interiors I've felt before. Smoother almost, I guess. I like the feel of it very much.
The other two cars I looked at: the Suzuki Aerio SX wagon came in at almost the same price, and the Protege5 which priced out at about $2500 Cdn more expensive. One of my best friends just got a blue Protege5 a couple of weeks before me and honestly - I think I got more than he did for way less money. It will be interesting to see how these two cars age side-by-side. And it seems to me that for a fellow who used to be so anti-Hyundai, he's starting to sing a different tune.
Just picked up a beige Elantra VE last week. Paid $15,600 CDN b/f taxes, etc. Got woodgrain kit, floormats, hood deflector, block htr, ext. warranty & spoiler as part of pkg. (end of month deal + end of model yr clearout, I guess)
I've put 1200Km on it so far, and on my first long drive (Ottawa to Toronto, approx 4hrs) I averaged 42mpg (mind you, I averaged 80 - 100 Km/h 'cause I'm still breaking in the car). The car drives like a dream; having driven more rentals than I can remember, I can honestly say that the Elantra fit, finish, handling & ride is more comparable to midsize sedans (Camry, Accord, Legacy) than the compacts it's supposed to "compete" against.
I just wanted to say a BIG thanks to everyone who posted msgs here and all the other TH boards; your opinions & experiences were invaluable.
I'm still pinching myself; this car is amazing!!!!
zippin' right along,
thinkin' 'bout a song
'bout my pewter gls.
The price they quoted via e-mail was $15,576. I asked for $15,000 and immediately that was it. I think they still have some rooms to yield.
It was Glassman Hyundai at Southfiled, MI. They do quite well and does not pressurized me(maybe my offer was too generous...)
The car runs good and I love it.
The standard 8.75% tax was applied to my purchase when I bought my GLS (financed). $11600 is a really good price...$1100 under invoice. But I recommend not leasing if you are a Chicago resident. Here's a link that I received from "footie" in the "Leases Questions" forum about Chicago leasing(thanks footie!)
http://www.suntimes.com/classified/autos/faqs/buy_or_lease.html
Thanks
First, there is STILL low financing or Rebates on the 2002 models thru 9/30/02. While the car ITSELF is the same, the packages have been re-arranged. If you want a Factory CD player, you might want to get the 2002 as the 2003's only offer it in an expensive sunroof package. However, ABS is available in an inexpensive package and also available WITH the sunroof on the 2003. In 2002 you couldn't get the GLS with BOTH the roof and ABS. As for the GT, it doesn't matter which you get... they are the same. Note, however, there is a GT Sedan available for 2003.
bhought it for $10,500 200 GLS + Automatic including rebate.
What all options you are getting for $11,999 ? I
got it for $10,500 2002 GLS + Automatic including rebate.
Mine is automatic, with package 2 - cruise and keyless entry. It also has the mud flaps and floormats. However, when I got there to sign the papers, the price had "mysteriously" gone up by $300.00. I walked out. It may have been an honest misunderstanding, I thought 12,999 plus rebate, she says she said 12,299 total, and over the phone with her accent, she may have. The other dealership has offered to meet whatever price set by the other, so I'm going to call him this morning and see if he's serious. I'd rather buy it locally anyway.
Mine is GLS + Automatic and Mudguard, floormats, california emmission + truck cargo net + woodgrain trim. On road, it was $11600 including everything
( Tax + documentation + ... + Rebate) . Yuo might also want to see carsdirect.com price.
Mind you, in Canada they only offer 3yr/60km warranty and our taxes are at 15%.
I just priced an Elantra GT on the Canadian site and the amount quoted was $22,427 CAD, or $14,199.70 USD. With the same options that the GT that I purchased just a few months ago that I paid $13,350 for...Not to mention the warranty is slightly different as well.
I think that some dealers realize there isn’t a lot of competition and willing/able to charge window for the GT's...I think that Kentavos could negotiate a bit more, if they wont negotiate walk out, if they don’t chase you out the door offering a better deal call up and talk to the Sales Manager or go to another dealership
I didn't pay MSRP, and I don't imagine others did either. The price I paid last May was about $1,300CDN under MSRP.
To compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges would require comparing what people actually paid for their cars in both countries.
Alternatively, look at the Hyundai Canada and Hyundai USA websites, where you can build the same car and compare (MSRP) prices. Using the online prices, the Canadian cars are significantly cheaper.
Basic Elantra GT in Canada with Manual Transmission is $18,500 CAD or $11,700 USD.
Basic Elantra GT in US with Manual Transmission is $13,999 USD or $22,115 CAD.
Yes about $2300 Difference. I wonder how much the warranty could account for the difference?
Canada has a 5 Year 100,000 KM Power Train warranty VS US 10 Year 160,900 KM Power Train warranty
Canada has a 3 year 60,000 KM Comprehensive warranty VS US 5 Year 96,540 KM Comprehensive warranty
Does Canada have any additional fees such as brokerage fees? And taxes are significantly higher (GST, and PST)?
I imagine the shorter warranty accounts for part of the difference, but car prices are generally lower in Canada (check out any other car manufacturer website to compare) - to be competitive, Hyundai's prices have to be low.
I've never heard of brokerage fees - I paid only freight and pdi which were $700Cdn.
As for the taxes, they may be high, but Hyundai doesn't get any of that money, so that can't account for the price difference.
I was given the following Net Special pricing from a local dealer here in Central FL:
2002 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sedan GLS
Internet Special Price: $10,150
4-speed AUTO: $753
AG-2: $354
AG-3: $651
So I guess we have either $11,257 or $11,554.
Prior to this e-mail, he sent me a strange quote for $11,400 as another dealer was offering a 2002 Elantra with Auto, CD, etc. for $11,200 after some strange rebates that I couldn't find in existance anywhere--I believer they were a $1000 discount + $1000 factory rebate + $2000 MINIMUM trade for anything you could get on their lot.
I honestly don't know how those games work, though I do have a "near-death" 90 Mazda 323 that can be used as a trade or donated to one of those car charities.
Whatever the case, we WILL need financing, and I was hoping to get a 0%/60 month offer, which the one dealer with the trade and $2000 rebates appears to be offering. It seems that Hyundai is also putting up a 0.9% APR as well.
At any rate, these prices all seem to be below Edmunds.com TMV, but naturally, I'd like to get the best deal I can, and I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any suggestions? I could really use some help!
Thanks!
--Cetacea
Also, watch out on the internet prices. One of the dealers around here quoted me a great deal on the vehicle over the phone after emailing me with a guarantee to beat a competitor. I set up an appointment and headed down for an hour + drive. Before I left, the salesperson I spoke with called back to say she was called out on a family emergency and gave me another name. When I arrived, their first offer on the car was about $1400 over the quoted price. After I started to walk out, they lowered the price and brought in the "closer". They kept saying that they couldn't get down to the quoted price as that was just too low for their manager, and what a shame it was that the original salesperson wasn't there. Unfortunately for them, the closer slipped up later and said that the original salesperson was busy with another customer. It seems like they pull a scam where they lowball an offer, get you to agree to come in, pull a salesman switch, and then can't seem to meet the price of that first salesman. I looked at a pad on the salesman's desk that had some notes on an offer for a Sonata for $14k. The person took a bus from Ohio to pick up the car at that price, but when they got there, it just so happened that the salesperson that they were supposed to meet was out with an emergency. This poor woman spent 8 hours arguing with my salesman before heading back home. 10 hours on a bus to get scammed. Then she had to go back home! The crazy part was that my salesman told me about this without me asking to try to get me to buy a car. What a fool!
They did finally get close to the offer, but I walked out for obvious reasons. I got a matched offer from their main competitor. Chalked this one up to a learning experience! If there is a better way to buy a car that doesn't involve "the game", let me know. What a bizarre experience.
Buy a Saturn. You'll pay full list price, but at least there won't be "the game." Based on Saturn's high marks for dealership experience in surveys like CRs, many people like that approach. Not me, though--I'm willing to play "the game" if that's what it takes to get a good price. There's also discount services, like AAA's and Costco's, that pre-arrange discounts for buyers. You may not get the best possible price, but you'll get a decent discount and not have to play "the game." Then there is the rare dealer that will advertise a car at a given (low) price, and honor the price without any games. They do exist.
Not the greatest deal out there, but then again, a shade under Edmund's TMV (my benchmark). And to top it off, my credit union gave me a 2% rebate on the loan. So for me, it's a fair deal. Best of all, I spent NO time playing "the game" with a dealer.
In the meantime, they have not given me any quote on my 2002 civic LX sedan AT for trade-in. The blue book gives 12,000 on it, wouldn't that be too low? Do you guys happen to have experience on how to get a higher trade-in price? I would be really love to hear that. Thanks a lot.
Hope my wife will enjoy the test-drive tomorrow or I will just have to call it off.
You can try and go lower, one trick is to get the best price from one dealer and go to the next, and go to the next, and pitch the price. Don't start with a trade. Get the best price (not payments) with no trade, then work on the trade. You may find that selling in the classifieds will yeild more money. It seems that trades are fetching way too low of a price these days. Take a look at the "true cost to own" on any vehicle. Then look at used dealer prices / trade-in.
I mean what are these used car guys doing to get that much of a mark-up? I think I need to change my line of work.
By the way, are you going to the Fleet week this weekend? It is supposed to fun "FA-18 flying above SF finanical district", someone must be scared over there.
I live in central NJ and this is only one with AG#5 (ABS) in their lot. It is White color.
I've finally found a dealer that has some 2002 GT's in stock. I've been quoted by Mirak Hyundai in Arlington MA a total price including destination for a 2002 Carbon Blue w/pkg 10 $13,050. (5 spd)
The same car with same options in a 2003 was quoted for $14,388.
What if any difference is there between these 2 cars? I know the $1250 rebate factors in but is there any signifigant benefits by buying a 03 over the 02?
Have there been some issues that may have been corrected on the 03? The only noticable difference I can tell is the addition of the rear spoiler lip.
Another dealer quoted me about 13925 for a 2003 with pkg 6(sunroof) but that sems way too low....I have a feeling I'd make the trip out there and that price would go away....you know the games they play.
I really, really liked the one I drove at auto Fair which was a Carbon Blue 03 with ALL the toys except for auto and there price was approx 15.3K. The clutch felt great compared to the other GT I drove and there was no notchy feeling in the shifter. That was as low as they would go. They actually told me to buy the one at RT2 at that price as it is a steal and the dealer would be losing his [non-permissible content removed] basically.
What to do....what to do....
Don't want to make a 1500 dollar mistake but don't want to miss out on maybe getting some upgrade in the 03 that I will regret in a few years....
Man I think way too much into this
I like the car but I hate the pricing games. Any help will be appreciated. I want to close a deal by Friday aft.
I was planning on buying one but will have to wait for sometime next year.
So far my only complaint is the leather steering wheel is too slippery.:>)