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1. are there any room for negotiation on residual value, money factor, acquisition fee and disposition fee? if so, how much?
2. do these numbers vary dealer by dealer?
3. people can get invoice price from edmunds or consumer reports. i wonder if there is some generally accepted place to find the negotiation baseline for such figures as residual value, money factor, bank fees, .. etc. (it seems generally agreed that the residual for bmw 5 is about 60%...)
your insights greatly appreciated.
.0022 - .00235 with BMWFS
.0018 leasing with Wells Fargo (credit score of 740 and up)
For the 530i, my contact mentioned .00195.
As far as selling price, around $2000 off MSRP.
help!
So he jacks the acquisition fee from $625 to $825.
He then tells me there is also a document fee of $399.
Does anyone know if the document fee is legitimate or is it just more padding?
MF is .0022 with security deposit
.00235 without security deposit
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Money factor is also set by the bank.. the dealer may mark it up.. Only the mark-up is negotiable.. Always insist on the base money factor.
Disposition fee is set by bank is non-negotiable.
2) Only the money factor and/or acquisition fee can vary.. Insist on base rates.
3) If you google for other Bimmer forums, you'll see the invoice prices posted.. KBB.com is another good source. Check the Prices Paid boards here at Edmunds to get a feel for selling prices.
regards,
kyfdx
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The last new car that I bought.. had a grand-total of $39 in extra charges.. but, every one of them was related to a government fee such as temporary tags, title transfer, registration, etc.. It was refreshing... Our agreed on price was $22,800 and the total amount was $22,839.xx...
Taxes paid later at time of licensing in my home state..
regards,
kyfdx
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as well. I was told I could expect delivery the last week of June, however
the dealer now advises first or second week in July....torture.
2006 530xi
Manual transmission
Black Sapphire metallic with gray leather interior
Cold weather package
Premium package
Premium sound package
Rear side airbags
Rear sunshades
Park distance control
Navigation system
Head-up display
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Titanium silver with gray leather comfort seats. Paying $673 a month, nothing down.
Car loans are about 4.5%. Couldn't resist 2.4% money from BMWFS.
That silver streak whizzing by all you Infiniti M's and Lexus GS430's in September will be me!
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In this part of Florida deals are "scarce."
Deals are available on the other side of Florida.
I proposed a lease deal to Braman BMW of Palm Beach. They accepted it. But they are almost 300 miles away.
My local dealer cried there is no way he could do my deal and wanted to charge me $3000 more for the car.
I told him okay, it's worth $100 flight to get the deal with one of his competitors on the other side of Florida. An hour later he e-mailed me that he would match the deal. So much for there is no way he could do it.
The only way to get a good deal is to structure the deal yourself. E-mail 5-10 different dealers showing them a breakdown of your deal. Then play the dealer with the best deal against the dealer who is closest to your location.
Why even get into the email game and why waste the time of that many dealers.? .. a face gets a whole lot more done than an email .. do you have any idea how many "kids" shop their Ford Focus and a try to get a price on a 545 at the same time.? -- Tons ....
Terry.
New to this board........ trying to figure everything out- how do you find out what the invoice price is? Do I just go into build a bmw? or is there another way? Sorry if I seem so green - just trying to figure all this out- I am serious about buying (not leasing) the care.
Thanks
lookin1
While the face game may be a valid approach for other vehicles, I knew I could get a good deal on a 545i the lazy way and sure enough, I did, at 2.4% interest.
You have to e-mail 5-10 dealers to take into consideration that some dealerships will not respond.
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kyfdx
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regards,
kyfdx
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I ordered. My thinking was that if I asked for a "typical" 545, it would be equipped with sports package. Cars like that are a dime a dozen sitting on dealers lots, many since January-March when a lot of people were reporting software problems with their new 545's. I did not want to be stuck with one of those vehicles.
So I asked for comfort seats, something I knew the dealer would have a hard time finding in a 545 sitting on someone's lot. Sure enough, no such vehicle could be located in Florida and the order was submitted to the factory to be built sometime in August. By ordering the comfort seats, I believe I will be getting a vehicle free of annoying software glitches since all updates will have been done on a fresh new vehicle.
Since my 2002 325i lease is up on August 2nd, I will probably have to extend my old lease 1 month while I wait for my new 545i. No problem since I will be renting my new car for only 2.4% and car loans are going for around 4.5%.
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hpowders
All the best.
Also, when connecting a bluetooth enabled phone, what functions exactly is one able to use? i.e., does the phone use the car's audio system to provide hands-free useage?
You kinda left that part out ..l.o.l.. ... all do respect Hp, but you could have walked into any Bimmer store from Atlanta to Miami and received that kind of deal on an ordered vehicle .. remember, most Bimmer stores only sell 80/90 vehicles a month and most times they can't afford selling current inventory for alot less money ..... an ordered vehicle.? those they can deal with, especially on a 545 ....
Terry.
I would have thought that the dealer would want to move his current inventory out. What do you think is a good price on ordering a 545i? How much over invoice?
I am interested in similar deal.
Thanks.
Do you remember how long your car was "en route"?
good luck.
Martin
Thanks
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who did you deal with on your ED purchase...
also do you have any knowledge or does anyone know of any resources that are available that I can enter in the vin# of a bmw and it will tell me all of the installed options on that vehicle...both standard and optional equip....thanks..or do you know where I can get an original invoice on a used bmw i own??
thanks
who did you deal with on your ED purchase...
also do you have any knowledge or does anyone know of any resources that are available that I can enter in the vin# of a bmw and it will tell me all of the installed options on that vehicle...both standard and optional equip....thanks..or do you know where I can get an original invoice on a used bmw i own??
thanks
do you have any knowledge or does anyone know of any resources that are available that I can enter in the vin# of a bmw and it will tell me all of the installed options on that vehicle...both standard and optional equip....thanks..or do you know where I can get an original invoice on a used bmw i own??
thanks
do you have any knowledge or does anyone know of any resources that are available that I can enter in the vin# of a bmw and it will tell me all of the installed options on that vehicle...both standard and optional equip....thanks..or do you know where I can get an original invoice on a used bmw i own??
thanks
Your question concerning the vin# of a bmw was just answered on another bimmer forum. I don't know if it was you who posted the question. If not, google other bimmer forums, and you'll find what I'm talking about. Likewise, there's an outstanding Eur Del section on that forum to answer all your ED questions.
I used Santa Barbara BMW. Pickup 5/2/05 Munich, arrived Santa Barbara 6/22/05 (one day after my b'day).
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