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Bob
Bob,
I agree, but let's see how they perform in the long run. I, being a skeptic, am a little hesitant about passing judgement on a brand new vehicle, and a new redesign of the Ford.
As they say, time will tell.
Bob
How did the Titan drive, like the best truck ever, LOL?
Guess you'll just have to wait with everything crossed like the rest of us.
Cheers.
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Bob
Lots of nice photos, navigating around you can see ever car you guys shot. I bet you've already plopped down a deposit at the Nissan dealer.
Hey, being dyslexic, (did you know it strikes 10 out of every 1 people?) I noticed Nissan backwards is N-[non-permissible content removed]-in, still buying one, wink?
While I like the Nissan a lot, I'm not in the market (yet) for a full-size pickup. Regardless, I still like the vehicle a lot. I think Nissan will have long lines waiting to buy this pickup, just like Honda had when the Pilot first came out.
Bob
I agree, it is probably a fine truck but I don't need one now. Looking over the features I feel they had Ford directly in their sights but Nissan appears to have done it one better. I like cutting edge, I'm just not as passionate about it as you are. I am jealous of being back in my birthplace of Ballmer...until I saw the weather report. It was mid-60's in our part of FL today, windows are down!
Where abouts in "Ballmer" did you live in? I came to Baltimore in the mid 1960s to go to college. I now live about 20 miles west of Baltimore, in the western part of Howard County.
Bob
Forgive me other readers as this departs from the post.
Subaru? Not insulting but they aren't really mainstream, at least down here. Up north and in Colo the Forrester seemed to be as common as a civic, and for good reason, reliable, versatile, and great in bad traction situations, a little too quirky for my tastes.
Since this is a Nissan board (Titan, but taking a time out) I have to know your thoughts on the Murano. Is it a feeble attempt at a crossover sport or what the newest generation sees as their family wagon successor?
I was born in Ball'mer city in '60 but grew up in the burbs, Pikesville, Reisterstown, moved to Frederick area in '72. I remember floating raw bar/barges where the Light Street pavillion thingies are now. I WAS a Colts fan, have my personalized autographed Brooks Robinson baseball, and remember the riots even though I was still a punk. Eventually I migrated to Gaithersburg (actually it migrated to me, LOL). I came down here because there was work and it's too ^%*#$&%$# cold up there. MD is pretty, I miss fishing Calvert Cliffs too, (why does my fish have 3 eyes?), LOL. Keep the passionate reviews flowing.
Davester
Mainstram they're not, which is one of the reasons I love them. AWD, and their fairly recent discovery of performance is the other. I'll never buy another vehicle, or car at least, that's not AWD. I really am looking forward to the new 2.5L turbo Forester which will be introduced in about 14 hours (from the time of this posting) at the Chicago auto show.
<< Since this is a Nissan board (Titan, but taking a time out) I have to know your thoughts on the Murano. Is it a feeble attempt at a crossover sport or what the newest generation sees as their family wagon successor? >>
I drove a Murano a couple of weeks ago. I was very curious about the CVT tranny. Frankly I was very impressed with the vehicle. It's quite powerful, and is one of the sportiest (in terms of handling) SUVs that I've driven.
It's not perfect. There is a very bad blind spot created by the rear quarter window, when you're looking over your right shoulder, while backing. That's clearly a concession to design. The new Infiniti FX45 has an even worse blind spot. I sat in one at the Baltimore car show. I also wonder how the CVT will hold up in the long run, especially if you do any towing. I also prefer the full-time AWD that Subaru offers, rather than the on-demand AWD that the Murano offers.
Bob
The Crew cab reportedly will be shown in April at the NY Auto show—unless Nissan surprises us at the Chicago auto show. There also will be an SUV derived off this platform. I've heard it will have an IRS, like the new Expedition. I've also heard it may(?) be the next Pathfinder, and that it be actually be on sale before the pickup!
Bob
Bob
So I go inside looking for this article—and can't find a thing! Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch...
Somebody dropped the ball...
Bob
The next Pathfinder will be full-size, and will be built off the Titan platform. A couple of reports have mentioned that it will have an IRS, like the new Expedition. There is no mention of that here, however. The sketch looks great, IMO.
It will be introduced at the NY auto show this spring.
Bob
I got my Autoweek too. There are 13 color pages of the full size Nissan SUV inside & out to include a 4-fold centerfold, wowee! What a shame you're missing it hero. I guess your postman is also excited about it, check your page numbers, you'll see what I mean.
NOT! I could almost hear the page scrambling from here. I hope Nissan makes it available this year.
Bob
LOL, just kidding!
they handed out the biggest poster i have ever seen at the car show today for thsi truck
http://www.autonews.com/article.cms?articleId=43257
Bob
The Titan is defintely a nice truck, but $5-$7K more than my Tundra... I don't think so! Yet it is bigger with a more powerful engine, but so is the F-150 and I can get a comparable F-150 for about what I paid for my Tundra, maybe a little cheaper.
Sorry Nissan, but you're way too proud of your truck for me.
The nissan web site likes to make it known that the prices, colors etc are not set in stone yet...I would think they have a good idea by now on how the truck will be priced and options availible.
The crew cab LE I optioned up was over 35k for 4x2 truck on thier site.
I am interested in looking at the Nissan and the new design Ford F-150 too.
I have read the Crew cab will not be avilible till early 2004.
It sounds like a real nice design - but for $35K you can add alot of options to the Ram.
Also Dodge has announced a refresh now for '05 - possibly to narrow the gap in torque or towing?
Quality and Performance are the most important factors - this latest invasion into the full-size trucks looks like a good one.
And I won't feel as guilty driving a Titan as I would even "visiting" a Ford or GM dealer.
These won't hit the lots until December, is that correct?
Or can you place an order prior to that?
I'm willing to pay invoice price, +/- a few %
Our local "price club" (Costco) has a special deal for car purchases - I'm not sure exactly what the details are...
Anyone have any experience with these types of sales?
I am interested in the Titan as a replacement so I went to the website to configure a 2WD King Cab. I was highly disappointed to discover that the option, "Locking Rear Differential" cannot be added in 2WD. Therefore, a normal $280 option on other 2WD trucks turned out to be a $5,500 upgrade to 4WD with extras I didn't want. I contacted Nissan about this, and I have yet to get a response. Our marriage is not starting out so good. What do you think, bowke28 ?
additional note: the specs on the titan say that towing is the same in 2WD or 4WD, and only 200 lbs different from king cab to crew cab. all over 9300 lbs.
as for sticker price, many, MANY people pay sticker price for new products, especially imports. i sold hondas for almost 2 years, and the only ones that are negotiable even today are the accord, civic, and element. everything else went for MSRP+++. nissan is becoming similar. the maxima, murano, 350Z, 350ZR, and quest all sell for at least MSRP, and the upcoming armada and titan will do the same. the 2005 pathfinder will get a complete redesign, debuting in the spring of 2004. we expect this to be similar as well. also keep in mind that after the 2004 F150 debuts, the rebates will be history for awhile, so pricing will be very close.
The problem is: no one in the Nissan org. will explain to me why anti-spin devices are used on 4WD only. If I wanted 4WD, I would look elsewhere.
the titan can be used, and used well for hauling and towing, but nissan isnt building a regular cab, or one with vinyl flooring, or manual trannies, etc...they are after the general contractor that spends 3 hours a day supervising his supervisors, and needs a truck for the boat and mulch at the house. nissan buyers will be more upscale, and usually (no offense anyone) more educated, and less likely to need a "work" truck...hope that made sense.
the audience nissan wants controls 70% of the light pickup market...nissan wants a foothold in there first before moving on.
Locking diffs come into play when your tires are on two different types of surfaces...ice/dry pavement...gravel/pavement...wet/dry. No matter if you have a locker or not, too much throttle and you will spin tires and gain nothing.
"The titan can be used, and used well for hauling and towing, but nissan isn't building a regular cab, or one with vinyl flooring, or manual trannies, etc...they are after the general contractor that spends 3 hours a day supervising his supervisors, and needs a truck for the boat and mulch at the house. Nissan buyers will be more upscale, and usually (no offense anyone) more educated, and less likely to need a "work" truck."
If your psychological persona ASSUMES that a person who drives an older vehicle does so because he or she HAS to...surely has not sharpened the people skills necessary to make a persuasive argument to me. If Nissan is so bold as to only seek clientele who are foolish enough to pay MSRP plus an additional premium to retain the "exclusivity" among its owners, then I will gladly seek elsewhere. If Sam Walton can drive an old F-100 around Bentonville, then I am surely not so egotistical to recognize good value in a domestic offering. There are fourteen (14) other brands that surpass Nissan on the percentage of each brand's vehicles going in for service that needed repairs, according to J.D. Power and Associates survey for 2003. The article may be found at:
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-07-29-carfix_x.htm
Nissan is a good car company. It's just not the "end-all-cure-all".
As for the hydroplaning, that is only one reason I stated for the limited slip. Questioning the pros and cons about justifying limited slip during those few moments of hydroplaning still does not answer my first inquiry about the limited slip option. You did mention that a traction control will be offered. How was I supposed to know? Why can't a company just find out what the customer really wants - instead of offering a bunch of Programmable Logic Control subroutines that will require re-programming downloads in the case of system failures. If you don't know what I mean, just wait and see.