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2013 and Earlier - Mazda6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

kragilankragilan Posts: 6
edited January 2014 in Mazda
I am shopping for a 2003 Mazda 6, and I am living in San Francisco Bay Area. Could any one please give me your newly purchased specs, price, dealer's name and the sale person's name?

Thanks.
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  • I haggled to $400 over invoice and was offered $500 over invoice by a no-haggle place. As of a few weeks ago, most dealers right now are still demanding MSRP. Find a more rural one if that is the case.
  • Kragilan... Like you, I shopped the Accord, Camry, Altima, Saturn L300, and the 6. After driving all five, we narrowed it down to the Accord and the 6.

    I think the 6 has better handling and braking than the others, looks real sporty, and the build quality appears good, but pricing was a bummer. The Accord pricing I got was quite reasonable for an EX-L 4 CYL car -- I got it for the Edmunds/CR invoice. The similarly equipped 6i I was trying to purchase was offered to me for about 700 under MSRP, still nearly three thousand more than the Accord. I called Mazda dealers in the bay area and said if they could match or come within range of the Accord price, I would buy the 6. It was their sale to win or lose but they said they couldn't match the Accord price so it was a no brainer for us -- we took the Accord.

    We love the Accord and are glad we bought it but wish for Mazda's sake they would wake up and smell the coffee: If you are going to design a car to match the competition, you have to match the pricing too, otherwise, you will go down the road of Macintosh computers: great products with pricing that marginalzes itself because the pricing is so high that it only attracts a small percentage of the market (the die-hards).

    Perhaps you will have better luck than I with the 6.

    Michael
  • Heritage Mazda in Bel Air, MD

    Black 6s 5spd MT, Bose, Sport, Cass., sport grille
    MSRP: $23,315, Sale Price: $22,315 w/BJ's Car Buying discount.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I'm a little afraid to ask, but what is the "BJ discount"?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    that's the funniest thing I've seen all day.

    I think BJ's is similar to Costco or Sam's Club. No lipstick required.
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    would you name it BJ's? Isn't that sort of like naming your daughter Barbara Jean?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    a local pizza chain with the same name. Nice looking waitresses.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Posts: 5,092
    For maltb's information...and an attempt to divert this discussion from the direction it is heading.


    http://www.bjs.com/

  • rgrosrgros Posts: 3
    Intend to buy a 6s MT Sport Pkg, Bose. Don't have enough nerve to ask what anyone paid but do any of the Houston area owners know of a dealer that is working around Edmunds TMV pricing. Won't buy for another 30 days so haven't attempted to negotiate, just looking to save some aggravation.
    Every dealer I've spoken to says they are moving them fast (surprise), I've been jumping around just so I can drive the damn thing; but I like U guys don't see any on the road.
  • Wait til the end of the month. I purchase my car in Houston and got (so I think), a pretty good deal. But here's some pointers (posted on another message board).

    This is just a helpful hint to anyone who might be thinking of getting the leather interior in your Mazda6. One of my first concerns when I test drove my first Mazda6 with leather interior was that I didn't feel it was that comfortable or soft. I was pretty set on getting the Mazda6 before the end of the year, but unfortunately the only car that I liked on the lot (Onyx black with beige interior), didn't have leather OR a spoiler (the lip type). Because it was the end of the month (and the new year), the dealer agreed to put leather in it from one of his aftermarket suppliers. Believe me, the quality of this "aftermarket" leather is hands over heels better than the one's that originally come from Mazda. If you've ever sat in a Acura CL, then that is what it feels like.

    So my advice to anyone considering leather is two-fold.

    1) Wait till the end of the month, and

    2) Have the dealer install the leather AFTER the sale, and make sure they don't try to charge you more than what's on the window sticker (even though it is a much better quality leather). Also, ask them to show you their leather samples and "feel" for yourself.

    I guarantee you'll love your Mazda6 even more!

    One more hint:
    Waiting to the very last day to make my decision (of whether to buy the Accord or the Mazda6) probably cost me more than it should have, and yet I still think I got a great deal.

    If you live in Houston, don't buy your vehicle with tint or let them put it on after your sale. I know of someone who does excellent work off of I-45 and Parker who can do it for $90.
    If you live outside of Houston, check around for some window-tinting shops in your area.
  • jhtlagjhtlag Posts: 39
    Greetings; I'm new here but have been very interested in Mazda 6 and have been following the discussions for some time. (What's all this crap about Hondas?) If I were to "buy a car today" this would be the one. I went to the Washington DC auto show and one of the people who represented the display (basically a salesperson from one of the local dealerships) told me that Mazda has requested/required that the dealers hold the price at MSRP for three months. Basically, come back after February if you wanted to deal. This kinda makes sense as you don't want to introduce a new car and start discounting right away: at least start out with some sense of it being a premium car... and, of course, the stocks need to be built up so prices can be maintained while they are still in short supply.) I complained to the guy that I would would gladly pay $1k less than MSRP and he visibly got excited, as in "Come on down and see us in a couple of months, I'm the internet guy, etc." (Pretty dumb on his part as now I know to go lower ;^) Anyway, I'm a patient guy (sheesh, I'm driving an 11 year old Ford Escort (Protege twin!!!) and maybe can wait another couple months.
  • exit56exit56 Posts: 9
    Get off exit 58 of the Long Island Expressway and you'll find a BJ's next to a Hooters. Go figure . . .
  • I used two internet brokers to get hooked up with dealers. I wanted the 6s with no sportpackage.One dealer offered me $600 above invoice for the sportpack car because I was a discount club member. (it was the only s he had). I politely declined. I'm not going to pay for more than I want. The other dealer, When I asked him if he could beat the $600 over, just said no, the sales manager says he must go higher.I wrote back and said, that I went on-line to avoid all the haggling in the first place. And if could not even give a quote to a serious, informed buyer, it was a mistake by Mazda. I'm just the type of demographic they want. Yes it's a nice car, but there are others. I'll go elsehere.
  • voochvooch Posts: 92
    It is a new car and all. $600 on a 6s with *no* options is 3% over invoice or $1100 off the MSRP. Doesn't seem like a horrible deal to me when people elsewhere are paying MSRP. What exactly would you like to pay for it?
  • Buy the car at $600 over. Life's too short to spend time worrying over a few hundred dollars on a $2X,000 car. My question is...has anyone cross-shopped this car with the Saab 9-3? Happy motoring.
  • ruefusruefus Posts: 254
    isn't much more than employees of Ford & Mazda get. I've ordered one on X plan and it's roughly $100 below invoice.

    There's a limit to how much negotiation you can do. $600 over invoice is a great price for a brand new model. If they start selling really well, you may not see that price again for a while.

    And I agree - life is too short to quibble. I think it's fantasy to think you'll get it for invoice, and even if you manage to cut it in half, you're still only talking about $300. What might that $300 in haggling cost you in your relationship with the dealer?

    Profit is not and has NEVER been a dirty word.
  • I didn't walk away. They did. .....Recall, I DID NOT want and the sportpackage (SP). The second dealer who had a 6s without SP received my challenge to beat 600 over, which was offered on the SP by the first dealer. Hell, I would have accepted 599 over or even gone higher (since it should be a lesser priced car). BUT THE GUY WOULDN'T GIVE ME AN OFFER. (Even the first dealer never called me back) In my mind saying that he needs more money means I now must start haggling. I thought the whole point of using one of the on-line services is to simply get their best price (take it or not) and avoid haggling. I'm one of those people who detest that. When I purchased my wife's Santa Fe, I got a call, the dealer gave me a price, and that was it. Maybe my experience is not statistically significant, but I suspect MAZDA is screwing this up. I'm even thinking of the once outrageous idea of looking at a Dodge Intrepid, now that they have 3K off and fall within my price range.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    Is it mazda or one dealer?

    Are there not other dealers to go to? What about CarsDirect?
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    Mazda doesn't have much control over the dealers that decide to be idiots. I would just go to another dealer.
  • ruefusruefus Posts: 254
    Mazda isn't screwing around with the pricing. No way. In many ways, it isn't up to them anymore. The DEALER owns the car now. Selling price for all intents and purposes is at the dealer's discretion.

    MSRP is just that - SUGGESTED retail pricing.
  • I did all my research here and KBB.com. I went to one dealer and they told me the price would be MSRP on the 6s w/sport package, automatic, moonroof, leather, Bose, side airbags/side air curtains, wheel locks, and the comfort package. I walked out. I went to another dealer and told them I would not pay MSRP and they asked what do I want to pay. I told them $500 over invoice. They said $1000 I said $750. But they wouldn't waiver. So I put a deposit on the car to hold it. Then I called where a friend of mine had just purchased a Tribute. I spoke with that salesman she had dealt with and told him I had test driven the car and that I had a written quote for $500 over invoice. He said he would match it. So I went there Saturday and my Steel Gray 6s should arrive in a week to ten days. If you are up front with the dealer they will usually accommodate you. $500 over invoice benefits us both, they still make a profit and have a customer who for one is happy and two will recomend them to friends.
  • Message #3 of this forum perfectly addresses the fatal problem with the 6. Mazda dealers are dealing, but Accord dealers are dealing MORE. A lot more. It's gonna kill the 6. User 'mcadrecha' literally saved thousands over the 6 with his Accord purchase.........let's face it: if the 6 is more expensive than the Accord, even by a few hundred bucks, people will buy the Accord. End of story.
  • I bought my Mazda 6, yesterday. This is what I got...White Mazda6, V6, Auto, Sport Pack., black Leather, Comfort Pack, Sunroof, Mirror W/ Homelink, Cargo Net, and Wheel Locks. I wanted the Bose system as well but they could not find one to purchase now. Most dealers here in Houston were not discounting the 6's except for two. One was taking 2% off of MSRP (LOL) and the other was 3% over invoice (not bad)considering. I went down to the dealer and he showed me the invoice price and it was within a few dollars of what Edmunds said it was. This was it, no advertising fees, no dealer prep charges. To top that off everyone gets a free tank of gas and every other oil change is free. Don't know what the price is for the oil change I have to pay for yet but will let you know. The dealer is Jeff Hass Mazda.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
  • yousteryouster Posts: 10
    May I ask what is the manufacturer's recommended oil change interval? Every 5000 miles or 7500?
  • dinu01dinu01 Posts: 2,586
    Mazda Canada says 8.000kmn - 5.000 miles for all their vehicles.

    I do it every 4.000kms - 2.500 miles in my PRO.

    Dinu
  • fjb323fjb323 Posts: 20
    1, If you are happy with $500.00 or $600.00 or whatever over invoice BUY IT!. I did have a doctor on a Millennia Lease that had gone to 6 or 7 dealers and wrote a 36 month lease with me only because he wanted to know that he saved a dollar a month. This is not being either cost effective or logical.
    2, A word of caution as to postings in the "What did you pay?" forums, specifically Honda and Mazda, I've seen figures that were pure nonsense, $2,000.00 and $3,000.00 behind invoice on units that were 2003 and hard to find OR that have not even been released by the manufacturer.
    fjb
  • Just wondering...anyone who qualifies for a Supplier (or Employee) Discount, ever have the dealer refuse to participate? I was talking to a guy at work whose wife bought a Protege5 or whatever, last year. He said they went to a dealer about 45 minutes away because the local dealer refused to honor the Supplier Discount price because the car was so new. So they went to another dealer and THEY honored the discount. Anyone else had this happen?
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,329
    However, all the Mazda dealers in my area do (for instance, they all advertise being S-plan participants, but the area is chock full of people who qualify through their employers). Competition helps. :)
  • ameen6ameen6 Posts: 16
    I got a FULLY loaded Lapis Blue V6 with Manual Transmission. I purchased it from John Hine Mazda in San Diego (great dealership). They had a no haggle discount of $1,375 and with my graduate student discount I ended up paying $23,570 which is about $500 over invoice, MSRP is $25,445.
  • CarsDirect.com Display Price: $21,191.
    Local dealer says he would find the car for the above price. Options selected below:
     Engine: 2.3L DOHC 16-Valve 4-Cylinder w/VVT
     Transmission: 5-Speed Manual w/Overdrive
     Leather Seat Upholstery
     Comfort Package
     Premium Package
     Sport Package
     Power Moonroof
  • Just got my car today. I paid $500 over invoice and I am in SoCAL. Used e-mail to negotiate the price between dealers. Watch our fo dealers claiming to have the car you want, only to find out they try to dealer trade once you are serious to get the car. Most dealers won't trade their 6's to another dealer. Use the MazdaUS website to locate inventory at several dealers. Most of the dealers have an online department that you can e-mail. Great way to buy a car even though they tried to low ball my trade-in. Use the Kelley Blue book site to determine what you should get. I had a 96 Honda Civic EX to trade-in, Kelly listed trade-in between $3400 to $4200. Got several dealers to agree on the $500 over invoice but the bidding war was over the trade in. Settle for $4000. Thought I got a good deal, especially with more people wanting the car, dealers will start getting more money for the car. Don't wait, price may escalate.
  • crv16crv16 Posts: 205
    Local dealer (Boston) is selling 6's for $3,000 off sticker, not a good sign, especially since it's only been out a couple months.

    Quirk Mazda
  • I am picking up my Mazda6 s tomorrow. MSRP $25,825 Invoice $23,406. Paying $23,440 including $500 Mazda rebate from Chicago auto show. Purchased at Wilkins Mazda in Villa Park. Ask for Marty. Great guy and very helpful. Can't wait to zoom-zoom. I have been researching vehicles for 3 months and test drove many. Almost pulled the trigger on ans Audi A-4 for $29,000 but decided to go with the 6 since I rated them mostly the same and saved $5600. Oh, what a feelin. (OOPS, WRONG AD)
  • Ordered 7 weeks ago using the E-Plan pricing (our company insures Ford). Steel Grey Metallic Mazda6s, Auto, Sport Pack., black Leather, Comfort Pack, Power Moonroof, Mirror W/ Homelink, Cargo Net, Side air bags/curtains, ULEV emissions equipment, Wheel Locks and Bose sound system. MSRP was 26,800 and Dealer said it should be around 23,500-23,800. The E Plan pricing will be on the sticker when it come in.

    Not all dealers were too interested in accepting preferred pricing. I had to go to Connecticut (I live in Mass.) to get it. I went to Modern Motors in Thomaston, CT. They were more than willing to offer this pricing. They also offered to match any competing loan APR. I went to Modern Motors as they are also a President's Club dealership for Mazda.

    I also called Mazda headquarters about the preferred pricing and was told, "at this time it is up to the individual dealerships to decide whether or not they will accept preferred pricing".
  • Not everyone will go to an Accord, all things being equal with price.

    In fact, it isn't even on my list because of the hideously configured tailights. And I know more than a few people who agree.

    The funny thing is that the tailights on the coupe look great. Although they'll sell tons, they could have had more if they used the lights from the coupe. Honda blew it on this one, IMO
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    Basing a car buying decision on taillight design is a lot easier than trying to determine what the best value is. LOL. I was going to buy a Maz6 until I found out I couldn't get one equipped like I wanted without $3000 worth of stuff I didn't want. I how have an Accord EX with ugly tail lights but it has ABS, side airbags, and a moon roof. Maz may have got the taillights right but they sure screwed up the equipment bundles.

    Both the I4 and V6 Accords have enough go power to show taillights to their Maz6 I4 and V6 counterparts. So they may even start to grow on you after a while?
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    how much did you pay for your 6?

    oh sorry, wrong forum.
  • If you can live with the lights, that's fine. It's all subjective, right? I'm just saying I wouldn't.

    As far as the bundling, I agree it could have been handled better, but I would be fine with the package choices as presented.

    I'm still at least 6 months away from purchase, and if the 6s sport is still rare and pricey, I'll probably look at the Altima SE
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    With 6 months to go you may be able to get the car you want without a lot of extras you don't want. The wife liked the 6 because it felt like a smaller car to her but we bounced on the option bundles.

    I may be taillight challenged since my other car is an IS300.
  • skyrayskyray Posts: 156
    A lot of you are attributing to Mazda what is actually a problem with the dealers, not the manufacturer.

    And on-topic, I paid $500 over invoice, which I feel is eminently fair for such a new car, particularly since I'm getting the more popular 6s version. I did have to shop around to find that deal. I was actually willing to pay a bit more than that -- a dealer close to me offered $1,000 off retail, which was $777 over invoice. But they couldn't get the car in as quickly as I needed it, so I'm driving farther and getting a better deal.
  • I hear that Mazda is disentangling the options web this spring, and beginning in April many more (if not all) of the options and packages can be selected on a stand-alone basis. This is being done in response to consumer feedback, so apparently Mazda is listening.
  • Just ordered my Redfire Metallic 6s w/ Sport Package, Bose, Auto-Dimming Mirror & Homelink, Sport Grille, and Chrome fuel door for an out the door price of 23,300. That is with a $500 graduate incentive and an addition of 6% sales tax in Florida and $175 for the tag. Taking delivery before the end of March.
  • jcesmomjcesmom Posts: 1
    Just bought a basic 6i silver. New baby=no options. Still, it drove well, and I only paid $16500 for it. I read about the Altimas interior falling apart before 10K miles, so nixed it off the 'buy' list (see Popular Mechanics long term road tests). Picking up on Wednesday. I've also got a '98 626 which has been good to me so far, nothing major except the a/c belt & tensioner. Previous car: '93 Ford Probe w/170K on original clutch (it's being traded for the 6i). I'm getting rid of it only because it needs another catalytic converter to pass emissions. Otherwise, it'd still be going.
  • maltbmaltb Posts: 3,572
    A/T or M/T? If it's a manual, I'd say you have impeccable taste! I've got about 6,500 miles on my clone of your car and still love it.
  • mazda6sammazda6sam Posts: 20
    Paid $17,700, $100 over invoice. Could've gone down a few hundred more but I was given a great deal on my trade. So far, I love this car. I've alread looked at some 16x7 Motegi race wheels and window tinting. This thing is awesome!!
  • panamaltd2panamaltd2 Posts: 162
    What other packages do I have to silect in order to get a 6i with Manual and the sport package? Can i just get the sport package alone? This is very frusterating. Thanks!
  • prayerforprayerfor Posts: 161
    panama --

    It's common that when a new model is launched, the manufacturer cranks out only a limited number of more desireable option combinations to get things up and running faster. I read someplace that Mazda is easing the restrictions on package combinations beginning with April production. After that time you will have much more latitude to configure the car just as you want it.
  • skyrayskyray Posts: 156
    Note that the web page is currently screwed up, so the option combos it insists on aren't necessarily valid. Your best bet is to actually check with a dealer.
  • cgam99cgam99 Posts: 2
    Just ordered a 6s, V6 M/T, Sport Package, Comfort, Bose, dimming mirror w/ Homelink, wheel locks. MSRP = $26,400, Invoice = $24,000. Paid $24,400. Bought in NW Houston.
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