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  • mdamickmdamick Member Posts: 277
    I get my fuel from a number of stations around the area. In SD, the Cetane rating is not posted on the pump, you get whatever they put in the tanks. Have found that WY diesel does make it run better, tried once, but a 90 mile trip for fuel isn't practical.
    I actually have to drive 1/2 mile down hill to get to the main road and the transmission draining is not a problem. A light foot on the gas does not seem to make any difference. In fact, if I get on it a little I can drive past the fade but traffic does not always make it possible.
  • dharmadoggiedharmadoggie Member Posts: 1
    I've been reading the forum for a few weeks and I can't really tell if anybody who has or had the overheating problem actually got it fixed. It would be enlightening to hear from just one person who found a fix - and knew what fixed it.

    Thank you from a possible future CRD owner.
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    This is a cliff-hanger situation and the commercial is brought to you by DC...
  • w6373w6373 Member Posts: 6
    After several attempts to repair the overheating problem, my dealer traded me out of the Liberty for a Cummings diesel. Most of the sales people are not selling the CRD's, they told me there are too many problems with them.
  • rkernbobrkernbob Member Posts: 11
    I have had my Liberty CRD since July and I have been loving it up until now...

    At 4k miles I decided to change the oil. After changing it ($13 for the filter and $50 for the oil!!). I noticed a leak coming from the turbocharger. It looked to me to be coming from the oil drain tube gasket. So I took it in to the dealership and they told me that the oil was going past a seal in the turbo and coming out past the compressor wheel. So they had to replace the turbo... I don't drive my CRD crazy and I make sure to let the turbo cool before I shutdown every time. I sure hope this was a production issue (maybe not enough oil in the bearing housing when assembled?). Anybody else had this problem?

    So after I got it back, (took a few days to order the turbo and then a few more to order studs for the exh manifold when the broke the old ones taking the bad turbo off) I got a check engine light after about 60 miles... The diesel mechanic at my dealership was already gone for the day so I took a look around to see what he might have missed... Found a wire that was not connected. After fishing around a while, I found a sensor under the coolant reservoir tank. He must not have plugged it in all the way and it worked itself loose. But I still had to take it back to have them clear the fault.

    While trying to find where this wire was supposed to be attached I noticed a few odd things under the engine cover. There was a hose clamp wedged between the injector and valve cover along with a rubber band. I talked to the dealer about it and they didn't take any hose clamps off that looked like the one that was there. So I guess VM Motori or DCx decided to leave me a little present. Pretty sloppy work I think.

    Now a few days later... My check engine light comes on again. Once again my diesel mechanic was not around, but they were able to check the code for me at the dealership. It was a pressure switch for the transmission. The thing slips like crazy and jerks around a lot... So it is in the shop now and I'm really not looking forward to getting it back and finding the next problem.

    This is very unfortunate, there isn't any other vehicle like this on the market and I love the way it drives...
  • f250sd73f250sd73 Member Posts: 12
    Well my wife really liked the way it drives. So do I. Plenty of power, rides nice, handles great. It's just as roomy as our Land Rover, but smaller on the outside. I hope we don't have any of the problems discussed here. We bought an extended warranty with oil changes. Mobile 1 is EXPENSIVE. I trided the 4wd on a steep rutted out gravel hill. I couldn't get enough traction to climb it. If you plan on off road get the trac loc option. Also the stock tires are more for road than dirt. I plan on adding a K&N air filter at the first oil change. My F250 SD 7.3TD 4WD auto Ext Cab Long Bed can get 20.1 MPG on the highway. This thing weighs over 7000lbs. This jeep better get 26 or better after it's broke in.

    In comparision to other SUV's the Jeep is ONE of a Kind. I read some articles that stated the engine sounds like an old 1980 mercedes diesel. Who ever wrote that needs thier hearing checked. I tricked my friend into thinking the engine have a ticking valve. That's how quite it is when idling. inside you can barley hear it.
  • diesel4diesel4 Member Posts: 1
    So glad to hear someone else is having this problem. Bought mine in July 600 miles same problem as yours. Took to dealer fixed in about an hour. "computer problem". Yesterday at about 1400 miles same problem. Had to have it towed both times. They said there was a service bulletin about this. First step was to "reboot" now they are "still running diagnosis". It is NOT your gas!! I love my jeep. Luckily I was in town for both "failures". Hope they get it fixed.
  • bullheadbullhead Member Posts: 125
    diesel4...

    Did you try the fuel/water separator pump before you got it towed? Just checking. Thanks.
  • f250sd73f250sd73 Member Posts: 12
    For $1795 I'm supposed to get oil changes for 70k miles, plus full coverage bumper to bumber except maintence items.

    Now if you read the Service Contract by Daimler Chrysler brochure. The MaxCare plan has optins for scheduled maintenance care. In fine print it states deisels are excluded.

    Any thoughts on this?
  • hmartini1hmartini1 Member Posts: 11
    I have had my CRD for about 4 months now and have just over 4500 miles on it. I live in Las Vegas NV and it does get hot. I noticed while driving to Los Angeles and going up a steep grade it started overheating and I had to shut off the air to get it to cool back down. This should not happen especially to a new vehicle.

    I got to my destination (Frasier Park CA. 4x4 trail) and the little Liberty performed great on the trail. When I had completed most of it one of the Jeeps got hung up on a rock and after helping him off, I got back into the Liberty and put it in drive and it wouldn't move. I got towed the rest of the way out by a Toyota (how embarrassing). I had reverse and a little bit of first and third as long as I didn't go over 1700 rpm and the grade was not too steep. Anyway to make a long story short, a pump and seals need to be replaced in the trans. I was told these parts are back ordered and it may be up to 10 days before they come in. They did provide me a rental car for 5 of the 10 days, I guess I am on my own after the 5 days. Has anyone else had a trans problem? Other than that I love it. I just wish they offered a manual trans when I purchased mine.
  • f250sd73f250sd73 Member Posts: 12
    In jeepforums.com there is another that tows a trailer and fried the tranny TC. So you're not the only one. My thoughts are that we need to relocate the trany cooler with a larger one if off roading or towing.
  • hmartini1hmartini1 Member Posts: 11
    I purchased the extended warranty with the oil changes and your right, when I brought it in for the first oil change, I was only offered their non-synthetic oil and only five quarts. I stated I purchased the oil changes with Mobile One synthetic oil. Lucky for me the sales associate remembered the transaction and put a notation in the computer to allow me the oil changes, which includes six quarts of Mobile one. I have to say, the sales staff at this dealer has bent over backwards to take care of me.
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    I tried the K&N filter and came to the following conclusion:
    -Over here it's worth 3 times the cost of the original canadian made one.
    -The gain over turbo lag at low revs is true, but the tranny is programmed to keep the converter open when the gain is there. Result is a higher fuel consumption.
    -Since the turbo stops filling the intake manifold when the pressure is reached, there is no interest to have a particular make at this point.
    -The diesel engine breathes at it's full capacity all the time. K&N in this case will need cleaning more frequently than for a gasser.
    -Finally the particule size trapped by the original filter may be smaller since for dirt track racing people use other filters than the K&N.
    I have one in my garage and keep it for the winter when there is no sand or pollen flying around.
  • tired_old_davetired_old_dave Member Posts: 710
    Do you use Diesel Kleen(DK) or Diesel Fuel Supplement(DFS)?
    I'm asking because of the switch to DFS for winter or a trip back up north.

    Caribou1 talked about the throttle by wire, the use of a potentiometer. It could have a dead spot inside but shouldn't it always be there hot or cold. I can't add anything else.
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    I think what mdamick describes as a miss (dead spot) when the engine is cold is related to the transmission, at least on my truck. I avoid this by changing gear selection or lifting my foot off the accelerator for a second to release the converter. If you get the chance to drive a manual tranny on a common rail diesel this 'dead spot' is easier to detect.
    Driving uphill at 25 mph with cargo is when I feel it most. To my opinion the 3rd gear is a bit too long and the 4th too short. In an ideal (flat) world this engine should always run at 2000 rpm.
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    I have had conversations with one or two local transmission shops. Both have told me that the five speed auto on the Jeep is very similar if not the same as the five speed auto put i ;) n the full size Dodge trucks. Both have told me that there is an overheating issue with this transmission and that both recommend adding an additional trans cooler whether you tow or not.

    I will be doing this in the next few months. I just need to figure out where to put it. There is no room behind the grill as everything is well packed in there. There is space between the intercooler and the radiator, about 1-1/2 inches, so I might put it in there. :blush:
  • bigpapabigpapa Member Posts: 30
    This past Thursday I took my jeep in for a few problems that I found while doing my under the hood inspection and my jeep has 2100 miles on it. The problems that I took it in for was: 1) A deep cut embedded in my A/C line due to my intercooler hose clamp rubbing against it. I had to move the hose clamp before futher indentation or rupture were to take place. 2) My Temp monitor would stay at a specific temp. for about 20 min. before the actual temp would be displayed. 3) A pool of dried oil where the hose connects to my oil separator. I wiped my finger under the connection which was dripping oil. 4) Noticed that my hose clamp was embedded into my fuel line where it connects to my fuel filter.

    I understand that I have a diesel and all but what the dealer told me after I brought it in was stunning but want to make sure if anybody else has encountered these problems. I asked the service manager if I could speak to the technician before he starts or after he is finished on my truck. Her response to that was " sorry sir, we do not let our technicians speak to the customers". That's all fine and dandy.

    Once I received a call back, the service manager explained this to me and after having my jeep in for 2 days nothing was done to it. She explained to me that the supposed problems with my AC line was that it wasn't deep enough and should be ok. The temp monitor doesn't read a temp. until the vehicle reaches approx. 50mph. The pool of dried oil that I found, the mechanic called it as to be "NORMAL" and that it is not an oil leak, it is nearly a seepage. And the oily soot I found around my hose clamp that leads to my fuel filter as the mechanic stated again as it being "NORMAL".

    I just can't understand that oil dripping onto my motor is "normal" or a possible fuel leak to be "normal". And as far as the temp, you mean to tell me that on a 30mph speed limit road, I have to speed to 50mph so I can see how hot or cold it is outside. Give me a break!! Also a hole that was embedded into my A/C line that was caused by them. I prevented from the line to rupture but all I get is, sorry it didn't go through all the way so you're fine.
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  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    Sounds like you have a poopy dealer, although there are many dealers that do not like customers to speak with the technicians.

    As for the temperature gauge, I assume you are referring to the one that is above the rearview mirror. According to the owner's manual, any speed over 20 mph :) for several minutes is what will cause the reading to change. I think the 50 mph is for resetting the tire pressure monitoring system after a tire repair or replacement.

    On Sunday, I went through the engine compartment with a fine tooth comb. I snugged down several clamps and repositioned several others. I checked all the fuel system connections and found them to be bone dry. Not even a haze. If it is really hot outside and I have been driving my CRD, I get an occasional whiff of diesel fuel odor from under the hood. So, far, I have not been able to find anything. There are np puddles, leaks that I can find.

    Outside of that, it runs great. :)
  • willysjeepwillysjeep Member Posts: 107
    I asked the service manager if I could speak to the technician before he starts or after he is finished on my truck. Her response to that was " sorry sir, we do not let our technicians speak to the customers". That's all fine and dandy.

    All that I have had done is the first oil change. The service technicians were helpful and courteous. After the service I was called by the shop and asked what I thought of the service. I told the caller about the good help and that it was appreciated. The caller said that he would tell the service manager. I told the caller to tell the technicians themselves and the caller said he would.

    I forgot to bring the high priced Mobil One Oil. The service personnel explained that there would be cost over and above their normal cost due to the use of this expensive oil. After the oil change, the 1/2 quart excess was given to me which I may use on future oil changes.

    For future oil changes, I will most likely go back to doing it myself. The dealer told me that all I had to do to retain the warranty was to keep receipts and records.

    I think because my dealer is in a lower populated area that customer appreciation may be higher.

    The Jeep is still running well. I don't have one of those consoles that give you automatic mileage. I checked my mileage during a recent run up North and was getting in the high twenties. (miles per gallon) No overheating yet.

    After reading the above posts, I'm going to check under my hood for leaks and signs of abrasions. This sounds like a distinct possibility and thanks for pointing it out.

    Has anyone had a problem with knocking into the oil filter on dirt roads? Has anyone done a relocation to avoid it being knocked into? I could see hitting a rock in the middle of a high rut road and knocking that thing off. Bad News.
  • mdamickmdamick Member Posts: 277
    I am using the supplement. I have been using it in my Cummins for years-year around.
    I thought about a dead spot on the pot also-but you are right it should always be there.
    I don't think it is a transmission issue, you can hear and feel then engine drop out. The mechanic has also driven it and confirmed the problem but they have yet to come up with a fix.
    I just put 1000 miles on it and it runs on the interstate like a dream.
  • mdamickmdamick Member Posts: 277
    I was talking to the dealer mechanic and he told me that a couple had slid off a gravel road and taken out the oil filter. Several mile walk back to the main road.
    This is definintely a design defect-anything you scrape along the bottom could take it out.
    I have thought about relocating it rather than hiding it.
  • spetespete Member Posts: 73
    Sounds a lot like the dealer I "was" going to - I took the advise I recieved at this forum and went to a different service department and was amazed at the different attitude that they took - I had not purchased my CRD at this dealer yet they went out of their way to make sure all problems were taken care of - They now will get all of my business even though I have to drive twice a far. My recommendation is to minimize your frustration and try a different dealership. Nor being able to talk to a technician is riduculous! ( I was told at the first service dept. that the reason my brakes were locking up was because I had put Amzoil in my crankcase!)
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    If more people did what you and I have done, namely go somewhere else for service, those dealers who lose business might get a wake up call.

    Is the engine running any differently with the Amsoil 5W-40? I like the specs on it better than the equivalent Mobil 1 product.
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    The oil filter location is rather interesting. In one way it is good, namely easy access and easy service. On the other hand, bad for those of you who go off road. I can see it being a problem on road, especially if something like a large piece if debris hits it. I may consider getting a skid plate just for that reason alone.
  • allnighterallnighter Member Posts: 3
    Does NE1 know if the 2006 model has incorporated any improvements to the driveability and/or overheating issues? I'm very interested in buying a CRD, but don't want to lay out a bunch of $$$ and have the issues I've been reading about here. My local dealer has several '05 CRD's on his lot that are not moving. I'm an automotive engineer and misplaced clamps cutting into hoses is just poor assembly control. Overheating on grades could be a component design or selection issue. DCX, get these cleaned up and put an incentive on them and I'll part with some $$$.
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    The reason why I thought it could be a transmission issue is because both engine and transmission are under the (same) computer control. The PCM can apparently pilot the engine if the transmission requires a slow-down to shift or manage something else. I would really like to access the controller logic of this truck. Most problems could be better understood and explained to non technical people.
  • datamandataman Member Posts: 12
    My service manager said that a TSB is being released related to the overheating problem, it should be available within 30 days.
  • cato42cato42 Member Posts: 2
    Howdy, all. :) A newcomer to the forum, I've been reviewing the posts here trying to get a handle on whether or not I'd like to try the Liberty CRD. I love the idea, sure 'nuff, but don't know enough about this vehicle/engine yet to be sure. The one issue I'm most concerned about and which I haven't gotten a handle on yet is this overheating problem. Without belaboring things, can someone knowledgeable out there give a brief synopsis of the problem? If so, I'd be much obliged. Thanks. :D
  • purduealum91purduealum91 Member Posts: 285
    I had a VW Golf TDI and loved it. If only VW would come out with a 4WD AFFORDABLE TDI, Id be all over it. Had ZERO problems with the TDI. Come on DC, sort this out.
  • tired_old_davetired_old_dave Member Posts: 710
    Maybe someone is listening. The remaining auto makers are joining consortiums like crazy. Maybe DC should give their Italian stock back to Penske and sleep with VW. I test drove a TDI a year or two ago, but my tired old back can't bend too easily anymore, hence the CRD.
    But the way it's going, webchat two years ago about Hyundai the next value leader, before any VW or VW/DC happens, we may be buying Chinese labels with engineering from ...
  • 4kster4kster Member Posts: 49
    Here is a list of ALL of the issues (not just overheating) that I can remember being posted on this site:

    1) Overheating that seems to be related to issues with the fan clutch, dragging brakes and maybe but not likely the transmission. Problem may be compounded by obstinate or clueless dealers. Not sure if the problem has been resolved by DC yet.

    2) Jerking or surging at specific speeds such as 55 to 60 MPH usually after a pull such as an onramp to highway speeds. Seems to be cured by reflashing the computer in most cases. May be related to fuel in other cases. Problem reported as light to severe and engine actually quit in one or more cases.

    3) A rattling or clunking when backing up or out of a garage first thing in the morning. May be related to misplaced exhaust brackets or sticking/vibrating rear brakes.

    4) Factory Good Year tires are said to be cheesy. Poor wet traction and less than optimal snow traction are indicated by some posters.

    5) Steering is a little clumsy or unresponsive when going straight on the highway. Other posts (winter2) and my experience is that this issue is dramatically reduced or eliminated by keeping the tires 2 - 3 lbs over factory specification. 35 to 36 PSI also improves fuel economy without sacrificing ride.

    6) Oil filter is in exposed location. We drive a lot off pavement on rough and steep roads. Just knowing it’s exposed and keeping an eye on the road for rocks, etc that could potentially destroy the filter is enough for all BUT the serious off-roaders (or going off road accidentally).

    7) Some complained about hard seats. We like the hard seats. This is something anyone can determine for themselves during a test drive.

    8) Wires, hoses and clamps may be positioned incorrectly. Problem ranges from serious to not so serious. Easily curable by a good DIYer or an average mechanic.

    9) Oil gets black very quickly. This is perfectly normal for diesels. Required oil is expensive but oil change interval is longer than normally recommended for gasoline engines.

    10) Maybe a bad EGR pump on one post.

    Now for the positives:

    In my opinion, no other vehicle in it’s price range sold in the US has the unique combination of capabilities of the Liberty CRD. It easily tows 5,000+ lbs, gets 27 to 30 MPG on the highway and weighs 4,300 lbs empty. We usually weigh in at 4,800 lbs minimum when we hit the road and we get 29 to 30 MPG driving 65 MPH (66.7 MPH on GPS). Diesel engine has a very nice diesel sound at light pedal and is very quiet and smooth at highway speeds while climbing steep grades barely depressing the pedal. Oh, and it has real full time and part time (with low range) 4WD.

    If you are a diesel person you will absolutely love this vehicle. You might want to wait a little while until DC works out all the issues.
  • mdamickmdamick Member Posts: 277
    I had not thought about the PCM coordinating engine and transmission being the issue.
    I would love to get my hands on a programming breakdown myself. Better yet, a real time logging of various controls would give us a much better handle on what is happening and when. There is a diagnostic program called Autotap which ties into the OBD port and does exactly that. I was thinking of purchasing it to build a custom gauge set, but your post makes me think I should get it for the datalogging. It would make a conversation with the mechanic or DC much more useful if I had data to back up some things.
  • tired_old_davetired_old_dave Member Posts: 710
    Skidplates-this has been driving me crazy since the February purchase. Yes it is very convenient to change the oil but is is very convenient to be damaged.

    Aside, in DFW,TX , you name we have seen it on the highway. Furniture, refrigerators, dryers, 2x4's 4x4's, roofing, roofing nails, pipes. Throw it in the pickup-it's okay.

    Someone posted about the skidplate that almost protects the oil filter. I believe I asked a follow up but don't remember a response. Lost posts 1/4" plate skids in hundred of pounds.

    The DC gasser transmission plate is part number 52128925-AC about $25

    I may be forced to find a shop to custom make a HD (plate)one with a provision for oil changes or a HD sheetmetal that can be taken on and off. DC uses folds on the sheetmetal for strength from lightness for theirs.

    Again, if anyone would like to share information (part numbers) I'm listening.
  • n3qikn3qik Member Posts: 6
    10) Maybe a bad EGR pump on one post.

    Thats me. Just got the new one on yesterday. Drives like day one off the lot. I got to see the old EGR valve. For only 5100 miles on it, it was pretty carbond up. I hope when ULS diesel fuel is here, this will not happen again.
  • bcnailbcnail Member Posts: 10
    Well, I'm nearing 8000 miles on my CRD, the dealer said that is about the point a diesel engine should be "broken in." :) Besides the engine light, which is on all the time (the parts to repair the problems should be in soone) the car has been belching black smoke anytime I accelerate. When I pull away from stop signs I can see a cloud of black smoke obsuring the view of the cars behind me. Is this normal? :confuse:
  • gonedieselgonediesel Member Posts: 7
    4kster, nice synopsis. There also have been posts of overheating transmission, leaking transmissions, and catastrophic transmission failure. I would be an example of these. My guess and this is only a guess. The problem is either a faulty torque converter or trans programming too finicky and constantly wanting to downshift and then having to up shift when towing. Even keeping it out of overdrive the vehicle will shift up and down. My passat TDI will do the same when towing. Nice thing with the passat is I have the triptronic to do manual shifting. The CRD needs something like this to lock it in 4th or even 3rd when needed and not allow it to change gears and work the torq converter so much. All this shifting increases the temp of the transmission. I have pulled over and took a look at the transfluid level when it started to act up while towing a 1500lb trailer. The fluid level was way way way over the full when warmed up mark. I have the correct amount of fluid since I check it regularly when towing. Not long after that I started to get the "Trans Temp" light. Of course the dealsership could never reproduce the problem since they never take it out on the road and just drive it around the block for a few minutes. The two times I brought it in and told them it takes at least 20-30 miles of driving to get the tranny warmed up the point the problem starts to act up, they only drove it less than 10 miles each time. I checked the odometer before and after droppoff. It is hard to get the dealerships to take the time and diagnose the overheating (trans or engine). I guess, they do not want a tech to spend the time driving around when the tech could be doing something else around the shop. D/C is doing a real good job at bringing the diesels back. If people are not sour from the 70-80s diesels then they will with be very sour with the CRD. :lemon:
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    The early Passat TDI (110 HP) did not have the tiptronic at the time and was permanently shifting to a point where it was a painful experience to drive one and keep up a conversation. Then you got the 130 HP with tiptronic that was ok for driving fast because you would instinctively never stay at the same speed in the low gear. The Jeep due to it's mass is still in the first category because it's geared to go too fast, or too slow. You fry the transmission when driving 'in between'. I think you have to adapt your driving to this truck. I don't drive according to speed limits, I reduce my speed to the point when the converter stops slipping.
    Here are a few examples:
    School zones are limited to 20 mph, so the engine is in 2nd around 2000 rpm.
    City driving is 30 mph, that's 3rd gear 1800 rpm.
    City limits is 35 mph, that's 3rd gear 2000 rpm.
    Country roads is 56 mph, that's 4th gear slipping back and forth into 5th.
    Highway is between 69 and 80 mph and this time the converter is finally closed.
    We get flashed by radars everywhere if we drive above speed limits. This adds to a lot of noise and unnecessary fuel consumption to obey to traffic rules and pollution regulations. Most of these poor engine running conditions could be solved by having different gear ratios in 3rd and 4th. My wife would also stop telling me to go faster because we are being taken over by most of the traffic :shades:
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    Black smoke as you describe it is not normal. The new diesels are pretty clean and make almost no visible smoke.
  • bigpapabigpapa Member Posts: 30
    Mine smokes pretty bad as well. On the highway when barely accelerate, I find people behind me trying to swerve to get out of the way from the big black fog.
  • caribou1caribou1 Member Posts: 1,354
    One puff is ok, a continuous emission is the symptom of the EGR that stuck open. This can be a mechanical defect or again the PCM playing tricks on you :D
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    I am wondering how much of this smoking issue is really a mechanical or controller failure. I am wondering how much of this is related to fuel quality. In europe the standards for motor fuels exceed what is required here in the U.S., so with that in mind, could the higher sulfur levels be raising all sorts of problems? Also, you have mentioned that some biodiesel is being mixed in with the dinodiesel. Biodiesel does have some cleaning properties. So could the EGR be failing because of poor fuel quality? :confuse:
  • winter2winter2 Member Posts: 1,801
    If you are dissatisfied with the way the dealer is handling the issue, go elsewhere. It looks like there is a problem here and it is not being dealt with in a satisfactory manner. If the dealer will not do what it takes to duplicate the issue, go elsewhere. I am sure they are not the only Jeep dealer in your area.
  • tired_old_davetired_old_dave Member Posts: 710
    Has anyone bought/used the trans skid plate that I mentioned earlier. I got that part number from lost. I'm thinking of adding it and having someone bend/weld an additional piece to it to fully protect the oil filter.

    I noticed that back in june a lost poster had his 4x4 linkage break too. My parts are in for that but the skid plate is not available in the Dallas warehouse.
  • pttrilliumpttrillium Member Posts: 62
    Mine is supposed to have a block heater according to the window sticker. I can't find the plug in cord. Anyone know where it is located?
  • europasusaneuropasusan Member Posts: 4
    I've had 2 EGR valves replaced now within 6 months of having the vehicle... just got the second one. I'm concerned that this will be a routine item of replacement in my CRD. Each time it required the car to be out of service 3 days: diagnosis the problem, then getting the part and replacing it.
  • bigpapabigpapa Member Posts: 30
    Your cord SHOULD be located on the drivers side of the motor. I didn't notice mine until I took off my engine cover to see it. Simply unscrew your yellow oil cap and set it aside. Becareful by not letting anything fall into the opening. Lift up on your engine cover starting with the front then the back. Look on the drivers side of the motor and it should be coiled up
  • cu1981cu1981 Member Posts: 13
    My CRD has 1400 and a build date of June. I have not seen any smoak at all which surprises me. You mention an EGR valve... What is that and is it something that begins to function less efficiently after some miles which causes the smoak. Is there something I should be doing to provent the EGR from not working propoerly. Mine is used for normal driving.
  • gonedieselgonediesel Member Posts: 7
    Winter, it is about 300+ miles to the next dealership and the tranny is blown. If there was something closer and I if really thought it would help solve these problems, trustme I'd be there in a heartbeat. But really, after reading all the posts in this and other threads, it is not just a problem with one or two dealerships but a problem with the vehicle and D/C. Just how many posts in this long thread has someone mentioned "could not be duplicated." I can get in the vehicle and drive for about 20-30 minutes and duplicate most of the problems I have had. The engine overheating is tricky though. Anyway, I have had my vehicle at two different dealerships and the experience has been the same. The problem could not be duplicated and therefor there is no problem. I am not saying the dealerships completely suck either. It is just aggravating that our vehicle can not monitor its self and provide info to the techs working on them and it would be nice that the techs are given the time to properly diagnose the problems. It just seems crazy that some people have had to record overheating with video cameras to convince the dealerships of a problem. My VWs can practically tell me how much I ate and crapped on a daily basis when I plug in and use a scan tool. But anyway, I think D/C has something coming for us with the overheating problems. :lemon:
  • jc7349jc7349 Member Posts: 17
    You should find the cord right by the Oil dipstick. It should be tie wrapped.
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