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$25.8K (Includes destination) - Carbon/ebony.
$26K (Includes destination and protection package) - Black/parchment or quartz.
Looking at previous posts, the cost regarding the protection package (guards, locks and mats), it looks as if the quotes are equal.
I was thinking $25.5K ($150 over invoice), but I didn't figure in the protection package.
My other offers are > $26.4K.
Any comments?
Have you tried Vandergriff or Mac Churchill?
Do the lifetime oil changes require you to pay for the dealer's "scheduled maintenance", as well? If so, they'll make their money back by requiring more maintenance than Acura does.. Usually, these plans are of limited value.. I wouldn't consider that an extra..
Seems like an average deal... If you can lower the price to make it $27,700 including the doc fee, it would be a little stronger..
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News just in. My third dealer just called and is "claiming they can beat that! I'll let you know.
BTW....I am a freakin nervous WRECK!!!!
I'd want to be down there right away.... to see if I could finalize that deal..
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I'll let you know if they try to act all stupid and stuff tonight!
Thanks for all of the previous post.
including all processing fees, destination charge, and 4 yr/50000 mi oil and
filter changes.
The $200 coupon you have is good toward this purchase. Total price is $27251
with coupon."
I just bought an automatic/non-navi last week in Houston from John Eagle Acura. I was out the door for $27,770. I found that Gillman had the same quote and Beaumont Classic was also around that. Sterling McCall was WAY above the other quotes and wasnt really willing to negotiate that much. I highly recommend John Eagle.
Does this price sound ok? The KBB and Edmunds values are $24805 and $23877 for private sale with this setup in my area. The kbb value seems high and I originally thought $23400 was a fair price but with the deals being mentioned for 05's this now seems to me a bit high. Any thoughts?
I just don't see the value in the used one, to save only $2100....
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In another 2 months the car will be officially 2 MYs old (even though it could physically be even more than 2 years old) - even more depreciation.
Next spring when the first TSXs sold start coming off 3 year leases the current unusually high resale prices will come down to more reasonable levels.
Personally, I may be looking for an '04 TSX auto in Red or Meteor with less than 15000 miles on it in Oct-Dec timeframe and expect to pay somewhere in the neighborhood of $19.5K or less. Otherwise, I'll look for a new '05 around then for dealer cost. Am losing my company car so am going to be getting into the market and so far, the TSX is the front runner.
Get this...Goodson Acura in Irving Texas is trying to tell me that this $599 on my quote is valid! I assume that all cars leave the factory with VIN etching. And even if they don't, Police departments will do it for free. I told them no other Acura place has added this. The message on my machine tried to indicate that they all would. They must think I'm an idiot. As far as I can tell, this is some scam about "registering" your etched I.D.# or VIN for a "cash award over what your ins. co. pays if not returned in 30-days if stolen" theft insurance or some garbage like that. Whatever. Should I deal with this via email now while I'm in the quote gathering process, or at the paper signing stage if they end up with the lowest pre-tax/fee price? I might have to pull out the big guns if they continue...A car dealer relative.
With a market as big as Texas, and with at least a dozen other Acura places within a couple of hours driving or and hour and a half max on a $75 flight, they need to give up the con. I'll go where the best deal is.
I have obtained the following quotes for the Accord:
Accord 4dr 3.0 EX w/leather (v4)--21,682
Accord 4dr 3.0 EX w/leather/XM(v6)--23,923.
The EX v4 was more than 6,000 shipper than the TSX (26,800). Is "the looks" worth 6K of hype?
I have seen post on this forum of people driving the TSX out of the lot for 25,800. So your quote, like mine, is inflated. We must stop the hype about the TSX and drop its price down.
BTW....the exact rate is $0.405.
-40 HP
-Vehicle stability assist
-An extra 1 year/14,000 miles of warranty
-HID headlights
-Sportshift (manumatic)
-More powerful stereo (allegedly 360 watts vs. 120 watts)
-Power passenger seat
-Homelink (integrated garage door opener)
On top of all those, the TSX does look way better IMHO. I drove the Accord and it was a nice car, but after driving the TSX, everything about it felt like a step up. As to if the looks, feel and additional features are worth the $5,000 gap, that is a very personal decision. When I bought my TSX, the gap was about $4,000 and I thought the difference was worth it.
Assuming that $26,800 quote is before TTL, it does sound a bit high, but you have to remember supply and demand. Cars sell for less in some areas of the country (California comes to mind). Other people are quoting out-the-door prices from areas with little or no sales tax, which isn't necessarily a valid comparison point for other states.
Good luck.
Maybe you can all tell that I have no qualms about buying a used Acura -- have done so in the past. Bought a '96 RL in '99, sold it in '04 after having put over 100,000 miles on it and figure I saved over a third to a almost a half of buying a new RL in '99. To me, the Acura Certified program was a great experience. Most of the loss in car value occurs in the 1st 3 years and stabilizes from years 3 to 6/7, then drops after years 7/8 again (depending on mileage). Since I'm in the 4th phase of my second mid-life crisis, something sporty and shiny seems pretty good to me -- a red TSX, or maybe the meteor color. The Meteor Silver seems to have a very nice bluish tint to it.
BTW, as much as I like the v6 accord, which is lot; and having driven one -- it is not as much fun as the TSX nor is does it have as many goodies. Also, a one-year old TSX will have almost the same warranty coverage as a new Accord and can be had for about the same price as the v6 w/ leather so maybe there is an alternative to the cost discrepancy. If the price is fairly equal, then buy the car you prefer based strictly on merit.
17 vs 16 inch wheels
perf leather vs. non-perf
The little things that helped me is I never see a TSX, love the look, and it just is a more sporty car from my perspective. These get to be personal decisions and either car will be great.
The little things that helped me is I never see a TSX, love the look, and it just is a more sporty car from my perspective. These get to be personal decisions and either car will be great.
The residual on the TSX is not higher than most cars in the segement - I think around 60% at 36 mo. - meaning that the $26K TSX will be worth $15600 at lease end - next spring.
I am planning to buy a TSX in a few days. This is my first car so please help me find it for a decent price. Is there anybody to share experiences in buying around the Seattle, Washington area?
Seems like a stupid question, can you please tell me what "being well informed" means. What all do I need to know to strike a good deal? I think that the invoice price is 24,734 (or something around that), isnt that enough. I had been to the Acura dealer at Bellevue and mentioned it, hoping for a good deal, but he added the numbers like this - 24,734 + 560 (dest) + 320 (protection pkg) = 25614. And says that its what he pays for and and he can never come to that!! His offer was 26990. I asked him for 25K and he wudnt budge. Another offer that I hav is for 26151 but it doesnt include the protection package. I am very poor at negotiating so please help me. I like the car a lot but 26K seems a lot for it.
Thanks in advance.
-vsk
From reading here and other forums, it looks like a fair number of people around the country are beating that number, but I haven't seen anyone near $25,000. That's several hundred below invoice, something that isn't likely to happen on a strong selling car. The good deals seem to be in the mid to upper $25's, but I don't know if that includes a protection package or not.
This is a good assessment.. Shoot for this number plus tax... Don't obsess over a $300 protection package.. . that is just another number for the dealer to play with, since these cars don't come with any factory options..
You don't need to be "well-informed"... Just know what is a good number, and try to get it.... then don't buy anything extra in the finance office..
The NW area seems to be a tough market for almost any car... You might have to shop more than a few dealers..
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regards
-vsk
$500-750 over invoice seems to be about the best deals out there. If you have a few dealers around you should be able to get $1K over invoice. If all else fails - expand you search area.
Here's the breakdown they gave me of their cost:
$25,353.84 base invoice including destination charge 570
408.50 pro package
389.95 PDI (pre delivery inspection...getting vehicle ready for sale)
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$26,152.29 Sales Cost!
And then they said they wanted me to make an offer above that so they could make some profit.
I've never heard of the PDI thing--is that bogus? I also thought the protection package was $300. It seems clear their real cost is lower than this total.
Any thoughts or advice on getting a lower offer? I've told the 3 dealers in this area that I'm shopping them all and will buy from the one giving me the best offer.
Does the protection package include the mats or just the trunk tray, mud guards, and wheel locks? If it's all four, the listed price (from Acura Store) comes to $369 plus installation (book time is 0.9 hr). If no mats, think $237 plus 0.8 hr for install. Then again, there's some shop profit in that time, and no telling what the dealer's actual cost is on the accessories.
And for whoever replied about the TTL/doc, etc, I interpreted this listing as the dealer's portrayal of his cost and nothing else.
The price I was quoted, as you (ronsteve) interpreted, was not including TTL/doc, etc.
I now have an offer for 26,350. The dealers around here seem to pretty resistant to lowering their prices.
Realistically do I have much chance to go lower than 26,350? The last dealer I talked to gave me only a $50 lower price than the other one (dropping from 26,400 to 26,350 and the 26,400 was only a $100 drop from the 26,500 I started with at a third dealer...pretty unimpressive increments of drops in price). What's the best strategy? Should I keep bouncing the prices between the 3 dealers (it's not getting me very far) or kind of "draw a line in the sand" and say for example, I'll buy the car right now for 26,000 or 26,150?