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Since (knock on wood) this is not happening so much with Fords newer cars, we have to conclude that they must bemore reliable, at least the ones that EDMUNDS readers bought.
and what of the Camry faithful? I do't know, Toyota is too smart to met something like this slip in its flagship sedan... the timing is just too perfect, but this is not a conspiracy theory forum (especially not an art of war) kind of thing.
It look like Ford could se a rise in sales starting with Job2, hopefully they will se the light and add a manumatic. A six speed of that type would really be fun to drive. Can't complain though, they are really updating there product, over at ford.
1 Being 2 close to the steering wheel.
2 Stretching for the pedals... not a good move.
3 sliding the seat close, then reclining to get some distance from the wheel.
I always choose 3 but then I couldn't see the front of the car.
Check this out:
http://www.jdpower.com/studies_jdpower/pressrelease.asp?StudyID=1160
I think its pretty safe to assume that Mercury scored second overall based on the reliability of all those Sables.
Mark
Stock Upgraded
Fords' stock value was "Upgraded" to Outperform. Also, it is predicted that Fords stock might hit $15.00 a share from it's current $7.30-$8.00 it's at right now. I'm not a financial person and I have no idea what that means. I was wondering is there any Ford fans that could possibly explain what in the world this means. I might buy some Ford stock.
Thanks
Why is it so hard to find a base S model with the security and ABS packages? I live in a big metro area and there's none around here! Does Ford figure people who buy the base models are so cheap that they don't care abour safety? On some vehicles there's side airbags but no ABS?? Who cares enough to get the side airbags and yet doesn't want basic ABS? That's just dumb packaging.
All 06 models sold in July or later get essentially the same extended powertrain warranty as will be standard on the 07s. They're doing it by adding a powertrain ESP which goes to 5 yrs/60K miles on the Ford and Mercury brands and 6 yrs/70K miles on Lincolns. Only difference is the 06 will have a $100 deductible.
Don't blame Ford. The dealers order the vehicles and they tell Ford which options they want or don't want. Fact is there are a lot of people out there who don't want to pay for expensive safety items. If it weren't for the bad publicity from the optional side airbags they'd still be optional for 07.
Don't underestimate the dealer influence. In 2003 the Lincoln LS had 4 models (V6/V8 base and sport) ready to go but due to dealer pressure they ended up with only a base V6 and a V8 sport. Supposedly it was too confusing.
The dealers also killed the V6 manual LS model because they wouldn't order any for test drives and even told customers that you don't need a manual in a Lincoln.
And that is part of the problem with Ford today. If they could start over from scratch with new dealers and new rules it would really be nice.
Ford tells the dealerships what % of each trim and option package they are going to build. This is called the Mix. The Mix is vital to the business case. Optional equipment has more profit. In order for the business model to work, the MIX must be followed.
For instance, if all dealers decided to NOT order the optional automatic transmission, Ford will miss out on all those additional profits from that transmission. The Fusion line as a whole might not even be profitable.
What I hope Ford does is try to balance the Mix so that the vast majority of people are able to get a car with the options that they want.
If you want an unpopular combination, Ford at least gives you the choice of ordering a car.
The Japanese model is to option the cars out for customers with little or no choice and little or no ability to order.
For instance, try finding a new Altima 2.5 S with SE package that does not also have the "Safety kit", "Trunk Mat", and "Splash Guards".
These last there items are just a way for Nissan to add profit to the car. By including them on all cars, the customer has no choice.
As for the S Fusion, Ford already offers a car at that price with Side Air Bags and ABS pretty available. Its called a Focus SES.
Mark
2018 430i Gran Coupe
I understand that they might rescind an option if they ran out of parts but I don't see how they can force certain options on the dealers.
2007MY Recommended Mix
I've noticed the same issue around NE Ohio. None of the dealers order ABS on their S or even SE models. But Ganley equipped all of their fusions with ABS. Most don't, one all... :confuse:
that may be so but your conclusions based on these posts imply that they do have statistical validity. there are no independent surveys that suggest the fusion is less troublesome than the current camry.
happy motoring with your taurus.
Will there ever be a 5 or 6-speed auto for the 4 cylinder?
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fusion/features/specs/
Steve
Are you sure about that? I thought only the 3.5L vehicles get the JV 6 speed (Edge/MKZ/MKX).
Also, dealers order what they want, but ultimately, Ford decides what to build.
Thats why there was a shortage of manual Mustangs. That $1000 automatic had profit they wanted to capture.
Mark
Does anybody know if the Milan will get AWD for MY2007?
Thanks,
A.
http://www.autolinedetroit.com/miscvideo/watch.php?stream=milanawd
By the way...1200 no worry miles for me on my SE 4cyl auto.
I'm actually quite surprised that we haven't seen at least a few minor problems - I expected that from a totally new vehicle. But so far so good. If you look at the track record of recent vehicles like the Mustang and new F150 you'll see a similar pattern. I think Quality really is job 1 again.
Ford is probably fairly limited in the volumes they can kick out of Fusion/Milan/Zephyr as they currently all come out of one plant, however they also are competing against all the other brands, so no manufacturer really can get too greedy in the midsize sedan market. There are just too many competitors with good vehicles to choose from.
Why wait?
Mark
Wasn't the 3.0 Duratec used without any cam phasing in the Taurus since about 1998?
BTW, this engine is an American design.
My advice is to get the car that you want. Almost all cars nowadays have acceptable reliability, and I think Ford has made some great strides of late.
As a bit of an aside, I simply don't understand some people...two of my friends own 4-year-old Accords, both have had some problems, yet I got looked at like I had 3 heads when I told them I bought another Ford. I think some people need to wake up and realize it's not the 80's anymore - Honda and Toyota certainly make good cars but so do the Big Three.
Actually, it's used in the current generation Mondeo.