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Tuning in to this forum has really helped me to get a fix on some of the issues that I didn't even realize existed. And I am beginning to understand my husband's thinking better, too. He'll owe you all for that.
Bill
If I can zoom into fast traffic on a highway up ramp, and be strong and steady on the interstate beside big-truck traffic, then I think I'm going to be happy with the new GS also, even though the HP increase is not large, its gotta be worth something. Besides, I couldn't wait this out much longer than I already have, for the 350 for instance.
When you say "handle better", do you mean fast corners and rough roads?
When I say better handling I mean things like suspension tuning and power-steering boost levels. Oac may hold out hope that the 350 will be the "real" GS, but I dont. Its just not like Lexus to do something like that. On the other hand, this is supposed to be the start of the "new" Lexus, so I guess we'll just have to see.
Carry on.
Lexusguy - could you explain the "lexus, both good and bad sense"... I have never owned a lexus, but am considering the GS or new (2006) IS350 (U.S. intro happens Wed) for purchase in the fall.
Thank you. Cheers
Can you share with us what type of deal you received from Lexus? How much over invoice? What options? Any information you could share would be appreciated!
Don't know where you live but at Park Place Lexus in Grapevine, TX (Dallas) I think they'd be REAL happy to accept your offer. As a matter of fact, I believe they're selling "at" Sticker and, perhaps, slightly below.
Joe
2006 LEXUS GS300
ALL IN STOCK VEHICLES-BASE MODEL
MSRP: $45,679
YOUR PRICE: NOW $44179*!!!!(price does not include tax, license or doc. fee & is good thru 3/30/05(in stock vehicles only)--11 available - call for color selection
LEASE SPECIAL: BASE MODEL
36 MONTHS
12K MILES PER YEAR
$2500 TOTAL DRIVE OFF EXPENSE
PAYMENT- $626+TAX
(Lease quote is subject to change and credit approval)
Contact them direct. They have been very helpful in the past.
Maybe the LS will get over 30MPG combined, if not so performance tuned.
This is good news.
Not IS news!
DrFill
Others have reported this as well. I forgot what the cause was though.
Check if your headlights has condensation that won't go away after rain.
Congrats on your purchase. It's a very smooth car.
Thanks.
So with "high 20's" combined mpg, I am guessing low to mid 20's in the city and low to mid 30's on the highway. Plus 300+ Hp. Nice
But that is what is happening. The GS450h will come out in Spring 2006, and the GS460 will come out in Fall 2006, from what I hear.
What are they thinking?
Thanks.
Very interesting.... I test drove the 2005 530i and the 2006 GS300 several times and went the other way.
Totally agree with you on the interior. The GS is very luxurious and the 5-series is POOR (leather, cupholders, etc.) at best.
There are several things in the GS, however, that were a deal-breaker for me. First, the trunk is too small.... 12.7 cu.ft. small! The rear wheel well intrusions also limit the useable space.
Second, interior space in the driver compartment feels cramped. There is MORE room in my wife's ES300!
Last, but not least, the GS steering was too light and over-boosted. I have always preferred the tighter, heavier Euro feel that BMW best exemplifies.
As for Lexus "nailing it" in the GS, why would they introduce a new 3-liter V6 that has 10 lb-ft less torque than the entry-level ES330? IMHO, Lexus blew it when they didn't use the new 3.5-liter, 280hp V6 that's in the 2006 Avalon.
Having said all that, I'm sure that the 2006 GS300 will prove to be a big winner for Lexus. For me, however, it didn't provide the "driving experience" that I was looking for.
Martin
More later.
Do you have AWD or RWD?
Can you elaborate a little on the differences between the '03 GS that you traded and the '06 and how the '06 is improved? Handling better, less body roll?
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Besides the great looks both exterior and interior-wise(BIG improvements over the '03) it rides much better, is much more "solid", is quieter and handles better (very flat when turning corners; not much roll in light of how well it rides). Can't say that there's any significant difference in how it performs in the 0 to 60 category, etc. It does seem marginally quicker, however. And in any event, always felt the '03 was an adequate performer power-wise.
As I said earlier, the "in-person" appearance is quantum leaps ahead of the '03. It is unfortunate it is not particularly photogenic since face-to-face I think it's a knockout. It looks like what I suspect Chris Bangle of BMW was trying for but failed so miserably with his new designs.
Any other info I can provide, let me know.