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Plus, another issue is what I see on the Toyotafinancial.com web site:
1 These SRPs are not applicable in the state of Florida and are not effective in Pennsylvania for Vehicle Service Agreements that are financed on retail installment sales contracts. Please contact your local dealer for further information.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Tampa Gator
Let us Florida owners know how you make out at these two dealers. I am also interested in the same extended warranty.
Island Avy :shades:
Here is what I found out. The dealership is willing to sell the Warranty (6 years / 100k / $0 Deductible / Platinum) to me for $855 with no sales tax. In florida the warranty is $1650 plus tax. This is almost a $1,000 difference.
Basically there are 10 states in in the SouthEast (FL, GA, etc) and Gulf States (LA, Alabama, Etc) that have their own warranties that they sell. The Southeast Toyotas sell their plan through Fidelity / JSA or some name like that. Basically, Toyota covers the rest of all states but those 10 states. Toyota's plan is through Toyota Finance or Insurance Company.
Basically what I found out via the 800# for the Toyota Extra Care Program (Warranty) for the rest of the states is that I can purchase the warranty in any state that I want to. However, a warranty purchased in Kansas might not be covered by dealerships in the Southeast / Fidelity area. Each dealership can decide if they accept the other warranty. Toyota said that if the dealership doesn't accept the plan, that you pay yourself and can get reimbursed. But they explained, you might not get reimbursed 100% of the payment. They explained it might be 80% or so. They explained they only pay what is normal for each problem and some dealerships will charge too much. They are charging the consumer rather than giving a discount to the warranty company. This could be an issue.
Well, I called up one of my local dealerships and talk to the service manager and he said they cover The Toyota Extra care plan as well. He said it takes a little bit more paper work, but they usually cover everything. I acted as if I bought the car and warranty in Kansas a few years ago and said they cover it. Then I told him what I was actually doing and he said it was interesting what I was finding out. He said they accept Toyota Extra care all the time. Now I will call another dealership.
Thanks,
Tampa Gator
Island Avy :shades:
Laura
Dealer very good with providing invoice info, etc. Car was in transit from Kentucky when I closed deal.
When I took delivery, everything was as we agreed on the various e mails. No tricks or surprises.
However financial guy tried to charge me nearly $2100 for an 84 month/75k ext.warranty.Was stunned when I showed the print out from Toyota Financials Website showing cost was $1300, which was still too high, but I bought it for the website price. Just too many bells and whistles that can break down the road.
Kelley Blue Book (KBB.com) itemized the SE toyota fees and does a better job showing actual invoice. You can also check my other posts (tampabob) to this forum for my specific invoice. Hope this helps.
VSC, REMOTE ENGINE, R.SPOILER,W.LOCKS,MATS,GLASS BREAKAGE SENSOR FOR $34,871 WHICH IS $300 OVER INVOICE PLUS $895 FOR PREMIUM EXTENDED COVERAGE. DID IT BY FAX TO 25 TOYOTA DEALERS ASKING THEM TO BID. 15 REPLIED. NEVER WENT TO THE SHOWROMM EXCEPT TO PICK UP CAR. BEST TIME ---27TH OF MONTH
ONE EXTRA YOU CAN NOT ESCAPE IS THEIR ADVERTISING EXPENSE THAT TOYOTA CHARGES EVERY DEALER----- USUALLY 1%OF MSRP
Mackabee
I understand your skepticism. I was flabbergasted at the final price of $28,500. Go to photobucket.com and log in with: pftaylor1319 and ukulele, as the password, for before and after pictures of the charcoal tint photographs.
While not trying to turn your fairy tale into a nightmare, I forgot to mention it also came with ToyoGuard Plus as well. So the first oil change was free (I provided the Mobil 1).
I can assure you that every word I have written is entirely true. I would even be willing to introduce you to my dealer buddy. Next time you are in Tampa, swing by and I will show you all the paperwork and the car. Better yet bring your golf clubs and we'll make a day out of it!
I now have just over 1000 miles on it and do not have any quirks, rattles, loose fog lamps, or pulling to the right. Count me as a very satisfied Limited owner. Now if I could just find a knowledgeable dealer. Kuhn Toyota in Tampa is brutal.
I was mistaken on one point. It only has the remote keyless entry with push button start and not the remote start...
If you have a nice car, don't bother trying to trade it. They will rip you off.
Good luck and hold on to your wallet if you are shopping in Tampa.
I almost "supposedly" bought a new 2006 Limited at cost plus $250 before I blew the deal up. Why was I going to be granted such a great deal to begin with?
Well, my used car buddy was personal friends with the GM of a nearby Toyota dealer and because of professional courtesy, they were willing to do a wholesale deal. When I went by the dealership to pick up the car, that's when I encountered manipulative selling techniques that were nothing short of laughable.
Here's an example;
The dealer in Tampa claimed that every Limited had Toyoguard Plus applied - cost $699. Unfortunately, the poor dealer apparently had no so say in this matter, since Toyoguard was added at the port said he. When I suggested ordering one without the option, I was told it was impossible. I wondered why a port was necessary when the cars were built in Kentucky and there was not a navigable body of water around the bluegrass state. I also wondered aloud why other Limiteds on Toyota's web site did not have this protection plan added. He had no viable response other than to say that each and every one of his did.
Then there was that pesky documentation fee of $499.99 which is actually part of the so-called 3-part window sticker. The so-called invoice from my dealer was the Edmunds invoice cost plus another $1,200 of unanticipated costs. When you add in the slim $250 of profit, it turned out to be a real world whopping $1,450 over true invoice. I left the dealership when the manager stated that even his own mother would have to pay the additional fees. He then offered to "split" the costs with me and in a humanitarian moment, I suggested he split the cost savings with his next customer.
I was done.
My advice would be to clearly define the word invoice because the dealer has a much different definition then us uninformed buyers who are grossly misled by sites like Edmunds.
Thanks for your comments. I'm well aware of our ability to locate an Avalon without the Toyoguard protection package. However, at least the dealers (that I went to) claimed it wasn't possible. According to them, everybody had to pay so why was I resisting when it was a fact. I decided to look in a different direction rather than continue with a dysfunctional conversation. Afterall, when the dealer is arguing over confirmed hard facts, what chance did I have of crafting a legit purchase.
My personal observation is that certain dealers are having to result to gross mis-information and manipulative techniques as a way of protecting profit margins. Why they think that treating informed buyers with basic truths is somehow not the way to do business correctly is beyond me. Perhaps that approach works with Corolla buyers but frankly its insulting when the discussion hovers around a $35K - $40K car like the Limited.
All other luxury brands (Infiniti, MB, & BMW) I have bought in the past have treated the transaction as a business decision whereby the more facts you as a consumer have the better.
I have been a sales professional for the better part of my adult life and my approach to selling is to help clients succeed. My position is that if the client can find a higher quality solution that meets his needs better than of course he should buy it.
This is surely not the case with certain Toyota dealer(s). They might as well put an ADM on the sticker and blatantly rip the public off rather than hide their true intentions.
Since I wanted to cash the car out and had no trade, I can now only wonder about what pitfalls I would have faced when the F & I manager began to ply his logic.
By contrast, I was at a Honda dealer over the weekend looking at a Pilot for my wife, and their entire approach was far more professional and straightforward.
Mackabee
Now the bad part; their Toyota dealerships are only in Washington/DC, Chicago, and Milwaukee. After seeing airfare was only $100 I'm flying into DC to pick mine up. They even pay for the cab. All their cars are listed online, and if you call their dealership they can even tell you what's coming in. The sales person I spoke with said they have a lot of people fly in, that's why they pay for the cab fare.
BTW, you can do a search on CarMax reviews to verify they're legit. No, I don't work for them... I'm just tired of the typical dealership crap you have to go through just to buy a car. They can even have all the paperwork ready for you prior to arrival (including financing if you wish) so all you have to do is sign & drive. :shades:
Based on your comments and the others, I've decided to pass on the Avalon even though I could get some discount off of the vehicle (one dealer had 17 units on their lot). I really liked the styling, but the quality issues, which are also confirmed by the white dot for overall quality and "body integrity" identified on Consumer Reports, tipped it. I also wanted fold down rear seats, a larger trunk, and fold-in mirrors.
what do you guys think of the price?
thanks
It sounds like you got/or are getting a good price for that vehicle. The sticker for touring models start at $32k (at least the ones I've seen in the area), so it sounds like it is around $29,000+/- before ttl.
Just an fyi, Walnut Creek Toyota is giving $3,000 off of the MSRP for all Avalon XLS in stock. Also, maybe Sunnyvale Toyota may be another dealer in your neck of the woods.
I think I know who the dealer is you're referencing.... 2 hr NW ? If so, I have been exchanging emails with them for about a week now.
From what I understand in checking KBB & NADA, it seems the SE dealers get the luxury of having an additional markup from the distributor. To my knowledge AL, GA, SC, NC, FL are the only states in the country having to pay this fee.
I'm still shopping as I am looking for an unsual package; XL, with leather .. no other options.
Will let you know where I end up. If you want to email me with dealer contact info I would appreciate it. My email is my ID at email.com Trust me, I'm only willing to fly into DC because I hate having to deal with car dealer tactics.
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I had really good quotes from these six dealerships in North Carolina (within $100-300 of each other) so I thought I would post the dealerships which gave me best prices as any one of these can give you the best price:
1. Toyota West - Statesville, NC
2. Victory Toyota - North Wilkesboro NC
3. Mid-state Toyota Asheboro NC
4. Go Toyota Clinton NC (gave lowest quote)
5. Toyota of Gastonia NC
6. Rice Toyota Greensboro NC
I had called about 25 dealerships in NC out of 40 (at which point I got tired of calling). These six gave me really good quotes, the lowest was given by GO TOYOTA but it was 3 hrs 44 mins away and second lowest was giving delivery in 2 weeks so I am buying from 3rd best quote!!
I think you should try all six dealerships as my experience with all of them was really awesome.
Let me know if you need any more info.
Had already contacted 2 of the six. Also got a really good quote from Jim Barkley - Ashville. ~$500 over invoice (as best I could tell from Edmunds and KBB) and no doc fees.
Too bad Charlotte area dealers won't offer anything decent. But, I don't mind spending an afternoon drive to get a good deal.
when I got the car back to Texas. I then got a quote from every Toyota dealer in Houston. Don Mcgill Toyota of houston gave me the best quote of $35,045 (not including tax, title and licence)for a 2006 limited with Dynamic Laser Cruise Control, Navigation System, Vehicle Stability Control, Window Tinting, Rear Spoiler & Mats. I called the airlines for a flight to North Carolina, price one way was $278.00. After you add up motel room, gas, 1000 miles of wear and tear on a new car & food I would save $300.00. I decided to pay the extra $300 and bought the car from Don Mcgill, about 2 miles from my home. I made the deal with the fleet manager with no car dealer tricks. I did not have a trade and had my own financing.
Enjoy and break her in slowly,
Island Avy
I live in the SFV of Los Angeles and am looking to buy a new 06 avalon w/nav. does anyone have a idea of a good price to be paying in LA or a good dealer. I am looking for a black/rear spoiler/nav/. Any help would be apreciated
Rod
I have had my car for only 2 months, but love the ride and handling. It feels like I'm driving a Lexus without the Lexus price tag. I highly recommend this car and Boch Toyota as a dealership.
MSRP: 38,628
Selling Price: 34,612
I am planing on leasing. Now all I want to know is what is the residual value for 24 and 36 months also what is the Money Factor.
Thank You!