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  • joechojoecho Member Posts: 3
    It seems that Second EC number is available to employees and retirees for giving out, according to Chrysler online order page. I wonder if I can have one if anybody is with Chrysler. I plan to buy a 2007 T&C. My current car, Buick Rendezvous is gradually dying (nemerous repairs so far reaching $3,000). Our whole family will really appreciate it.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    A reporter is interested in hearing from parents who own a 2008 minivan. Please reply to jfallon@edmunds.com by Tuesday, October 9, 2007 and be sure to include the make and model of your minivan and the age of your kids.
  • bskiesbskies Member Posts: 2
    We purchased our T&C on eBay last year from a seller whose username is ramscoenterprises. So far we've been very pleased. There were features that were important to us, and some that weren't that in retrospect I wish I'd held out for.

    We bought it right at a year ago in October 2006. According to the paperwork, its manufacture date was February 06. It had been owned by a business in OK, and had 8,000 miles on it.

    It was the base model, and did have things like a CD player, dual control air, Stow 'N Go, etc. It doesn't have the power doors, something I do think I'd have been glad to have. I especially wanted leather seats (easier to clean!) and a DVD player/screen. That particular seller has those custom installed, which is actually nice (at least the one we have is) because our screen is 10", which is very nice and big. It also swivels... and it did come with wireless headphones.

    We paid just over $18K for it. He lives in Texas, and there are two states between us. The bid price included free delivery, but when I realized I could fly there one-way for about $100, it would just take one day to drive home, and he'd knock a few hundred off our price, I picked it up myself. It was very easy - they met us with the van at the airport and we were good to go.

    In the last few weeks it's started making an odd sound that reminds me of a dentist drill. It only lasts 5-10 minutes. If I warm it up before driving it it doesn't make the noise at all. Fortunately, it's still got another 12K miles before the warranty is up!
  • balboa625balboa625 Member Posts: 2
    Does anyone know if dealers are discounting 08's below invoice?
  • timothyftimothyf Member Posts: 40
    Just factory ordered an Inferno Red 2008 T&C Limited w/ pkg#3, Tow pkg, & swivel seats. The price was $33,170 + TTL. Price includes owner loyalty, 3 for free, and $500 rebate. I figure its roughly about $2-300 under Edmunds dealer invoice. I don't know if this is a good price or not. We test drove one. It's a great car, the kids' loved the table and dvd tv, and I felt good about supporting the US industry. I'm keeping my fingers crossed regarding it's reliability.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    Excellent color choice. I recently bought an Inferno Red Sebring and am very happy with it. I think that color looks great with the chrome accents. With the lifetime powertrain warranty I thought it was a good time to buy.

    Hope you're as happy with your T&C Limited as I've been thus far with my Sebring. The MyGIG system with voice activated commands and the GPS navigation is way cool.
  • 07tnc07tnc Member Posts: 2
    Got myself a red 07 T & C for 14950 + tax . We also had credit card incentive of about 900 for a new car, reducing the price to about 14k+tax. Just the base model, nothing fancy, short wheel base, as we did'nt need the extra space and is easier to park in the garage. We'll see how it works out in the long run, plan to keep it forever like (> 10 yrs) we did with the other cars we had.

    The 08s are nicer, but they aren't discounting them yet.
  • jamato_skjamato_sk Member Posts: 4
    we are going to test drive some 07 Town and Countries... been hearing a lot about EC number discounts...

    would anyone have an EC number they could spare?

    you could send it to jamato_sk@scoca-k12.org
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    Did you mean to say $2-300 under Edmunds dealer INVOICE or MSRP? I'm surprised they're discounting them so much already.

    My 06 Honda Odyssey Touring is about to go out of warranty and needs new PAX tires ($1200 to replace). So, I'm thinking about the 08 T&C. My local dealer gave me the standard "This is the hottest van out there--demand is far outstripping supply." To which I responded: "OK, call me in December when you and the van are cold."
  • timothyftimothyf Member Posts: 40
    Under invoice. I'm a good customer so I'm pretty sure that they'll make it up in parts and service over the next six years.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Member Posts: 764
    Wow! Nice work. Enjoy your new van.
  • artgpoartgpo Member Posts: 483
    I just looked at the "Search Dealer Inventory" function of Chrysler's website looking at the availability of '08 Town and Countrys. The first two dealer's inventories had a combined 25 in stock. There are another four or five Chrysler dealers in San Antonio so there has to be about 60 in town. What is even more interesting is the $1,000 rebate being offered on this brand new van.

    Short supply? Both Dollar and Thrifty here in town have dozens on their lots.
  • johnbrainjohnbrain Member Posts: 10
    My local dealer, from whom I bought my Pacifica, has quoted me WAY HIGH. They're getting in what must be a Touring because it has Nav, Power Third Row,Ent. Group 3, Sirius backseat TV,Trailer Tow Group and Flexible Seating.

    Quoted me a selling price (before TTL etc) of $41810. I priced it on Edmunds and get roughly $35+.

    Are they getting so much over MSRP on these? I just don't see myself paying that much for and Minivan.
  • colorado13colorado13 Member Posts: 5
    A Town & Country Limited can go that high at retail, but I sure don't think a Touring model can.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    John,

    Configure what you want on Edmunds, print it out and take that to the dealer. You two may be on different tracks of what he thinks you wanted.

    Also, chrysler.com has a Build Your Own link where you can configure what you want right down to the color and shows you what that color looks like on the minivan.

    If the dealer tries to sell it for even a dime over MSRP contact any blue collar Chrysler employee for a green sheet discount. We are allowed to give out two per year to non-relatives. ;)
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    John (part 2),

    Here is an example of what you can expect to save if you get an employee control number.

    A 2008 T&C Limited with no other options has an MSRP of $36,400, including $730 destination. The employee discount and $1,000 cash allowance would bring that down to $31,320, for a savings of $5,080.

    The $1,000 cash allowance expires on 10/31/07. Let me know if I can be of further help.

    To anyone else reading this who is interested in a similar discount, there are over 40,000 blue collar Chrysler workers in the U.S. Ask around and I'm sure you can find a friend of a friend who works for them. They do not have to be a relative. They should be more than happy to give you a control number to promote the product.
  • withalacritywithalacrity Member Posts: 4
    I presently own a Town and Country and qualify for the $1200 eIncentive rebate from Chrysler. With the $500 loyalty and current $1000 rebate I received a quote from a dealer for a 2008 T&C Limited (base model - $36,400) for $30,580. This price was without an employee control number (ECN).

    It all comes down to this: how aggressive are dealers willing to make an offer. If one takes time to do their homework, there are deals out there.

    But if someone does their homework and is fortunate to have access to an ECN, boy have you got yourself a deal!
  • johnbrainjohnbrain Member Posts: 10
    Wow. That is huge. I'll let you know. I asked the Internet Manager for all the exact info on the car they're getting. Packages etc. Unfortunately there is no pull-through on this model so I'll have to build in 4 payments. I may wait until next year.
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  • playtimeplaytime Member Posts: 12
    I purchased a town country touring with the special edition package consisting of leather-dvd player-gps-trailer tow package-lets just say its loaded its sticked out at just under $36,000 not much less then a limited's base price. questioned why anyone would order and purchase a touring when they could get most everything this has on it for a limited price until I found out it was a sales mans personal van that he special ordered and drove as a demo. He didn't like the body cladding or the chrome wheels but did like the two tone leather better with the special edition package. I ended up purchasing his demo for an out the door price of $26,783.00 it had 4,987 miles on it. The sales people at this dealership have to purchase "make payments" on their demo and once it gets close to the 5,000 miles park it if they drive it over that 5,000 mile mark the company "Chysler" conciders it used anything under can be sold as a new vechical minis the 5,000 miles and the in service date it was entered into the demo system that is highly discounted with the owner purchaser getting the remaining warrenty less the under 5,000 miles it had been driven. Its treated as new plus any thing the saleman had added such as running boards for example are warrenteed for 12 months-12,000 miles because they are a Mopar option. My Brother purchased a touring without nearly the options as my t&c it stickering at about $31.000 with used the employee discount and still paid almost $4,500 more then I did. I now have just over 10,000 on it and am most satisfied. I had planned on purchasing a new 2008 but working in a auto factory myself I will hold out for another demo a couple years down the road when I know for sure the bugs are out of them. Maybe some one can find a 2008 demo at a large dealership and strike a very good deal as all rebates apply to them also as long as they are a Chysler owned vehical still they are like mine concidered new. cheers
  • johnbrainjohnbrain Member Posts: 10
    Does the residual change with the negotiated price or is it a fixed figure? example using 50% residual.

    Would the residual be $15k on a $30k purchase price but $13k on a $26k negotiated price? or does residual value not move from a fixed dollar amount?
  • withalacritywithalacrity Member Posts: 4
    This can be confusing. The residual value is based on the MSRP of the vehicle. This is a projected value of the vehicle at the end of the lease.

    For example a vehicle with a MSRP of $30,000, and a residual value of 55% implies the vehicle should be worth $16,500 at the end of the lease. Of course this is speculation.

    Subtracting the residual value from the MSRP gives you the depreciation of the vehicle over the life of the lease. This is what the lease is based on and this is the cost of the "vehicle rent" charge you are using.

    Using the previous example, subtracting the $16,500 residual value from the MSRP of $30,000 gives a gross depreciation amount of $13,500. If you lease this vehicle for 36 months, the monthly use, or depreciation amount, will be $375.00.

    This is a simple example of the process. The depreciation amount will change with dealer discounts or money the customer puts down. If a customer, or dealer with incentives, were to put $2700 down, the $13,500 depreciation value with become $10,800, The new monthly depreciation value will be $300.

    Remember in a lease there are two components, the depreciation which typically uses residual values supplied by the manufacture, and the money factor, which is a monthly interest charge added to the monthly depreciation amount.

    A “perfect lease" would have a very high residual value and a very low money factor. The former typically is not negotiable, since it is set by the manufacture. The later is negotiable. This is where the lease variance usually can be found.

    Mark
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,425
    One correction..

    "Subtracting the residual value from the MSRP gives you the depreciation of the vehicle over the life of the lease."

    Depreciation = Selling price minus residual, not: MSRP minus residual.

    Selling prices are negotiable on leased vehicles, just like they are on purchases. You should always negotiate the lowest price possible, as every dollar lower goes directly in your pocket.

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  • tomjeri92tomjeri92 Member Posts: 1
    I purchased at T & C Limited MSRP $37,860 Sunroof & Uconnect. The advertised price in the Tampa Bay Florida area was $29467. I purchased it for $23,500 out the door. That included a trade of a 2003 Mazda MPV Van with 87000 miles in good condition.
  • gunksnygunksny Member Posts: 12
    Just bought a 2008 Chrysler T&C Touring with M package + power fold down seats, moonroof, sirius TV for $32,555 (without taxes/reg/etc). Opted to take 1.9% financing instead of and additional $1500 cash back. About $600 less than invoice as far as I can tell.

    Don't know about other areas, but in the NE, these cars are hard to find, they are taking a long time to build and are rolling onto the lots in small numbers so I feel pretty lucky. Also heard that no better incentives will be coming in Nov due to great demand for this car.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    Please reassure me about the MiGIG system. The Wall Street Journal did a spot on it and they said it was poor. They could not seem to download from their I-Pod. They also did not like the screen display. I hope I will not be disappointed.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    I don't have an iPod, so I can't comment on how well the MyGIG interfaces with it.

    On the screen display, it's not a 1080p HDTV resolution but I think it is nice for GPS navigation and the other things it does. I haven't tried watching a DVD movie on it yet. I guess I should at least verify that it works. I probably wouldn't have bought the car if it didn't have the MyGIG already in it.

    You can see it in action for yourself if you stop by a dealer and have them show you some of what it does.

    Did you see Chrysler's online demo for MyGIG? www.chrysler.com/mygig
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    Here is the WSJ link:

    http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid452319854/bctid1178857054
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    I can't imagine you can download songs off your iPod. You can't even download songs off an iPod to a Mac, I doubt it is possible. Sounds like an error to me. Besides, you've got a USB port, just plug it in and roll. I'll bet there's an easy fix for the USB error. At the very least, there's an audio input jack that'll connect to the headphone out on your iPod.

    Maybe you can do it with other brands of MP3 players? That's just not a feature Apple allows.

    As far as I know, the MiGig system lets you to load CDs into the hard drive acting like an iPod.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    As far as I know, the MiGig system lets you to load CDs into the hard drive acting like an iPod.

    Yes, the manual for MyGIG says that you can load up to 1,600 songs on the HD and create a virtual jukebox.

    Part of the 20GB HD space is used for the navigation database and other things. I don't know how much is reserved for music files or how they arrived at the 1,600 song figure.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    The more I think about it the more I agree with you. Apple doesn't let you do anything with that I-Pod and protects themselves well. I'm surprised that a company like the WSJ would not have realized that much.

    As for the interface display - nothing is going to be as good as an IPod right now. That is why they sell so well even though so many competitors exist. Bought my kids an imitation IPod a year ago for X-mas. It immediately got returned for an IPod. Kids won't have anything except an IPod because of the likability of the interface.

    If someone is expecting Apple to come in and design an interface as nice as an IPod - you'd add at least a grand or two to the price of the van. Right now MyGIG seems adequate - not fancy, but that may improve in the next years models.

    Do those who currently have the MyGig find the Navi system easy to use?
  • icvciicvci Member Posts: 1,031
    Just an FYI, Harman Kardon makes an iPod interface that's been getting rave reviews.

    http://www.harmankardon.com/drive-1/

    The Ford SYNC system is really cool, it recognizes songs, artists, playlists. It can even read you your emails and text messages. But, alas, they dropped their minivans. However, Ford's proprietary agreement ends in 09 so, other vehicles will offer it. On Ford vehicles it only costs $395 and doesn't have any renewal costs associated with it. All you need is a Bluetooth phone and an MP3 player. Hopefully it will be that inexpensive on other vehicles. Oh and Apple and VW have a similar system that will be introduced soon.

    I worry about the hard drive in the Migig system, hard drives fail eventually. What's that gonna cost? And will I still be able to use my stereo without it? Personally, I'd rather just have a nice interface with my iPod and forego the other stuff.
  • gunksnygunksny Member Posts: 12
    Its a little misleading when MyGIG touts a 20gb harddrive, when only 6 gb is usable for music files. Does anyone know the limit for picture files?

    Sirius TV picture quality is a little grainy, but I don't think you can expect much better - after all, you are watching TV in your CAR!!!
  • golfpro13golfpro13 Member Posts: 3
    Hi,
    Read your message & I'm getting the same T&C in PA. but after getting dealer down to invoice he says I have to pay
    Phila. Metro PPA/EB-PF fee of $210.00 and
    Phila. Metro DDA fee of $445.00 all passed on to the dealer through Chrysler. Is this real & did you have to pay anything like it or are they just making up lost profit with a bunch of B S.
  • gunksnygunksny Member Posts: 12
    Hi -

    There was a bs 'we charge metro areas a random you must be rich tax', but those were all figured into the invoice price. Thats why my invoice price was higher than the one calculated on edmunds.

    Sounds like it could be legit. Which options and what price did you end up with before taxes/docs? Did you get an actual copy of the invoice? As I mentioned before, when it was all said and done, I was at 32555, then there was tax and titles and a few other random charges. I'll check for more detail when I get home.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    Well I just did it -- just bought a Limited with a Chrysler Employee discount. Happy with THAT final price. Rebate is nice as is that warranty!! Special ordered mine though to get the colors I want. 4-6 weeks and it will be here!! I can wait because I have a 2000 Chrysler T&C with 170K on it. Have had no problems except a fuel pump at 167K. I KNOW this is a good product.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    I got the same DDA/PPa bullcrap charges even with an Emp Discount. It does make you feel less guilty if you hear them say "I'm not making any profit here".. They make money no matter so drive for your absolute best deal. I don't resent their making a profit, just prefer upfront charges.
  • wolveseatsheepwolveseatsheep Member Posts: 41
    My local dealer has a pair of 2007s left. How low might he go on the Limited with MSRP = $38,600 at this point?
  • gunksnygunksny Member Posts: 12
    RIght - any good dealer will break it down for you up front. Ie. ' invoice' price and 'out the door' price (including all the bs fees for extra gas and 'chrysler mailer', etc).

    Any dealer that tells you he isn't making any profit is full of it - do you know anyone in the business of selling cars to lose money? Fact is, they make 500-1000 a car even if they sell at invoice - even more depending on factory to dealer incentives and bonuses if they hit numbers.

    My dealer faxed me the actual invoice, then detailed the out the door number for me line by line. I was able to get the car below invoice because they were a car away from hitting the top factory to dealer bonus level at the end of the month. Everyone was happy.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    You can deal your best on 07's but the big rebate (was $4500) is not being offered right now on the 07's -- rather they are rebatign 08's right now. But if you can wait a few days the rebates might go up again. Read this:

    http://www.autoblog.com/2007/11/09/chrysler-offering-new-rebates-four-defunct-mo- dels-priced-to-go/#comments
  • wolveseatsheepwolveseatsheep Member Posts: 41
    So this $5000 Manufacturer to Dealer Marketing Incentive is not in play?

    http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/chrysler/townandcountry/100810241/incentives.htm- l
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    I think you know more than I do. If you get 1% or 2% below invoice plus $5000 rebate, I think that is the absolute best you'll do.
  • skinsfan2skinsfan2 Member Posts: 4
    We just looked at an '08 T&C Limited with all the bells and whistles and kids/wife fell lin love with it. Of course! Any help with gaining a control number (email to crkmdk@yahoo.com) for getting more reasonable pricing would be greatly appreciated. Expecting our 4th here soon so extra room is essential.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    Any help with gaining a control number for getting more reasonable pricing would be greatly appreciated.

    I'll be happy to help you with that. Chrysler employees are permitted to give out two control numbers per year to non relatives.

    I just used one for a friend, who was a long-time Mazda MPV driver. He picked up his '08 T&C Stow-n-Go minivan Saturday and he loves it.

    I'll contact you via email after I get home tonight (still at work until 3:30 a.m.) with additional info.
  • golfpro13golfpro13 Member Posts: 3
    Tedebear,
    You mentioned getting a control number for an' 08 T&C but not sure if that message was for me or not. I'm new @ this thing. Any help would be great.
    Thank you.
    golfpro13
  • drpainlessdrpainless Member Posts: 1
    I have been following the T & C forums for years now but this is my first post. I have owned two previous vans ( 00 Limited and 02 Limited). I was happy with both cars but its time for a new one. I have decided to get (you quessed it) the 08 Limited but the dealers here in Orange County are not dealing much. I also would appreciate if a member had an extra control number I could use (email at drpainless@dslextreme.com). Also can anyone tell me if the optional sunroof has a sunshade that can be pulled open (like on most cars) or if its just the glass. Thank you for all the insight I have gained over the years from this forum.
  • maryh3maryh3 Member Posts: 263
    I don't know about the sunroof cover but if you do get the sunroof you won't get any of the overhead storage compartments or halo lighting.
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    You mentioned getting a control number for an' 08 T&C but not sure if that message was for me or not.

    Golfpro13,

    That was in reply to skinsfan2 (message #409). I'm still waiting to hear back from him.

    I didn't see a post from you requesting a control number or I would have contacted you first. As I mentioned in my previous message, we can give out 2 numbers to non relatives per year. I already gave out one of mine last week.

    Someone else posted a link in message #410 about a forum on here where apparently a lot of Chrysler employees visit. You might try over there.

    If I don't hear from skinsfan2 in a few more days you are welcome to have the one I still have left.
  • golfpro13golfpro13 Member Posts: 3
    Tedebear,
    Thank you for your info & help.
    That would be great to get if you don't hear back from him.
    All the best,
    golfpro13
  • tedebeartedebear Member Posts: 832
    golfpro13,

    Just wanted to let you know that skinsfan2 contacted me today and I gave him my last control number. Sorry about that.

    As I mentioned previously, someone posted a link on message # 410 where a lot of Chrysler employees apparently visit. You might try posting your request over there.

    Good luck in your search.
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