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I was told by a 'dealer' that a manual trans was not available with the 4.8 5-speed and the extended cab long bed. He was lying and won't get my business. Good riddance.
The unfortunate thing is that the 5-speed with the 4.8 is the Getrag designed POS that blows up if you tow anything. I have the same tranny on my 90 5.7 5-speed. Mine has held up fine for 185K miles, but I know no less than five people who destroyed these transmissions, all by towing with it. The 3/4 ton gets the great NV4500, but you also get the bonus feature of 12mpg, which I can't live with. What I really want is the 5.3 with the NV4500, but GM will never build that model, because they would lose too much revenue at $1K a pop for the automatic.
If you really want a good deal on a Silverado, order a BASE model with a 5-speed and radio delete. GM is giving a $500 (retail) credit for manual transmissions right now. (I suspect to improve their CAFE balance, since the manual gets better EPA extimated mileage). Delete the sorry AM/FM radio for another $250 (retail) credit. Have
a local stereo shop put in a better stereo with CD for the $250 you saved. (You can't get a CD player on a base model anyway).
It looks like this: LB Ext. Cab 4x4, cloth bench,
A/C (Utah desert), sliding window, dark tint, appearance package,3.73 limited slip, on/off road tires, firm ride suspension, skid plates, high capacity air cleaner, power locks, cruise, tilt steering (std) total: $23,900 (2% over invoice). I could save about $550 if I dropped the chrome stuff, but I guess I'm getting old. The factory chrome wheels look better than the alloys IMHO.
GM is very clever. They withhold certain very popular options from the base model to get people to upgrade to LS, which has all kinds of unneeded additional stuff. They do this with all their vehicles. On the Silverado, the two big options they withhold are power windows (you can still get locks), and a CD player. OK GM. My arms still work for rolling down windows, and the local stereo shop will put in a nice deck for a lot less than your goofy system with the 25 buttons that stick after 7 or 8 years. Been there, done that.
Sorry for the long post, but if the dealers don't stock what you want, just order it. Eventually they'll get the picture or lose market share, which is where GM is at right now.......
Kevin
I prefer the factory radio, even if, like everything else, there are after market options to save you money, or give you different features.
And if you don't need the LS features, that's fine, but I like them, especially insta-trac, tow/haul. Not necessary for everyones personal need for security or comfort. That's why we have choices.
But whatever problems GM has with its customers, market share in light trucks and SUV segment is not one of them.
I suspect these transmissions held up better behind a 5.0 than they did behind a 5.7.
Only time will tell what the durability of this transmission is in this application.
So far, I'm happy with the 4.8L 5 speed combination. Plenty of power, fully loaded (6500 lbs) and at high altitude (over 7000') I have to downshift for big hills, but I'm not complaining. Like you, I like the fuel economy of this combination. 15.5 with my camper and 20+ empty.
Scott, you will like the new truck. I hope you have better luck with the manual trans this time.
Mike
Any comments would be appreciated. I plan to use the truck for light use ie, driving to work etc.
Storch i am very good friends with a salesman talk to him everyday you dont get to choose the color of the flare they must have been painted by the dealer. I dont care think what u want i know for a fact.
Ryan
If you don't plan on towing; on the highway the truck runs great with the 4.8, I live in the Rockies and 3rd gear wins on the passes. The 4.8 likes to rev and you can still get 20 mpg on the road. It's to bad that Gm hasn't spent the effort to refine it. leos1
Storch-how did those blue flares look?
any suggestions would be appreciated
thanks
kyle
also, the bushwacker flares I got are the extended flares, they are the same width as the factory flares 2 1/4 in front, 2" rear.
thanks
AKA...2500
- Tim
KANTON: hey man did u order your indigo blue LT? If u did how long did it take you to get it in? My salesman told me i need to order before march now since i am getting an LT and i would like to have it by July. I think i could handle the extra wait though. Please let me know.
HEY no one has answered my question about the 2000 Z71 sitting higher up in the back whats up with this no one knows?????????????????
Thanks everyone
Ryan
My truck is in today for the back seat noise - it seems to be getting worse. Hopefully they have a fix for it now.
It's been a long day.....and if I'm not mistaken..
...My 2500 DOES have aluminum rims?.....better design pattern too.
Get the LT.....you won't regret it....especially if you plan on an LS with a lot of options.
- Tim
Ryan
Z71 sticker or the 4 x 4 sticker, I removed my Z71 sticker, my experience with stickers: they either peal or chip...so then how do you repair it? And if you do finally decide to remove it after a couple of years when the paint underneth is like new......you will see an outline of "Z71"...that would be ugly! Oh, forgot about having that nice leftover wax that is usually around your sticker unless you spend a whole lot of time getting it off.
Rims, hate all factory wheels for two reasons: 1) every other Tom Dick & Harry has the same ones you do .....I do not wish to look like the fruit loop next to me at the stop light. 2) they usually only make the rim size 7" wide.....now you are limited on the size tire you might wish to put on.
Z71 sticker or the 4 x 4 sticker, I removed my Z71 sticker, my experience with stickers: they either peal or chip...so then how do you repair it? And if you do finally decide to remove it after a couple of years when the paint underneth is like new......you will see an outline of "Z71"...that would be ugly! Oh, forgot about having that nice leftover wax that is usually around your sticker unless you spend a whole lot of time getting it off.
Rims, hate all factory wheels for two reasons: 1) every other Tom Dick & Harry has the same ones you do .....I do not wish to look like the fruit loop next to me at the stop light. 2) they usually only make the rim size 7" wide.....now you are limited on the size tire you might wish to put on.
-powerisfun
kyle
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Kevin
My LS has every single option available on any of the Z71's minus the electric and leather, and heated sideviews. It has virtually every other option. Would not have bought it any other way.
I am glad I didn't get the LT. What a rip that somebody has to special order a truck to get all the options minus a couple. You can't even order and LT minus the options you don't want. You have to order the LS and "add" the ones you do want. This would have been way more expensive but I flat told my dealer that they would get me the LS loaded up with all the things I want for the same price as the LT minus the options I didn't want or I wouldn't buy.
I got my truck for $27,400 out the door. That was 250 over invoice. Sticker was $30,800
My nosey question was for ryanbab, but your answer was interesting as well. Working full-time (or nearly so) AND going to school full-time, is pretty impressive. I had to work to pay for college as well, but luckily my parents let me live at home for a very low rent so part-time work (20-24 hrs/week) was enough to barely get by and still get good grades. I drove a beat-up '77 Nova (this was in '86-'90) that was my Dad's second car. Anyway, good luck!
-powerisfun
Kanton it wasnt nosey its cool im sure alot of people think oh my god when i tell them i am ordering a silverado in march. Anymore questions???? haha
Ryan
I finally got my truck after about... 4 months.
Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Regular Cab LS Sportside
5.3 liter V8 in Indigo Blue.
Just getting it broken in now...
YEEEEEEHHAAAAAAAA
~TEABOY~
And guys...who cares how much we all make??...I don't feel it's a good way to judge people.
I know...all we asked was what Ryan does...and he told us more...But let's keep $$$$ out of this for Income. I don't care what you make...If you are social here....Good enough for me!
- The Every Other Froot Loop Tim
4 Guys...with a hoist..indoors...7 Hours to put on a set of boards and box boards!
4 brackets per side for the main cab boards...2 brackets per side for the box boards. 14 Holes in the Rocker panels...4 holes in the mid frame...and 8 holes in the bed cross frame in the rear to hold the box boards on. What a trip of Fun!
Got done at 12:30....got some grub...and now home and getting ready to hit the rack.
They look awesome....they are built like a brick SHi......
Cab boards are solid as a rock....box boards hang from two massive brackets....they could be tighter...but without a 3rd center bracket...i don't know how it's going to happen? they move a tiny bit with my tubby [non-permissible content removed] on them....let's hope they don't loosen more??
I was going to leave the S.S.mud flaps off the front...but I know the boards will be loaded with frozen slush if I don't put them on.
Gotta screw them on and do some final tweaking of the boards for alignment tomorrow.
I'll have pics soon for any one who cares.
Sorry to be a pest....I'm happy to see this happen..if you are not....well....uhh....good for you!
LOL
hehheheeee
- Tim
Then it hit me..
2 of the brackets also attatch to the cab bolts as well as the rocker....and uhh...well....I kinda forgot to re-tighten the Cab bolts!
DOOHHHHH!!!
That would have made for an Intersting day down the line!
I gotta get the heck outa here.
Gonna be one tired pup!
- Tim
Can anyone tell me at what point I can't make changes without cancelling and reordering?
Kevin
Kevin
Kevin
It is now part of the GM BuyPower site and you can build almost any GM vehicle and print out your results. As before, no invoice prices, but they are readily available from several sites.
I just went through it and built a 3/4 ton Silverado Base and LS and a 3/4 ton GMC SL and SLE. It is not perfect, but it works better than the other sites I have tried.
Some curiosities - The GMC comes with the upscale seat with fold down center armrest w/storage on the base model. But you cannot get power door locks or cruise control unless you opt for the rubber floor covering and Chevy style base seat w/o fold down center.
Mike
Ryan
-powerisfun
Who said they don't take you serious?
Lots of kids now days get new cars.
it's like they are too easy to afford now?..or the younger crowd just can't drive used?
Oh well
what do I care?....got mine.
Hey!
I seen a cool New style silverado on the road yesterday with a cool cap.....the I realized..that ain't no Silverado...it was a Burb or a tahoe?
By the time I looked back it was too late to see which one.
Looked good in all Red.
Don't know if that was a production?....or just many of the test vehicles that are around the Metro Area?
- Tim
You asked if GM is still building my ZX3 this week. I called the customer service people with my six character order code, just yesterday, and they said it is still scheduled for this week. I will post when I know more.
Sounds like your situation is not going so well, wish I knew what to tell them. Certainly, you could tell them what you know others are doing.
mannwi,,,,,that is in Wisconsin
POWERISFUN i wasnt being defensive but u know how some people are think you are made of money and stuck up and im not like that regular middle class. Tell u the truth right now my engineering internship is kind of boring and i am thinking of changing my majors a yr and a half into college. Hard decisions keep working make the money or be happy and switch i am close to switching and if this happens i might postpone ordering the truck a few months. So u can tell what takes precedence in my life.
Ryan
they are just totally awesome looking, of course they were 4 wheel drive, but they look awesome!!!!!
-powerisfun
As for Tahoes/Suburbans, I got to sit in and mess around in some new ones this summer at an open house at GM's Milford Proving Grounds. I thought they were VERY sweet!! Of course, I already was a big fan of the trucks. Saw a Burb driving around Metro Detroit last month too.
Kevin