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Toyota can't make Trucks Thats for sure!!!
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-powerisfun
trucks and they don't guzzle gas. I am also
fond of the Ranger, but I think it eats up
too much gas for it's, what I consider to
be weak 4.0L. The Toyota 3.4L puts out 30 more
H.P. but only gives up 5 pounds of torque but
also gives up .6L of displacement and a considerable amount of weight. Oh there is
nothing wrong with being a hick, it's just
he wasn't trying to see a better truck.
By the way, the following vehicles are made in the USA; Tacoma, Corolla, (Sienna, Avalon, Camry are made in Georgetown KY) That is probably why they are a bit pricey too. My cousin makes 45,000 a year for operating a spraygun!!
Chevy silverado is only 3" wider. Hold out 3 fingers, that's how much "bigger" it is. The silv is 9" longer. That's about half the length of your keyboard. The bed is the same and the interiors are almost identical in legroom. The extra inches in the silv are consumed by a poor engine/tranny layout. In essence Toyota made the same size bed and interior yet shaved wasted space from the front end while putting in a more powerful standard engine than chevy. Look at the silv engine compartment. It has tubes and hoses running randomly about the engine as if they were afterthoughts. The way the components are haphazardly arranged makes it difficult to believe much planning went into the details. By stark comparison; the Tundra engine compartment is neat, orderly and shows real attention to detail. (i.e. the windshield fluid container takes exactly one gallon, clear path to all spark plugs, etc.) My dad's 74 chevy was a good truck, he's very disapointed with the poor quality of his newer chev.
would have gotten one!by the way the shop i work at has a 96 chevy 2500 4wd with the "mighty" vortech 255 h.p engine and man is that thing slow!
no fun drving that one.....oh and the ride well don't even try to compare it to the tundra.
(just the facts)
Merry Christmas to all no matter what you drive...And have a safe and happy New Year!
Merry Christmas
Answer this one here, if them toys be all that, how come there be now such thing as a classic toyota? Good luck on this one now!
Happy Holidays
The reliability of US-made trucks has increased dramatically over the past few decades and now the differences are slight. Ultimately we have all benefitted from competetion as such.
and not to mention all of the other things that
have plagued this truck......my boss is now thinking of trading this jem in now!
oh bye the way his wifes 98 4-runner has been
flawless and with more miles on it than the chevy!
As for Chevy's having a reputation for having shotty build quality,I think this guys read too many Toymota ads.I am not saying one should dismiss Toymotas without a look,I am just saying that in the grand scheme of things,any truck you buy is more than likely going to be very good,and we shouldn't be putting down any brand,it is kinda like putting someone down,for the brand of shoes they wear.
And the guy who compared a 95 or 96 Chev to the new Tundra....come on, make a fair comparison, like a new Chevy, Ford or Dodge against the Tundra. Your comparison is like comparing a 96 T100 against a new Silverado.
Anyone who thinks Toyota builds an inferior product really isn't paying attention to the facts.
Born In Oklahoma, Stewart grew up in San Diego. His love for off-road racing began In high school when he started riding dune buggies. Following graduation, Stewart married his high school sweetheart and took a job in construction, while he maintained racing as a hobby.
In 1973, he began working with owner-driver Bill Hrynko, to build and maintain Hrynko's off-road buggie. He also served as a co-driver until Hrynko broke his leg, giving the "lronman" the chance to drive. Stewart won his first race and continued to win with various grassroots efforts before joining Toyota's factory-sponsored team in 1983.
In his first two years behind the wheel of his PPI-prepared race truck in the Mickey Thompson Off-Road Stadium Racing Series, Stewart clinched consecutive driver's championships in the Grand National Sport Truck Class(GNST). He earned a third championship in 1990. Only his former teammate Rod Millen has been able to match that feat with three consecutive titles in 1992, 1993 and 1994.
Together with his teammates, Stewart played an important role in Toyota's 11 manufacturer's championships and 42 main event victories in the 12-year history of the stadium series - nearly three times more than any other truck team. Although Toyota did not return to the stadium series in 1995, Stewart will always hold the record for all- time event wins in the GNST class with 17.
In addition to stadium competition, Stewart drove one of two trucks for Toyota in the mini- and mid-size pickup class in the desert during the 1983 and 1984 seasons. In less than two years, he claimed six class victories, including two SCORE World Championships. When Toyota moved to the Unlimited Class in 1985, he became the only driver for the team's single entry.
Stewart claimed Toyota's first Baja 1000 victory in 1993. That win clinched his second SCORE Overall and Unlimited Class series championships, matching his 1990 record as the only driver in the series history to earn both titles in the same year. In addition, Toyota became the only truck team in history to sweep the "Crown Jewels" of desert racing -- Nevada 400, Baja 500 and Baja 1000 -- in the same season.
Entering his 27th year in off-road racing and 17th year with Toyota, Stewart has amassed 83 career victories and eight driver's championships. Included in these wins are Seventeen Baja 500s, eight Mint 400s, four Parker 400s and Three Baja 1000s. He earned the nickname "lronman" for his numerous solo victories in the two Baja races.
Happy New Year!!!
Second: Why do we care?
Third: I would think a guy named "rs petty" really should be a NASCAR fan.......
just a thought.............
Desert racing is the hardest racing on a truck. Hot and dry temps, all the dirt and rocks, etc. The trucks experience all these obstacles at very high rates of speed offroad. Lots and lots of breakages. I hate to admit it, but the Toyota's have been more durable and finished more races, with the Ford and Chevy's not being able to finish because of breakages.
That is not to imply that Toyota builds any more reliable truck or car over the domestics. Everyone knows that the parts used on race trucks are about as much brand specific as a heinz 57 dog is a purebred.....Each truck just has their team sponsor stuck to the outside.
Toyota Racing Development does do some things right though, at least in the Baja races.
It's probably even more fair to compare the Toyota Indy cars to Ford Cosworth and Chevy Ilmor. Toyota has had their butt kicked for years in the Cart series.
You can't compare showroom floor import and domestic trucks to those raced in the Baja's. No comparison. Same with Ford and Chevy at the Nascar races.
mviglianco1:
You don't know what you are missing. Nascar is watched by and holds more enthusiasts than any sport, including baseball (the American Sport) and Football. That is fact.
No offense, but could your dislike of Nascar be due to Toyota not having a presence in Nascar? Toyota's V8 is a totally new concept for Toyota. Until recently, Toyota has been marketing trucks in the US to the needs of the Japanese in their own country (Admitted by Toyota in many reports and recorded conversations). They have not had much knowledge of and have not built\marketed trucks to the American economy, thus no V8 and smaller cab space, etc. They felt their strong industry was always in smaller trucks for more economy. Japan actually sells very little of their pickups for personal use in Japan. If a work truck is needed, they use Isuzu diesel trucks and the like.
Now they are getting on the wagon, but who's V8 is it actually??? Toyota or Lexus? Toyota is a good truck, but still not quite engineered for the American need. Maybe in 2001 or 2002, they will build the cabs a little bigger, the beds a little deeper, etc.
Not knocking the Toyota. They are a good truck too if that is the market of truck you are wanting. It's just my observation that they need to be a little bigger and offer some of the full size truck amenities if they should be taken seriously as a full size truck.
Don't take this as a slam on the Tundra. It is not meant to be. I don't think anyone is brand loyal due to Nascar. It has been said several times here that Nascar cars and trucks have GM, Ford and, Dodge (trucks only) sponsorship, but the engines and parts are engineered individually based on Nascar regulations and have very little to do with the manufacturers that sponsor them.
I drive a Chevy Silverado. Am I brand loyal? No. I prefer to buy American if the American product is of the same quality for the same or less cost, but I have no problem buying an Import if it provides a cost or quality benefit. I have owned both import and domestic vehicles. I just don't see any reliability difference between the two these day's and the Imports are more costly, both initially and in repairs\maintenance along the way.
Enjoy your truck. There is nothing wrong with a Tundra. It's just not the only truck out there and not everyones "preference".
I just feel that I have a little more of an open mind about vehicles due to the fact that my parents had no specific brand loyalty and I dont follow NASCAR. My only loyalty to Toyota stems from one of my first vehicles being an older model pickup that I put through hell and it never let me down and is still going strong for my dad.
Tacomas are good trucks too. Again, just not what I was in the market for when I bought.
Later.
And when you think about it, what form of recreational consumption isn't?
No need to back away from it, you hit the mark.
(Jeff Gordon still kicks butt, but without Ray Evernham and the mutinous Yates crew, he's down on the mat for a while.)
Happy NewYear
I resemble that living room remark! I once considered buying a tire used by my wife's favorite NASCAR driver. I suggested that we could make a coffee table out of the tire by putting a round piece of glass (1/2" Thick) on the tire. I was joking, her comment was "Well, maybe if we had a rec room in the house."
Rich