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How do you bend a truck frame going back and forth to the grocery store? Please enlighten me, I'm just a Yankee yuppie.
By the way, the V8 in a standard cab 2x2 would have a hard time keeping the tires on the road. just too light for that much power.
As far as the "5 to 1 topic problems for the Big 3 VS the Tundra", what do you expect when the Tundra is "expected" to make 100K units vs GM's 1M? The same problem is just being reported by 10 times more owners.
Cliffy1, any more news on the "official" date for the Sequoia?
The Sequoia will be out in October. That is the official launch date but we will probably have them a month sooner.
Well I was worried about why a brand new tire would have blown and took it to NTB the next day. They said that they would cover it under warr. if if was a warr. situation. We got it off the rim and found that apparently something imbedded in the road had torn a 6 inch gash right below the tread pattern on the inside of the tire. I was glad as I was worried about having a batch of defective tires. 100 bucks later we are back on the road.
All in all I have to give my Tundra high marks for stability and control with a loss of a tire in icy rain. Still the best truck I have ever owned.
One funny comment. Before we found out what happend I was of course getting the ribbing from my buddies that apparently my new "Japanese" truck couldn't last 5K miles without breaking etc. Well my reply was simple of all the things to go wrong on my Japanese truck, the American tire blew out. I am not a brand loyal kinda guy but I do love the ribbing.
BTW no problems changing the tire. I don't like bottle jacks and I hate assembling that stupid erector set rod out of like 200 pieces but all in all everything worked as it should and I do like the fact that the jack takes up so little room.
A co-worker has a 98 Silverado. He's on the second auto tranny in 15,000 miles and it's now acting up in a manner similar to the first failure. His dealer is trying to stick it to him. he has a stack of maintenance receipts documenting this truck's failures. He's leasing it and can't wait to turn it back in. Someone, unfortunately, will be buying this "lease return" and inheriting the problems.
Today I'm test driving a Tundra. Thanks to all of your posts I've all but eliminated the big three during my selection process. will there be problems? Sure. It's only a machine and man has never made anything that lasts. I do think, however, that Toyota has done a credible job in designing vehicles that perform as advertised, with a minimun of failures. The other topics prove this. My real problem is that in the coming months Toyota is coming up with the 4Dr, and other changes, and my quandry is should I wait or buy now? A 4 dr Tacoma? The Tundra extended cab? TRD/no TRD? SR5 or Limited? Decisions, decisions.
I've read a lot of complaints about Tundra's lack of "options". The vehicle I drove was well equipped for my taste. I don't know what more anyone would want. Leather seats? Buy a Lexus. A rugged vehicle that seems able to do the job, and which independent testers/reviewers feel will do the job, buy the Tundra. It's well built, backed by a company with a reputation for reliability, with what appears to be a bullet proof driveline. But that's only my opinion after months of research. When I do buy I'll pass on my experiences.
How could 25 pounds (weight of receiver hitch) change the EPA rating. The EPA does not test trucks towing a load so this makes no sense.
Your "story" was funny and a pleasure to read, but very a typical statement from Toyota owners when talking about any vehicle without a Toyota emblem.
I don't think anyone will buys your story nor wait will they for the novel.
Glad you like your Tundra. Only a Toyota has ever left me walking. Had 2 GM cars bought new and many GM trucks both new and used. None of the GM trucks have ever stranded me like the 3 Toyota's I have owned. Especially since GM has the strongest transmission line in the business dating all the way back to the Turbo 400.
I find it hilarious that Toyota owners are so quick to find fault in GM vehicles when GM and Toyota share engineering design teams. You probably hate to hear that GM may just have helped engineer your flawless Tundra and you don't even know it.
I have had a Toyota in the past and it was great.
I have a Mitsubishi Eclipse that I really love but it has had many problems in it's 42,000 miles.
I had a Pontiac Sunfire that needed a new engine after 42,000 miles.
Each have had their problems, in fact my Tacoma caught on fire while I was driving down the road (It was a freak accident of a cardboard piece getting stuck underneath between the bed and the cab and sitting on top of the hot pipes).
I'm not bitter at all, but you seem to HATE Toyota so much.
You know as well as I that they are USUALLY very reliable cars and trucks. No one here will convince me otherwise. The Tundra may have some quirks, but I know that the engine will most likely be very reliable for a very long time because it is a Toyota engine.. They are built to last. (Ya go ahead and tell me the story abou the guy on here that his Tundra broke down, but everywhere you go there will be a lemon).
Why are you here on the Tundra topics if you drive a Chevy anyway??? What's the point?
Cliffy, any truth to any of this???
BLD, at the risk of getting you riled up again, I need to correct something you stated. Toyota did NOT use GM in the design of the Tundra. I got this straight from a Toyota engineer. Toyota does share a plant with GM in CA. That plant makes the Prism/Corolls and the Tacoma. GM may have had something to do with the assembly line but certainly not with the design. Get your facts straight man.
By the way, did you read the Fortune magazine editorial calling on GM to sell its auto manufacturing arm to Toyota? Seems Wall Street has more faith in Toyota than GM when it comes to building and marketing cars.
I will however post the citation and title. I have no link to this article but you should be able to find it.
How to Fix GM: Sell It to Toyota
Toyota General Motors would be a well-managed company worth investing in.
Geoffrey Colvin
03/06/2000
Fortune Magazine Time Inc.
(Copyright 2000)
The Toyota's are just as prone to failures as any other make. Some of the "honest" Tundra owners have disclosed many of the Tundra's skeletons. Most Tundra owners live with their head in the clouds and their thumbs up their _ss.
Hmmmmm. I have even bought used and abused GM trucks as "strictly work trucks", put them through tests of tow and payload that most would never consider with their trucks. Never had an engine or a transmission failure in 16+ years.
Had three brand new Toyota's, 2 blew head gaskets, 1 chewed up 3 flywheels and 2 starters and then needed an engine overhaul too. All of these had the first problem with less than 40k miles on the odometer. Nice Toyota quality.
Naaaaw, I think I'll keep my ugly, unreliable, rattling, vibrating, cheap interior parts Silverado (I think that covers all the cheezy, whiny Tundra owner comments)....:)
GM has more money than any other auto make, hands down. GM could buy Toyota 10 times over and still have money for new designs. Gimme a break!
There has got to be more here than just the fact that you own a GM truck. Surely no one gets that spun up about a truck.
I have owned two of Toyota's so-called flawless trucks. Wasn't all that impressed and I paid way too much for a lot less truck. Thing I am most embarrassed of is that I did it TWICE! I had GM's for heavy loads, etc. and bought the Tacoma's as daily drivers for gas mileage, occasional offroad and yes, I bought into the hype about higher reliability crapola. The Tacomas weren't even more reliable as daily drivers with absolutely no work duty performed. I quickly found that my GM's have always been more reliable, cost less, have more available options, and have much more payload and tow abilities regardless of what the marketing ploys state.
Naaaaw, its one of the big three for me from now on.
Ford - The sales leader and this says alot. They make a good truck most of the time and generally sell at a reasonable price. Ford is also aggressively trying to gain market share and as of late they seem to realize that comes from quality designs and service.
GM- To big for there own good. The pushrod god though now doubt about it. They need to lean down and get back to basics. They have finally designed a superior truck in almost all areas, engine, brakes, gadgets etc. They just need to tighten up on that quality control and make sure more of them come out rock solid.
Dodge- DC makes some of the prettiest cars and trucks on the road and has some of the best ideas. Seems like they are even starting to catch up to the rest of them in the technology dept. I here the 4.7 is dream and that the newer engines coming out based on it will be great. Problem is it seems like DC cuts costs to the consumer by cutting quality control way back. As a rule it seems that you take the biggest gamble of getting a lemon with the DC products. Again this is just what I have seen and researched. If they tighten up there quality maybe with MB's help and start dumping that new engine tech in their vehicles, they will be a force to be reckoned with.
Toyota- The new kid on the block to be sure. Toyota and Honda both are known for their quality controls. It is not that they design or make a better truck or car it just seems that they have more stringent controls as to what actually ends up getting sold to the customer. In my exper. I have talked to more people who have had problems actually resolved by Toyota then people I have talked to with problems with the domestics. Can you still get a Toyota Lemon? Of course. Take Krobertson for example. Poor guy had his engine pretty much eat itself. At least his dealership took care of him. I think Toyota as a company dropped the ball on this one, but his dealership backed him up. I'd buy from them.
I could continue to bore everybody but I won't. There are industry trends that cannot be ignored. Toyota and Honda are known to do it right the first time, Ford can make a truck, You wanna race get yourself something with a GM motor, You want it pretty and to go from design to market quick DC are your guys. That is just the way the industry seems to be today.
The best thing is though with more and more global competition everybody has to make a better product almost every year or simply fade away. Sort of increases your chances of getting something great instead of a lemon.
The only companies that come to my mind when I think tonneau are A.R.E, Covercraft and Snugtop.
I would like to know everybody's experiences with any tonneau's you have or have had in the past. I am really just trying to learn about the products and quality in general so whether you drive, Tundra or anything else feel free to contribute.
I tend not to like the looks of what I have seen from A.R.E. I figure in order to get a nice cover, painted to match and put on I will be looking at a ballpark of about a grand. Is this far of base?
Thanks for any advice.
Thanks for the info. I will check out Leer's site. $800 is not too too bad.
Have you heard anything more on the Sequoia pricing from a dealers/salesmans point of view. My wife may be in the market.
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