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The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
My neighbor 3 houses down has the same exact vehicle but his white is the plain white while mine has the pearlized white, a $500 option. Go back to dealership and find out that the original owner bought it but returned it for the next level Escape, Titanium or something like that, so no issues with this vehicle. I like this ute...I really like it. They mention they can add leather for about $1600 which I decline. They give me a figure on my Civic, $6500. They send over the "closer" guy and we spar a bit. Finally, I get a bit angry and say, "give me a price otd with my car and cash" and then I have to go. He comes back and of course, I say "no way", I'm going with the Buick Verano. Then he goes with the "what will it take to drive this home today" routine and I start to get up and go. He asks me what I want. Tell him to come up a grand on my trade and we'll talk. After about 10 minutes, comes back with a "my car, $17.2k cash plus ttl". Tell him I need to think about this as by now, I have numbers flying all over my head and I need to just back away and process it all.
Today, they are running ads about a free tablet with every vehicle sold this weekend and text with my sales guy and find out that they have 40 tablets to give away. Tell him that if he can do the above deal but take $16.8k cash, we have a deal. He says to come in tomorrow, they open at 6 a m, and I said sure if I don't have to work. Truthfully, I really love this Escape, it's got the power seat that I really want, the back up camera and the nicer paint, white over sandstone, it's really beautiful. And that's where we stand...if they accept my $16.8k offer, that's $400 less, this could work. Might even tell them $16.7k and we have a deal.
Just not 100% here...but I am 95% sure I want this vehicle!!! Like it a bit better than the Verano, and the Buick is really very cool. I am finally ready, can't believe I am saying this, I AM FINALLY READY TO LET THE CIVIC GO! Of course, the amp is coming out and the alloys are being swapped for the steelies. I can put the amp in the Escape later and resell the alloys on Ebay. So folks, am I frickin' nuts or what??? Do I get up at 6 a m and go buy a car??? Weird thing here...this just feels right! Me and a Ford...wow!!!
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
So, tomorrow at this time, I might be the owner, or be in contract, for a white 2014 Ford Escape SE. I would not take the vehicle home till the end of the week, as there are things to swap out of it and insurance to have swapped. I never take a vehicle home the same night...ever! Need for them to make sure the alignment is straight and true also. Also need to move the funds out of one account and put in another so I can pay them. Will also check out financing of a small portion of it if the rates are great as we have top tier credit, owe no one except current bills right now.
Maybe I am nuts here, maybe I am. We shall see!!!
The crazy Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
And if we can't make a deal, I'm cool with that to...I can wait and not feel deprived one bit here. We will see tomorrow. If they will accept the $16.7k number, it's history!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I may yet spend Black Friday looking at a couple of cars...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I'd even drive it around for you so the tires wouldn't get flat spots.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Hopefully I will sleep well tonight...it'll be a good sign if I do actually as right now, I am good with this decision...I am really good!
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Keep in mind that 'short' term loans (and long of course..both) are an amortized schedule. It is unlikely to come out ahead, if you plan to pay it back in the shorterm cuz next to zero gets applied on the principle for the first year+.
So if you have the same funds in an interest bank acct or even a GIC..(depending on premature cash-out penalty if GIC) I'd use those before going for the loan. Even with great credit, it's unlikely to get a cheap loan on a used car that is not manufacturer initiated. Even in those cases..cash discounts (if you have those negotiating skills) usually rule out 0% if the purchaser has the money in the bank to pay cash and drive away.
Good luck..and don't get too fussed about it "maybe not still being there" cuz of Black Friday. They are not giving that thing away given the price you mentioned unless it's the AWD 2.0 version which is unlikely in FL.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
I know this is a benchmark purchase, and been a while coming, but just don't let all that show to them.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
A caveat, if you end up going with your initial urges to buy, remember, the dealership may have certain fees or add-ons up their sleeves to insert in the deal. So, don't get caught.
That often happens to me as well- and I usually succumb to the Gearhead Demon and buy whatever I was considering...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Hardly ever regret pulling the trigger either though.
Is my price realistic here? They just called...told internet lady we are $1000.00 apart...I will do it for $16k or a little more. Don't want to waste anymore time here! Do $16k, I will buy tonight!
The Sandman :sick:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Don't know how they're working things now in Fl. with your license, but where I now live, I always try to take advantage of the end of the month sale price, but delay a day or two till the first of the following month. They still tend to work it like the end of the month deal, but I get a full 12 months service out of our (expensive) license plate compared to 11 mos. if I had taken delivery on the last day of the month.
They call me back...get here by 9 and we accept your offer, but this is "a one day only deal"! Since I hate ultimatums in any way, shape or form I let them stew a couple of hours. Finally tell them the wife won't drive it, which is true, and I do prefer a sedan for us, right now...I prefer the Verano so sorry. And hey, if the deal is good "yesterday", it should be good "today"! I just hate ultimatums like that and it pushes me in the other direction every time. So as of now, no new vehicle yet. No calls either on the Civic so I will go look at the Rogue, the Outlander SE and some Subaru's and see what feels most comfortable here, as I really want to sell the Civic first if possible and then buy.
Am I "nuts" here...don't think so. After sleeping on the Escape, I didn't "love it" so much anymore to be honest but if they came back at anything under $16k for it, I might have jumped but am sure there are smaller ute's out there and I will find one. And trust me, it's raining here today, I bet that escape is still on the lot right now. And if not...it wasn't meant to be!
The Happy Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
They gave me $50,000 for my 2014 E 350 (paid $57,890 for it this past April).
Color is Palladium Silver (light gray), black premium leather interior with accented gray stitching, walnut wood, Premium Package (includes full LED headlights with adaptive controlled cornering lamps and full LED daytime running lights) PARKTRONIC self parking and front and rear sensors, 19" AMG wheel package, wheel locks, rear spoiler, air-suspension system, power contour driver 'a seat with massage functions, lane tracking and blind spot monitoring system, fold-down rear seats, rear power sunscreen and side window sunscreens, air-cooled front seats, adaptive ride control, to name a few.
Definitely more of a stable and S Class ride. It has a bi-turbo V8 402 hp engine with 460 lb ft of torque - really moves - 0-60 on about 4.9 seconds.
Sound system (Harman-Karmin 640 watt 14 speaker system w logic 7 surround sound) is truly awesome.
Mark me down for 2 this year.
2021 Genesis G90
of course, last week when you mentioned looking at one, I thought you didn't care for it. But, what do I know?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Be aware of a couple of things.
Those alloys add zero value to your car and probably won't bring much of anything on Craigslist. Your salesperson was correct. Shoppers prefer the stock look. Window tinting for example makes used cars saleproof except in very hot climates.
They will push you HARD to take delivery the day you do the deal. Your insurance automatically rolls over and they won't care if they have to wait a couple of days to get funded.
The reason is, until a car is physically delivered and actually "rolls" the customer can reneg and unwind the deal which will happen in at least 50% of cases.
Good Luck!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
The Sandman
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
short version: Looking forward to details. I assume you traded Civic. You deserved it, and really should be looking out for your back, and I know from experience that a low-slung small car + a bad back = problems!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I shot her an email back with my thoughts on them (and a few other suggestions of course) and ballpark of what I had seen as advertised leases. Also gave her some advice on how to attack the search.
got a note back late Saturday that she got a deal done. Turns out she did not like the Altima (seats?) but did like the Elantra. So she did what I suggested (hit all the local dealers to haggle the best deal, though I have no idea how much haggling went on, vs. just asking for their best price!). Then she went back to her close by dealer, asked them to match the low offer, which they did. Could she have gotten lower? Maybe, but these manufacturer lease deals are pretty skinny to start with, and after 5 dealers, what could possibly be on the table, $10/mo?
didn't get any of the terms (did not ask) but did learn that it is red!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Purchased this time, picked up a Sunburst orange Civic SI, sticker was $23,505, got it for $19,377 + taxes/fees was a shade under $22K (CA taxes and fees are way too big) OTD. Got the 0.9% financing from Honda.
Absolutely LOVE this car, have put almost 1000 miles on it in the first week, hope this one is finally my ticket on the train out of CCB-land. ;-)
And on a related note, I am down to only two cars in the driveway (would never part with my Soob), and for the first time in a quarter century don't own a single Toyota. Not sure when or if I will ever be going back to Yota, they just utterly fail to inspire or even to design and build the cars well these days.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Thanks, Brad. There are just times when people you know in the car business make you an offer you just can't refuse. This was one of those times. When they are willing to give up their hold-back, sell you a car at dead invoice, coupled with a USAA $3500 voucher, it becomes a once in a lifetime experience.
Car handles and rides like no other car I have ever owned. Power is awesome. Fit and finish are flawless. Has a heavier feel and every option and convenience imaginable. Dad have me $5000 toward the car as a Hanukkah gift.
Thanks again everyone for the well-wishes.
2021 Genesis G90
Congrats to new owners \ leasers !
- Ray
No punch this long weekend ...
No big deal - just curious...
- Ray
Probably not in the running
for the grand prize....
[ an official CCBA bumber sticker?
We are at 29 for the year - for comparison, there were 25 documented punches for 2012.
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Congratulations, Sandy. I read over all your posts for the past week or so, and it sounds like (reads like) you did your homework and carefully checked all the variables prior to your purchase.
If I did it the way you did, I'd probably never have bought another car. It's the "spur of the moment" excitement that grabs me by my hair (and my wallet) to my Mercedes Benz Dealer. Definitely need to see a psychiatrist after this one.
Enjoy the new wheels - hopefully we can get together for coffee stop at a local Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts (prefer the latter, between you and me) and compare notes.
2021 Genesis G90
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Congrats to all you new owners -- inspiring -- even more so since it isn't my money,[wink !]
One quick question though. Since I bought, the wife is getting a bit, shall we say...jealous now! So,if she also purchases, does that count for our grand total as I will be involved in some of the process. Only seems fair that it does since it is "my stable"...I can see if one of my kids got one that it wouldn't count but the wife getting one? This is in that "gray area" that I love so much so who gets to decide the answer here??? Me, a few of us, the hosts? Curious to know the answer here because I gotta good hunch that we'll have a complete new lineup in my garage come December 31st!
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Congrats on the new ride - I think you'll be a lot happier with the slide in height on this one (or at least your back will).
Since I'm the one who first starting tracking 'punches' as well as instituting the 'punch guess list', I'll outline what does and does not count.
If the punch is for someone who lives at your house, then it counts. Earlier this year, kyfdx got a BMW X3 for his wife, and it's on the list.
However, if my son in CA gets a new car, it doesn't count as he doesn't live at my address.
Think about the punches breld has had this year trying to find the right car for his step-daughter.
BTW, congrats on the punch. What color did you get?
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