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Would anyone have any thoughts on this subject?
Note that some dealers may ask for $500 or more for documentation. And this is mostly profit. In Maryland, the dealers have established a maximum DOC fee of $100.
LE 4 Cyl Auto with Carpet Mats:
MSRP $21,357
Invoice $19,801
LE 4 cyl Auto with JBL Stereo, Alloy Wheels, Sunroof, Carpet Mats, and Vehicle Stability
MSRP $24,357
Invoice $22,151
XLE V-6 with Smart Key, Heated Seats, Vehicle Stability, and Carpet Mats
MSRP $29,917
Invoice $27,363
Thanks
I'm considering '07CE auto with VSC, and I wonder whether how available this will be.
Last year I bought a car for my wife, a lot of options are packaged together so that I could either get no option or almost everything (just like the 2nd LE you posted here). I ended up getting one with lots of optional stuff, and this time i want to get one with no extra stuff.
also, if this VSC thing is the best thing since sliced bread, then how come this is not a standard?
The engine in yours, under the new rating system, would probably be making about 151 or 152 horses. The '07 does make 158 horses, SAE certified. Compared to your '02, the '07 also has a 5 speed automatic, and in the 5A 4 cylinders that I've driven compared to my mom's 4A 4 cylinder (also an '02), I've found it *feels* sprightlier.
Personally, I found the interior of the '07 more attractive than the '02 as well, and the Optitron guages are crisper and richer looking than in the '02 to boot.
As a final point, I too was disappointed that the '07 didnt receive more substantial power upgrades to the 2.4L. In fact, I expected that VVTi was going to be on both the intake and exhaust sides, but that was not to be. Which makes me wonder.... this might be a mid-model cycle addition, once the Accord and Altima are redesigned.
~alpha
Standard 7 airbags, tire pressure monitor, mp3/aux..
Still CE and LE manual MSRP dropped. Wow.
CE manual : $18,270 ($175, 0.9% down)
LE manual : $19,450 ($95, 0.5% down)
LE auto : $20,500 ($125, 0.6% up)
SE manual : $20,790 ($415, 2% up)
XLE : $24,425 ($1,630, 7.2% up / moonroof added)
XLE V6: $27,250 ($1,715, 6.6% up)
The percentages shown are pure price comparison and do not account for addition of equipment or deletion of equipment in some cases (like alloys on the LE V6, from my understanding).
Prices for some typically equipped models, including destination, in NON-SET states.
CE 4 5M plus floormats: $19,049
CE 4 5A plus floormats: $20,099
LE 4 5A plus floormats: $21,279
LE 4 5A plus floormats and power moonroof: $22,219
LE V6 6A plus floormats, power moonroof: $24,759
SE 4 5A plus floormats, power moonroof, rear spoiler: $23,709
SE 4 5M plus floormats, power moonroof, rear spoiler: $22,709
SE V6 6A plus floormats, power moonroof, rear spoiler: $26,234
SE V6 6A plus floormats, power moonroof, leather, JBL, rear spoiler, autodimming rearview mirror: $28,809
XLE 4 5A plus floormats and leather: $26,254
XLE V6 6A plus floormats, SmartKey, NAV: $29,949
I do wonder if VSC is indeed standard on V6 models... this might be a post Jan 9th Press Release change.
~alpha
The specs in the Jan 09 press release were termed "preliminary".
~alpha
VSC cannot be added by the dealer or anyone else.
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Mackabee
This is very spot on. Often ( always? ) Toyota leaves some room for a mid cycle update. If they shot all their cannons in one volley they'd have nothing left for the next 5 years..
This year is the year of the V6
I like the 2007 styling to be sure -- especially the interior! However, I don't care for the front end of the 2007. Would have preferred extra trunk room to reclining rear seats on XLE.
The big question in my mind is pricing between 2006 and 2007 models. 2006 XLE can be bought for $1000 below invoice. Perhaps 2007 XLS may cost close to MSRP (at least initially), but I guess only time and the market will tell. Therefore, I will be watching with great interest as to prices actually paid on 2007's.
I am still wondering how available navigation will be, or if I should just stick with my existing Garmin Street Pilot III. Also looking forward to Satellite Radio and MP3!
I put a $500 deposit on a Blue "fully loaded" V6 XLE with the following factory options: VSC, Smart key, Heated seats, Navigation and carpet/trunk mat set. My salesman called me today and said it’s $31,039.00 including $580.00 destination charge. He expects to get the car in late March. I live in the Chicago region and wondering what do I expect to realistically pay. I know I won’t get a good deal since I am in a hurry but don’t want to pay the full MSRP ($31,039.00). What's the lowest price I can pay and he'll accept.
Any advice will be appreciated and thanks in advance
toyota99
Just curious. Do you think people will have to pay close to 'sticker'(MSRP) all year? I am used to Camry's being sold based on invoice price, not MSRP.
It will be until production is at full capacity and dealers are well stocked.
When a new car is introduced several things happen,
There is a pent up demand from people who delayed purchasing so they could see the new model.
There is more interest in the new model in general.
The initial production is usually at a slow pace (probably to find and fix production problems). This often leads to each dealership getting just a few cars in the first shipment.
Combine all these things and then go out and try to buy the car while the supply is low and interest is high and you will end up paying much more than you will after the supply chain has had a chance to be filled.
Often the initial months are at or near sticker. 6-12 months later somewhat lower. Invoice sales depends a lot on the acceptance and a lot of other conditions not related to the Camry at all. If the market loves this vehicle like it did the Sienna it might be late '06 before the prices start to come down. However the Sienna was never slated to sell 450K units annually either. I am fairly certain with this new look and the increase in standard features, the new V6, the sport handling if it really is different and then the Hybrid the potential for 'holding the sizzle' - and therefore the prices - is pretty good for most of 2006.
If they can sell 450K Camrys a year at near sticker, maybe you should buy Toyota stock instead of the Camry.
2007 Camry definitely a very exciting car. With the 2007 Camry I feel as thought I am getting an Avalon or Lexus at Camry prices. With various new aspects of the 2007 Camry, maybe it will do well like the new Avalon model. Or -- on the other hand, if Camry prices are going to be high, maybe I should just buy an Avalon instead.
that wasnt what I was saying. I was actually saying the opposite... but I wasnt clear I guess. The Camry's are slated to sell in the 450K range while the Sienna's in the mid 100K range. With that great a difference in volume the Camry has to be more agressive in price, the Sienna could afford to hold on to MSRP somewhat longer.
The Camry is the heart of Toyota USA. Everything revolves around it. The market will speak and one way or another Toyota will respond to keep Camry #1.
Mackabee
Mackabee
MSRP=$31,263
Invoice=$28,112
Extra Cost Options:
CF1 - CARPET/CARGO MAT SET
DK - OWNERS PORTFOLIO
FE - 50 STATE EMISSION REQUIREMENT
HD - HEATED DRIVER/PASS FRT SEATS
NV - NAVIGATION SYSTEM
SK - SMART KEY SYSTEM
V2 - VIP GLASS BREAKAGE SENSOR
VS - VEH STABILITY/TRACTION CONTROL
WL - WHEEL LOCKS
If you prefer the new Camry, I would just wait a month or so. These are the bread and butter vehicles, so supply and demand should be balanced. The dealers close to me claim that they should be "available" by March 7. I plan waiting until May to see what pricing is being offered. If the Honda Accord is cheaper (I have a feeling that Honda will be offering some incentives), then I'll go with the Accord.
Lastly, some people mentioned paying full MSRP for the Sienna. If I read these statements correctly (its really early here in CA), this is not the case. LEs start below $22k. On the higher lines, discounts of $4k to $5k off of the MSRP are common.
The Sienna at MSRP comments pertained only to the 2003 launch when this new model came out. They were so hot there was a 6-12 week waiting list for the first 10 months. Supply only caught up with demand around Christmas of 2003.
Mackabee
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Mackabee
1. Strong torque steer
2. Transmission shifting wasn't crisp
3. Heater went from too hot to too cold.
He was careful to take into account that his test car was a pre-production model. Still, he thought any earlier buyers ought to make sure these problems were resolved.
I assume the heater problem will be fixed in production models.
Torque steer is to be expected with all that power and front wheel drive.
This is all new: V6 with 6 spd and ( according to Toyota ) half-second quicker shifts.
Also the Avy problem was one of 'searching'. In a week or two I'll see for myself.
$29,076 MSRP
Southeast Toyota add ons.
Someone earlier mentioned that, with the new Camry, you were getting a luxury car similar to the TL and Avalon at Camry prices. Looks to me that you are getting a Camry at luxury car prices!!
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