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Actually, Edmunds just tested the '05 EX SE automatic in a comparison test and recorded a 0-60 of 10.9 seconds. I know it can do better than that!
I predicted a new civic on ebay by year's end, and I am amazed at the speed. Thus a new prediction, by year's end a 2006 Civic will appear, with a minumum of 5,000 miles on it, and it will sell MSRP.
Interesting to see how much this 2006 LX sedan will go for. I personally think they are fools for asking $18,500 to start with a car that costs $19,500 out the door.
Where have you been in the last 20 years? None of the Honda's I have owned, starting with 1985 Honda Civic, you could see the hood. It is called AERODYNAMICS, if you weren't aware.
That shoudl have read ...1985 Honda Civic, you could not see the hood. It..., my bad. I should have read it before posting. That was my first comment when I switched from 1983 Chevy Celebirty to 1985 Honda Civic, "I can't see the hood!" The sales guy explained that it was done to cut down on the frontal wind drag.
I rode my first century in 1982 on a Schwinn Collegiate Sport which was designed more for riding around the block than running away from home, which is what I did. I had upright handlebars, and 40 pounds of carbon steel and cheap rubber! I rode that bike into the ground and then joined the Air Force and bought a real bicycle...a Klein Quantum. Am I off subject...oh right....yeah Honda! Buying Honda was just an extension of the tree hugger in me, as well as the cycling. I still commute occasionally and people tell me I inspire them...I mean really! I ride 5.3 miles, round trip, to church some time. It's hardly a ride but I know they were just trying to be nice. People need to get out and ride! Get out and walk! Anything! There's a whole world out there that you can't appreciate in a car.
Anyway, there are lots of cars available with straight hoods if that is important to you, e.g. the Chrysler 300, Dodge Magnum, Ford Crown Vic, Mercury Marquis, or small cars like the Scion xB.
It is kind of fun to drive around in a car that not many others will have for a few weeks and have people ask you "what kind of car is that?" Most people haven't seen all the Civic pics on the internet.
I'm sure some people who want the thrill of being the first owners will be standing in line to buy the new redesigned Camry LE at full MSRP the first week they hit the lots next year despite the same cars being a dime a dozen months later.
Older design cars like the Corolla will be heavily discounted until their next redesign so people can justify buying them based on price.
I took a short drive in an 06 LX sedan 5-speed and liked it a lot. Didn't go over 45, but it seemed quiet and well built. Was suprised that ride seemed stiffer than expected, but I prefer that.
My favorite part was the dash. Publicity photos seem to show the dash at night, with a lot of black background, but in the day it has a lot of cool blue in the background. The expansive windshield didn't bother me at all, even though I have hated a friend's old Lumina minivan for its windshield (among other things).
I also liked the height- adjustable driver's seat which allowed me to sit somewhat low (my preference). My wife has a Maxima, and you just can't get the seat right compared to the steering wheel. The Honda was a great fit.
It's a real plus that the stereo will play MP3 discs, but I found the speaker system to be quite lacking. Didn't look like there was an option for high-mounted door tweeters, although that may be different on the coupe. Judging from the Honda brochure on the coupe, it may not have the little tiny windows between the front doors and windshield. If that area is solid in the coupe, tweeters could go there. The stock rear deck speakers had the tiniest magnets I've ever seen on a speaker. Shamefully cheap.
The interior had cupholders and storage in all the right places and sizes that I'm used to in my Eclipse.
The clutch was very unusual in its complete lack of resistance. I can get used to it.
I find most 05 Civic sedans to be quite ordinary looking, and like the looks of the 06 much better, except for the front corners below the headlights on the sedan -- too angular and jutting out. It appears from photos the coupes will be different, and better.
The sticker on the LX manual sedan was $17,060, including destination. The auto is about $800 more. The manual coupe will be about $16,800.
I am planning to buy an LX coupe 5-speed when they become available (probably next week, I'm told), assuming I like them in person.
In early discussions, the dealer (Ancona in Olathe, Kan.) told me I wouldn't have to worry about paying more than sticker. "Honda never sells over sticker," the manager said, contrary to some posts here. I asked about discounts, and he claimed they only make about $1,400 (apparently refering to the 05). Haven't read much about "invoice"prices.
A week later, I told them I would not bring myself to pay sticker, and asked them how long it would take to get one $500 off. They said they could only do $300 or $400. I said I'd probably take one for $400 off, and they agreed.
I can appreciate all the talk about waiting to get a better deal, but it's just not worth it to me to stress about a couple hundred more in savings that would hardly budge my monthly payment.
My rationale:
- I'll immediately begin saving $50 a month in gas on my long commute.
- My payment will be $80 a month less than my old Eclipse payment.
- Compared to the 05 models, I'm getting critical features like ABS at an LX price instead of an EX price.
- I've been astounded by Civic resale values, and paying a little more up front doesn't bother me because I know I'll lose less in the long run than on other cars.
- $16K just isn't that much for a good new car. I paid that much for a 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix that I never really liked.
Check out the pics.
http://www.egr.unlv.edu/~seera/
:surprise:
OK, so you hate the fact you can't see the hood in front of you on the Civic. You seem to really hate it. So, why are you still hanging around here, in a discussion devoted to the '06 Civic? The hood won't be changing for at least another five years. It looks like the Civic just isn't the right car for you.
My rationale:
- I'll immediately begin saving $50 a month in gas on my long commute.
- My payment will be $80 a month less than my old Eclipse payment.
- Compared to the 05 models, I'm getting critical features like ABS at an LX price instead of an EX price.
- I've been astounded by Civic resale values, and paying a little more up front doesn't bother me because I know I'll lose less in the long run than on other cars.
- $16K just isn't that much for a good new car. I paid that much for a 1990 Pontiac Grand Prix that I never really liked.
Everyone's situation is different. You understood your rational. You went for it. Good for you.
Enjoy your Civic.
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Replying to: yesroh (Sep 17, 2005 11:23 am)
I think so many people have just gotten used to seeing the massive hood on their Stupid Useless Vulgarities (SUVs).
I sure thats right.
Here's what they look like in my rear view mirror in AZ :mad:
But wait! If they see nothing but hood.......They can't see the road. :sick:
What are they going to do? How will they know where to drive?? : )
If there is a plus in all this, it may be that speakers are easier to replace and still end up with a professional job. If the OEM head unit is bad, you never end up getting the same tight, rattle free fit, at least that has been my experience.
The '06 Civic sedan is like a sedan version of the '95 Odyssey w/ sloping hood & additional side glass ahead of the windshield. I'd stick some fake antenna on the front corners as markers. I'm really sick of snail drivers in the parking lot...
During early '90's, Mercedes S-class even offered 2 rear markers that pop up on the trunk corners every time you shift into reverse.
Thanks for any response
I also test drove the new civic and overall I liked the car. I did not know what everybody was talking about when they said where's the hood until I saw the car in person. The hood on the new civic is shorter and the interior dash is much wider. I'm not sure if it makes a difference to me. The wider dash makes the interior feel bigger. In addition I did not notice a big difference in power compared to the 2005 civic.
Anyone else have thoughts on this.
If that is still a problem, try the Ram hood ornament. If you don't go flying into a parking space at 10-15 miles an hour, a tiny little bump on the bumper won't hurt (that's why they call them bumpers). Either way, I wouldn't make this such an issue. Learn to love mystery!
You know you'll have to do it many many times once you buy the car.
I'm not sure what you want, but it's nothing to worry about. The new Civic, I believe, has day running lights. You can use these to judge distance by watching their reflection. This might work although I've never tried it.
btw: here is a pic of the EURO styling and the 5-door HB that will be sold only in europe (built in UK)... all of this infor is from Car and Driver Mag...
http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/l_9142005102915.jpg
Igor
1. The "350-Watt AM/FM/XM Ready®/CD Premium Audio System with 7 Speakers including Subwoofer" on the EX Coupe - most likely the speakers are going to be crappy stock type speakers, but does anyone know anything about the stock stereo/headunit? It's obviously a lot more integrated into the dash and has steering wheel controls, making it difficult to put in an aftermarket system. In other words, would replacing the speakers with some quality aftermarket speakers and keeping the stock headunit yield a quality audio system? (Maybe add some Dynomat too, I read that's some good stuff)
2. What's Honda's record for reliability of first year cars? I know Honda and Toyota are at the top in terms of reliability, but the fact that it's a first year car still makes me wonder...
Thanks a bunch
Is the Sound system for the Si cheap?
I bought the first year of the 4th Generation Civic - 1988 I believe - and I had quite a number of problems with it during the first year of ownership. The ECU failed twice (under warranty of course), a mysterious electrical gremilin would occasionally cause problems (later traced to a problem in the main wiring harness), and a brake master cylinder failure. After the first year, the Civic was fine. It was built in Ontario, not Japan or Ohio, but I wouldn't think that was the reason. Just first year teething problems . . .