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I know nothing about aftermarket run-flats. Keep in mind one other difference on the Touring is a slightly different suspension setup due to the weight of the run-flat tires (30# more on each corner). So the handling may be compromised a bit by adding run-flats to an EX-L.
1) Does anyone else miss the compass feature that is found in many other mid-line vans (and the Touring)?
2) Does the driver's seat "break in" after a few weeks (she had a backache driving 1.5 hours home today)
3) Isn't it more convenient to have the steering-wheel adjustment on the left side of the column?
4) Does the large, low "glovebox" squeeze front-passenger legroom to the point of discomfort for anyone else?
2) I've never know any seat to "break in" (except, that is, until one breaks down after years of use). Seat comfort is a highly individual thing. For me, the Odyssey seat is not the best in soothing comfort but, damn, I can drive 10 hours and not feel at all sore or physically fatigued.
3) Perhaps, but Honda doesn't engineer 'em that way.
4) This is pet peeve of mine about virtually all vehicles. The last generation Odyssey had poor leg room on the passenger side too. It sure would help if there was a power passenger seat offered.
My 06 Touring with RES/NAV is very comfortable. With the power adjustable seats, it's not hard to find a position that is very comfortable and I drive it 3+ hours at a pop. I have not noticed the glove box to "squeeze" any legroom and you may wish to adjust your front seat back to more than accomodate a pair of long legs.
Best of luck with your new van. It's an awesome van with many advantages over its competition. Maybe once you get all of the settings where you like them, it will be more enjoyable to you both.
1 Compass, unless you used it a lot in the pass, I don't think I notice even if it's there. If I need direction, I would just use the NAV
2 This one I am not sure sometimes you may want to adjust the driving position better. use the telescoping/tilt feature also to get optimal driving position. I am not sure about the availability of lumbar suport
3 steering wheel adjustment location is just depend on where most people used to on their previous car. It hasn't bother me. Although I wish the touring version will have the power tilt/telescoping
4 yeah the knee room seems abit tight for front passenger
#2 I have always had back problems and I find the seat comfortable. It took several adjustments before I found the perfect combination.
#3 This is my first non GM vehicle and I don't care for the steering wheel adjustment, but it is the least of the minor irritants.
Finally, I miss the ignition on the dashboard, the auto doorlocks, and the auto headlights. However this Ody is head and shoulders over the 07 Buick terrazza that I test drove and the Honda salesman was too.
I hear you about the Buick. This is why GM is getting out of the minivan business and will focus only on cars and trucks. When ever I see anyone driving a GM mini-van I always ask myself the question...WHY :confuse:
And it's not the former as regards minivans.
But we digress - there are other threads that address that topic.
On the other hand, I bought a 93 Accord with 155k miles for my daughter to try to destroy; she failed, and sold it for $1500 with 240k on the clock. My son drives a 95 Legend that has somewhere over 200k on the clock - just hitting its stride! No, no mistake here - the whole family was in the van Saturday night watching a movie and playing with the electronics. The only reason that this van won't be around for the next 10 years will be that we trade it in on the next-generation Touring model before then...
I test drove a new '07 & didn't hear the droning defect. Although my '06 EXL developed the noise after a few hundred miles. Buyer beware on that issue because Honda doesn't know how to fix the problem...there is a TSB-050 that attempts to reduce the defect but not 100%.
Based on my experience with our '06 EXL, I would look at a Sienna if you are interested in reliability. They tend to be a little more pricey but have a few extra bells & whistles.
It's rarely an issue for me as I tend have the sound system cranked up.
Have the dealer check for bad seals. My service manager told me a lot of people complain about the road noise in their 05+'s.
Lastly, I drove a '07 Hyundai Santa Fe and is it whisper quiet on the highway & soaks the bounces wondefully. If Hyundai only held their value like Honda I would consider buying one.
It sure sounds like the new run flat tires have a lot of bugs with them. Glad mine doesn't have them...
dominickc1 - The Toyo's do have "bugs"...the Michelins on the Ody Touring do not. The problem was fixed by Bridgestone for the 06 and 07s but all 05 owners got a letter that they will replace them if you experience problems. The problem was that they got flat spots and when turning at low speed, it felt like you were turning a vehicle that left the 4WD on while driving on dry pavement. My Ody appears to be handling just fine in both good and bad weather. Don't know who told you the PAX are bad...maybe your Toyo dealer :shades:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/LongTerm/articleId=104757
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The big advantage for us with the Ody is the sliding doors make getting the grandkids (in carseats) in/out, access to the 3rd row is much better, and there's a lot more storage with the 3rd row up. The Tahoe had very little cargo space with the 3rd row in use. I'd buy a Suburban before another Tahoe, that's a much more fair comparison.
Keep in mind the average Tahoe comes with highway tires which are not that terrific at getting around in the snow anyway. A good set of snow tires on a FWD will get around just as well until the snow gets real deep. If you're driving on stretches that either requires 4x4 or chains, then I'd say go with the 4x4. Chains are a pain to mess with in my book. I guess it really comes down to how often you go to Tahoe and get into the nasty snow.
If I was in your situation, there's no way that I wouldn't have 4wd.
The reason that we have not bought another car yet is that we went through several months that we did not think we could afford it but now it is on again with the SUV problems that are mounting up.
Any lights that DON'T go off on their own have been manually turned "on" by that seat occupant (or, in our case, a certain 5 year old who likes turning the lights on).
For those lights that stayed on after the front lights dimmed, simply press the light lens; that will turn that light "off" and it will then operate in conjunction with the front lights (activated by opening a door).
Hi, I have the '07 Ody EX-L w/ power sliding door and the past few days it has been making noise when it closes. Has any one run into this problem? If so, did you lube it and where? Thanks.
I have '05 Odyssey and today after work the interior lights (not over head lights) blink/flashes constantly. The speedometer did not show my current speed. It showed 0 speed as if I not moving. Hope someone can help.
Many thanks,
Kangal
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
We are buying a 2007 Honda Odyssey and got a great price quoted using Honda's online dealer locator service. Everything seems okay with the deal (the price is about 1K under invoice and doesn't seem too unreasonable). I called yesterday to verify the price again and was assured there were not going to be any "surprises".
Anyway, the dealer called today and asked if I was worried about the mileage on the car when we picked it up. He says it should have less than 150 miles on it and the reason is because he has to drive it over from another location. He said the new car warranty would extend the extra 150 miles (36,0000 plus the mileage when we picked it up). I am also worried the driver might abuse the car on the trip. Does this should right? Should we worry? What is the maximum mileage for a car to be considered new?
We actually have to drive to the Bay Area (about 3-1/2 hours) to pick up the vehicle. And this is a rather expensive purchase. Our next option is about $600 more.
Typically dealers used retired people to do swaps - I wouldn't worry. IMHO, 150 miles isn't going to kill it.
What is the maximum mileage for a car to be considered new?
Most states don't have a legal determination on "new" based on miles. Usually a vehicle that is untitled is considered new no matter the mileage.
Our next option is about $600 more.
Is the 150 miles worth $600 to you?
Good Luck.
I'm impressed that they actually called to verify with you, most wouldn't have thought twice about it. It's doubtful the drivers would abuse the cars, they're usually retired folks that run vehicles between dealerships but that's not a rule. I'm sure they could stick an 18yo kid in it just as easy, but it's pretty tough to tear up a car in 150 miles without having serious visible wear. You could always have a flat-bed haul it between dealers, but be prepared to pay for the cost as a dealer typically wouldn't eat that. I wouldn't sweet it myself.
Is a 3.5 hour drive (is that rt or one way?) worth $600 in savings? I guess everyone values their time differently but $600 isn't much in the scheme of things. Nevermind the gas cost, driving two vehicles back, etc. But if you just like a road trip.....why not?
Thanks everyone so far! It seems that at least I should not worry about the mileage being some sort of scam or problem so that is a relief. But I am still interesting in hearing other suggestions or opinions so if anyone else has a thought that would be great! Thanks!!