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He also offered a paintless dent removal, scratch removeal and aluminum wheel repair policy to cover all those "ouches" for 3,4 and 5 years at $499, $599, and $699 respectively. My 16 month old Acura TL already has one ding and two curb scraped wheels that would cost me $300 +/- to have reapired. So the Porsche offering is tempting. Any thoughts from others??
I haven't reached a conclusion on the extended warranty yet. Your price for 7/100 is a better deal than mine for 7/70. I only wish it was coming from Porsche and not some third party, albeit a reputable and highly recommended one in my case.
So how did it feel when you drove it home? Got the grin off your face yet?
By the way, are you considering getting the clear bra for your baby?
Get used to walking - most new P cars get parked at the far end of the parking lot to avoid all the nasty dings.
Haven't considered the clear bra and it wasn't discussed by the dealer. I'm to get back to the them on a 3-5 year ding/scratch/wheel repair plan. Please give me your thoughts on the clear bra.
1. It does stop rock chips (and corresponding broken hearts); and
2. It is much better to get it when the car is new/close to new . . . so dirt, etc. isn't sealed beneath it.
I've seen a lot of 911s with them on the front of the rear fenders . . . since they also are in the line of sight for rocks . . .
I'm having one put on my 997 before I take delivery.
-BS
Apparently the RMS seal has been redesigned several times but the problem still persists. There have been reports of RMS leaks on both 997s and 04 996s. At what level and frequency no one knows because Porsche is not forthcoming about it.
The good news is that although this has been going on for quite some time, it does not seem to be considered a major problem or one that occurs often, and that 911s have decent reliability status.
The bad news is that because of the RMS leak and another looming possibility, the intermediate shaft failure which requires engine replacement, many owners are leary about owning a modern-day 911 or Boxster out-of-warranty. The specter of having to pay for a replacement engine, although not considered high-risk, is not pleasant and has been discussed incessantly on the web. And I believe this has affected the once-stellar resale value of 911s.
I heard there was an article that discusses the RMS situation in one of the recent Total 911 issues. Actually, I guess all of the issues are recent since it's a new magazine.
Now I have already smashed the passenger corner of my air dam (sp?). Pulled into a parking spot that, for some inexplicable reason, had a one-foot high metal post sticking out of the ground that I never saw coming. First accident I have had in a decade, and of course its in my new baby.
I called a local Porsche dealer, and they said I might as well take it to any high-quality body shop, which surprised me. In other words, the local guy would order the part from Porsche anyway, and provided they are skilled, could do just as good a job as Porsche's shop. First question is what is your opinion on that?
The local guy has a great reputation, and handles lots of luxury cars. He said he would try to heat the corner, and see if he could push it back out. If it doesn't have any cracks, he could then repaint it. If I have it replaced, we're talking $2K. Second question, what would you do?
Third, behind the problem crunch, there is some sort of air unit that looks like a honeycomb. The front has three of them, each behind the requisite air dam. The two on the corners are angled, diagonally. Anyway, this passenger side unit now has a dent it in. When I go to sell the car, anyone looking through the to-be-fixed air dam will see it. So, there is the question of whether or not to replace this?
Piscean
CONGRATS! I knew you'd get the 911 all along!
For a car like a 911 I'd get the $699 level of protection, sounds like a good deal to me for all you get considering what that type of work would cost.
M
The question is when to take delivery.
I live in New Jersey and if I place the order now, I'll likely get it in December. I'm concerned that if I get it in December it will be the "dead of winter," and though I intend on driving the 997 as much as possible, I'm anticipating that in December and January, the bad weather will force me to use my alternate car.
So...I could either go forward with the order now, or tell them to deliver it in February, which would save me a few months of lease fees.
Please advise. Thanks!!!
Thanks - and somehow I think you DID know I was going to get the 911, even before I did! Any stock tips from the great predictor??
nattyb,
I think your order now or wait dilemma depends on what kind of car you are looking to get. If your specs are pretty generic, you might be able to get the best deal by leasing a stock car "in the dead of winter" over ordering one now or even in a couple of months. If, however, your specs are very specific, then I would suggest ordering one for February/March delivery. The idea of paying the first two or three lease payments at "full price" for the worst of the winter would be very frustrating to me.
not the best of times in the northeast, but if worse comes to worse, I'll just have them put it on a flat bed truck and deliver it from the dealership straight to my garage, with the hopes that it will be a milder winter thereafter.
I could have told them to hold off, and that I want delivery in March, but hey, I would just rather look at it for a couple of months if need be, than lose more time of the '06 year waiting for it in anticipation. Before you know it, the '07's will be out.
Piscean
Thanks.
I was offered flatbed delivery to my door on my 05 Cab S. The dealer is 50 miles away. However, I chose to pick the car up so that I could inspect it in the dealer showroom before handing them my check. It was a stock car that had arrived at the dealer 6 weeks earlier. It hadn't been test driven, but you never know what can happen, even in the showroom. With your car being ordered and delivered directly to you, that shouldn't be an issue.
My quest for the 911 suffered a setback when my wife decided she wants to invite her parents to accompany us on our next vacation. I truly enjoy their company, but man, at what cost. When, not if, I get my dream car, I will probably opt to not put the bra on. I will simply have a good cry at the occurrence of the first blemish, and it won't be so bad after that. How many of us have been paranoid about getting a ding on our new car, and when it invevitably happens, we curse the gods, the roads and highway authority, and all gravel trucks. And then a few months down the road, when that first ding has been joined by several others, we pretty much take it in stride. Besides, that $700 will get me at least a couple tanks of gas. I hope.
Have fun breaking your baby in. It's gonna be hard to stay under 4000 rpm. Man, I envy you!
Bean bag on the dash with a Garmin on it, in a Porsche??? Yeesh! It would be on the floor 99% of the time!!!
$2000 or so, and you will actually use it. Not a must-have for most, but in this case, I'll say "must".
Steebie
In any event, I found that the overall interior and exterior refinements of the 997 were much more appealing to me than the 996; not to mention the performance improvements. I could have gotten a heck of a deal on a virtually new (under 300 miles) leftover 2004 Cab, but as soon as I sat in and drove the 997, I was hooked.
I don't think you need to go the used or demo route to get a decent deal on a 2005. I bought a brand new 2005 997 S Cabriolet two weeks ago at a nice discount. I did shop around quite a bit and it was somewhat of a unique situation. And it had about $3,000 in extra options that I wouldn't have ordered in a 2006. But now that I have the $2,400 sport exhaust, I love it. I used the Porsche website to check dealer inventories within 250-500 miles of where I live. Fortunately, I was able to buy from a dealer that is only about 45 miles away. The closer dealers either didn't have the car I was looking for, or if they did, weren't discounting much, if any.
As far as I know, there are no differences between the 2005 and 2006, except that the base prices went up roughly 2.8% ($2,500 on the Cab 2S that I bought). The 2006's have begun arriving. So if you can find what you are looking for in a 2005, you should be able to strike a decent deal and save yourself some nice gas money. The difference between what I paid for an in stock 2005 and the best deal I could have gotten on a exactly comparable build to order 2006 (November/December delivery from a dealer 250 miles away, no less) was about $7,000. If I tried to order a 2006 locally, the difference would have been even greater.
Hope this helps. Good luck.
What kind of miles are others putting or planning to put on their 911's? Am I the extreme exception to the rule with a projection of 12-15k per year? A friend owns a 2001 911 Turbo that he claims to "drive a lot". It has 11,000 miles, since he bought it new almost 5 years ago. Seems like Boxsters get more miles on them than 911's.
Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. I love looking at this car, but I love driving it even more.
First, I have already 1000 miles on my new 997S and it is a blast, hard to describe in words.
Second: I am quoting from the last Automobile magazine, " greatest sports cars "
regarding the multiple personalities of the 911:
" The base carrera is fro strivers, The GT2 for millionaires, The C4 appeals to faint hearted, The Turbo to those who are always in a hurry, and the cabriolet to ones who are not,The GT3 and the Gt3 RS are for real and would be racers, the targa for part time sun worshipers, and the carrera S for those who want the most compelling compromise."
Also I would like to share , I ordered trough the internet " Klasse all-in-one " wax/cream and it is unbelivebable on my Lapis Blue, also I finish the treatment with Carnouba P21S and the results are incredible, I will definetly recomend it as atreatment for a new Porsche.
keep enjoying this beautiful machines.
Pablo
thx..
No deals here in So. CAl. What a car... I have an 04' 525i BMW and for sure a BMW is NOT a Porsche. I can't wait to punch this sucker. How to wait for 2000 miles before going over 4500 rpm is the tough question. Kids done with college... now it's my turn ....Build quality is excellent, Carrera White and Sand Beige looks great in person, no picture does it justice...
Man I'm dreaming.. ya a smile everytime you get in the car. What a kick!!
Chromedome
For all you here in CA , do you really have to install the FRONT license plates , and if not how many times did you get " caught " and have to pay a fine, and how much was it ?
Thanks for your replies.
Historically, I have always bought Mercedes sedans, believing they provided the best balance of safety and performance.
I would love to drive a 911 but am not sure about their safety. I assume due to their expense and/or low sales volume, whenever I look them up on the web for crash test results it always comes up "not tested".
Based on their racing heritage, I can believe that 911s are built to be safe. But how does this really translate to pubic road safety? For example, if a 911 gets hit by a large SUV what is the expectation? The 911 sits low and the engine is in the back, so what happens in a head-on crash with a larger vehicle?
I know Porsche tries very hard to make these cars safe, but does anyone have any DATA on how well 911s actually fare on the public streets?
I really don't like SUVs. I'm sure the Cayenne is extremely safe and fun to drive, but I'm interested in how the 911 does in reality. I'm looking for hard data - - but would also be interested in any thoughts you all may have in this area.
thanks
I debated about the clear bra and finally after 10 minute decided to have it installed,
The only thing is that I only had it installed on the front bumper , lights and bottom front ( where intakes are ) NOT on the hood , I know that is where chips occur but it forms an ugly line across the hood and on a Lapis Blue color it is quite noticible.
So I would definetly go for the clear bra.
The same day I bought my Porsche, I picked up my BMW from a local dealer after having service. Not directly a Porsche issue true, but heed the difference in the way I was treated.
My BMW was bought 1 year ago at the dealer , in for service, dented, repaired and returned.The dent must have been repaired with playdough and and emery board, it looked like [non-permissible content removed] .I was NOT told of the dent or repair. The Porsche dealer treated me like a KING.Besides the thill of the new C2S, the people there were happy for me.
The BMW was a $52,000 vehicle when purchased new and has only 5,200 miles on the odom. I meet with the general manager at the BMW dealer on friday to sort this out. My understanding is that here in California and unauthorized repair is subject to a $10k fine, will be more than interesting to see the GM squirm. I wonder what thier policy is for dealing with this type of deceitful process ... will tell results to you guys this weekend..LIve and Learn
Chromedome
Gee, officer, here's the paperwork where I ordered the replacement but it hasn't come yet (and if it has never say so!)