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I think a large part of the market wants a more conservative gas-saver, and the Corolla name is beyond respected, and would net 10k a month, no problem, if it got comparable performance to an ICE Corolla, and 45-50MPG.
DrFill
I've wondered why they couldn't develop some kind of solid fuel technology that could burn clean using something that wouldn't compromise our existing food supply - run a car on horse manure pellets, or something of that nature, for example!
Oh well, I guess the Corolla's as good a candidate as any to be a semi-electric car. Then they could quietly phase out the Prius, having served its purpose. That'd be one expensive Corolla, though.
Went to my favorit Toyota Dealership today, and put down a small deposit for the new 09 corolla. Dealership stated it was a smart move since a lot of calls have been made to them regarding the possible delivery date, but no deposits, and its best to get in line as to what you want in a new 09 so it can be ordered early on if you need one sooner.
Now just have to see what SEMA has to show for the new colors, NAV system, moonroof, and other options.
http://www.carspace.com/pd83/Albums/my%20photos/corolla.jpg/page/photo.html#pic
What city is the ad from?
Good find! :shades:
DrFill
The Sandman
No this was never true it was one of those internet rumors that developed a life of its own. As backy noted the Corolla is a mass market economy vehicle. It's the quintessential mass market vehicle being sold all over Asia, Australia, Europe, and all the Americas essentially the same everywhere. The NADM vehicle will look like the Euro/Aussie vehicle.
Toyota is expecting it to pass the Camry and become the No 1 auto in the US ( and Canada? ).
2009
Length = 178.7"
Width = 69.3"
Height = 58.1"
Wheelbase = 102.3"
As you can see length only grows fractionally. Width increases the most. The car will look way more proportionate now with the increase in width.
2008
Length = 178.3"
Width = 66.9"
Height = 58.5"
Wheelbase = 102.4"
However reading between the lines I think that Toyota sees there being a massive shift in buying patterns due to sharply rising fuel costs. All the recent studies point to our supplies getting tighter and tighter yet our usage ( demand ) is likely to be 30-60% higher than now. Something's gotta give.
If there's just barely sufficient fuel for our current national fleet but our 5-15 yr demand is going to be say 50% greater than now..
a) we'll have to be using other forms of fuel
b) all the vehicles will have to be 30-50% more efficient
c) the demand for smaller more efficient vehicles will jump significantly as fuel prices ratchet up.
This market shift is being recognized by all the vehicle makers now since fuel is stuck in the $2.60-$3.50 range and probably going to $4-ish soon. Toyota, Nissan and Honda have all come out with much smaller vehicles over the last 3 yrs. GM and Ford are planning redo's on their key small vehicles.
Where have you been sandman? Hiding in the sand? We've been kicking the Civic's butt for a while now with the current Corolla. Wait till this new one shows up. Should be soon. Creepy crawlers Halloween night!
Mackabee
I don't know who came up with this gem but our bread and butter is and always will be the Toyota Camry.
Mackabee
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
See 1601, I believe it was a Toyota salesperson who said:
Toyota is expecting it to pass the Camry and become the No 1 auto in the US ( and Canada? ).
I am a little surprised at that but not much. What was Toyota's #1 seller in the U.S. for many years? Corolla, wasn't it? And if the 2009 Corolla is much improved and still offers high fuel economy, I can see it passing up the Camry as gas prices keep climbing steadily upwards.
Now some things have to fall into place..
..fuel going to $4 or $5 or $6 a gallon is the key one.
..new CAFE standards like the Hill-Terry bill that Toyota and GM and Ford and Chrysler all support will mandate a 'blended average' FE of 32 mpg. The Senate bill which is being negotiated is stiffer yet at 35 mpg for the entire fleet. If this is the case then the sales of small cars are going to have to shoot up at the expense of everything else.
Mackabee
Mack
You can already option a 2008 LE with cloth seats and no nav to over $20K MSRP.
Expect a 2009 with everything to be more like around $23-24K MSRP fully loaded.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
However I think the price will be an XRS, with whichwever upgraded engine they use, fully loaded, at about $23000. This to me makes perfect sense. It's about $2500 less than a Camry 2.4L XLE but without leather and no SKS either.
So a buyer at $22000-$23000 can opt for a bigger Camry 2.4L LE with standard options - or - a sportier top-of-the-line Corolla with Toyota's most modern 4c engine.
Mackabee
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Mack
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Thanks from south FL.
Mackabee
p.s. they will go on sale in mid February/ early March 2008
This was leaked online could this be the 2009 Corolla?
also when are we going to find out the prices of these new models?
For just a few more dollars they could have made a custom plastic face plate that exactly matched and flush-fit the dash.
I would probably skip navi on it because you can do very little with Toyota navi systems while driving. You will have to pull over and stop and this may be very inconvenient if you're not near an exit and dangerous if you're in a bad neighborhood when you stop. There are lots of places where it is difficult to find any place to legally stop and park.
I wish you could enter addresses by voice like you can with the latest Honda nav systems.
I think it "looks" good, but the real test will be if it "feels" good. I hope they have replaced the awkward driving position with something more ergonomic and comfortable. More seat and steering wheel adjustment was needed compared to old models.
http://www.motivemagazine.com/gallery/gallery.html?c=show_album;p=Manufacturers/- - - - - - - - - Toyota/Corolla/2009-Present
I'm surprised and disappointed that the 2.4L has been dropped into the top trims. Turbo option?