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us rob. us. how's that make you feel?
rant and rave about patriotism, where do you see that? i enjoy the fact that buying an american made truck is patriotic. but i don't spend $28k to be patriotic. i do it cuz it's the best truck available.
seriously, that's the best counter you have? telling me to capitalize us?
kyle
kyle
so, you found ONE post about a vibrating silverado. wonderful. terrific. the question now is, do we treat that post as typical of all silverados (as rob will try to) or admit that yes, some silverados have vibration problems?
i admit, some silverados have vibration problems. funny thing is...it only took me one post to do so.
even funnier thing is, i don't see the words "main bearing seizure" in there anywhere. lemme go check again. nope, not there. got anything that's worth my time there, rob? hmmm...didn't think so.
kyle
Setting sail on the R6, Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg, Tallinn, Copenhagen, Oslo, Amsterdam, Antwerp, Zeebrugge, Dover.
Bon Voyage!
See you September 4.
Quad
Tell us
- Tim
I own a 1999 Silverado 5.3l engine. I have notice since the engine has 5000 miles that the engine knocks. I am a mechanical engineer and have owned 350's previously and have never heard such a noise. The noise sounds like low end noise and after reading your posted article I am convinced that I hear the main bearings knock for 5-10 seconds daily. and I cringe For 2001, the main bearing tolerances of these engines have been tightened for quieter, cold-engine startup. What the hell are these guys doing I pay 25k for a vehicle and now they are changing the tolerance of the bearings. Isn't it common sense that using a tighter tolerance will enhance a components life. What if anything are they saying about the 1999 5300 engines? Is general motors doing anything? Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks
Brian
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- Tim
Harry
I've seen many of these engines go past 200K miles.
Rob, you come across as quite a jackass. why don't you talk trucks, not try to be holy roller.
Quad! I love that post. Rob, your comeback just wasn't up to par...
call them like I see them. I expect to be called a name now...
mine can haul 10,000, in fact i've done it twice.
Toyota is a good truck. I think they put some great engineering into it....but its still 7/8th of a full size.
Hood grill and flares say it all.
AMERICAN BAD [non-permissible content removed]
Ryan
Dean
Also if you think quality has anything to do with it like fords slogan quality is job #1 your totally wrong. Its all about $$$ if they can save a little here and there they do it.
Ryan
tolerances for 2001. Hmmm, it only took 2 yrs. to
fix this problem. That is GM quality for you!"
bama, like i said earlier...gm's in front of toyota, cuz toyota STILL hasn't figured out how to fix their vibration. that one guy had to go back SEVEN times and it still isn't fixed. why don't you guys stop harping on the same problem that everyone already admits exists? i have yet to see a gm owner deny the fact that some of them vibrate. we know this. some do, some don't - just like the toyotas.
you guys are still driving a 7/8 size truck. just go ask your tundra solutions brothers. they know their truck is mid-sized too. closer to a t-100 than it is the smallest of the big three. as for that towing bs...as cdean said, we all know the chevy's will pull more than 5000 pounds. i just wish we had the opportunity to prove it to you...
kyle
When & Where you guys wanna meet???
My truck is up for the challenge
Ryan
Todd~~~
Wish I would have taken a longer test drive. I babied mine through the 500 mile break in, recommended in the owner's manual. At 560 miles I was back at the dealer for vibration complaints. Little did I know that after 14K, two sets of tires, two sets of front and rear brakes, and 10 wheel balances that I would now want to return the truck. You just assume that the Toyota reputation is solid and they will stand behind the product. Now they are insisting that the vibrations are normal. If I seem angry, you bet I am, they have my $27K, I want it back. They can have there expensive martini shaker, I don't want it.
am with you, Todd. I just want it to be my option, not Toyota's. At the very least I want a new truck with all the fixes I am sure Toyota will eventually do, mine is vibrated to an early death by now. I was planning on at least 200K of trouble free driving. They call that impairment of use and value, in lemon law language Toyota. The Ford was the other truck I considered, I am just a died in the wool Toyota guy. Ford is the only other truck recommended by Consumer Distort.
Some people are getting restless
Ryan
I own a 2000 Silveraldo 2500 LS. Have 6800 miles
and have 6.0 motor. Three weeks ago,while sitting
at red light the engine sputtered and died. After
restarting the engine ran like crap, and service
engine light came on. The next day I took the
truck
back to the Dealer. The Service Manager told me
the Computer Tech. was on vacation that week,but
he
had a mech that "kind of knows how to use it".
Later that day he called me and said the truck was
fixed and said it was the EGR valve. He stated
they
replaced it,and the truck was "perfect". I picked
up the truck and on the way home the engine
several
times cut out. The next day I took it back and
they couldn't find any problem. To make a long
story short, I have taken the truck back four
times,and they keep saying "the engine has been
scoped and the computer states it's perfect". It
still periodicaly cuts out and the power and gas
milage has gone to heck. If anyone has had this
problem and have had it fixed,could you please
tell
me what the problem was. Sorry this is so long.
RWELL I think we are getting to you cause yesterday you said you wouldnt resort to namecalling and such. Dont deny it either you pretty much called CDEAN a cheerleader.
You dont have to post horror stories on the silverado we werent the ones who denied problems with their brand of truck. Remember it was you and bama. We are enlightening you to what is really going on out in the REALWORLD
Ryan
to society as well as yourself. that story you
just babbled on about was proven to be totally
fabricated or don't you read follow up posts?
that story and alot like it are bored individuals
that have nothing better to do than to make up a
story about an impossible situation that has no
possible solution. i find you to be the most
entertaining moron this site has to offer. please
continue so that we all can become alot dumber
just like you.
...red
Just a comment to an earlier post (I have not finished reading all the posts yet), but, yes, I have seen Tundras used almost entirely exclusively near my work where a development project is taking place (probably another building). It looks like a fleet of them.
And, for crying out loud, whoever "assumed" that Silverados only tow 5,000 lbs., make sure you get it right, it is MUCH more... go to GM's site and check for yourself.
Ryan
I love it. Why don't you repost the Frame argument so we can see what was said?
Again, why don't you just talk trucks?
Can you?
Or must you insult?
page 4-58:
max trailer weight assumes the vehicle already contains one driver, passenger, and appropriate towing equipment (i.e. weight dist. hitch). the weight of ADDITIONAL (caps for emphasis) passengers, cargo, and non-standard equipment (i.e. tool boxes, caps, etc.) therefore must be included in the max trailering weight.
page 4-59:
max trailering weight for a 1/2 ton, 4wd, 5.3L, 3.73 gears: 7500#
bama, what's next on your list of things to put down on the silverado in hopes that you'll feel better? i bet it's not: tundra = less truck for more buck. you know, i guess that argument is wearing a little thin, especially since toyota dealers are giving their tundras away now. maybe it should just be: tundra = less truck. there, that's better.
kyle
you state that ryan's posts about the tundra are boring. yesterday, they were insults. what will they be tomorrow? i know: same as they've always been: FACTS. and then, after essentially telling ryan to stop posting "boring" tundra mishaps, what do you do? you post one about a chevy. you work soooo hard to find a negative silverado post to share and it turns out it's fake! LOL!!! man, there must be so many out there to choose from that you have to get one that's fabricated! LOL!!!
you're a joke.
I thought that GM had (obyone) Sat 20 May '00 (02:45 PM)
changed the manufacturer of these defective
windows for the 99/00 Silverados. I guess not or
their inventory of defective windows is very large.
Going on my fourth set with no end in site. Dealer
is disgusted, GM zone rep and customer assist have
no answers. Just keep replacing 'em. The positive
is that I get to drive new and different vehicles
everytime it goes in as they have to keep it for a
couple days to make sure the sealant cures before
driving. Now, if I could only get my '00 Denali
back which is in for over a week for (2)replacement
shocks. I have never had two rent a cars at the
same time before. Leave it to GM...
http://members.aol.com/sturbridg1/utahtrek.html
this is two real people using their trucks for real living - not consumer reports, not some magazine - real people.
taking this experience into consideration with the facts that a comparably equipped tundra costs more (when they're not giving them away), gets worse gas mileage than even the more powerful Vortec 5.3 L, is dimesionally smaller in most aspects, has less trailering and payload capacity, and is in the first year of production, how can you justify buying a tundra? so you can fit it in your garage, fit in between the other soccer moms' mini-vans, and turn tighter (by a whole 3 feet) downtown? go for it. just don't come crying here when it all falls down...
kyle
- daily towing of 7000lbs. +
- daily passengers = 5 or more
- daily visits to the hardware store where parts and equipment weigh 2500lbs. + and are larger than plywood sheets.
- daily off-roading at high speeds.
Well, I think for most people, the above circumstances are more occasional than regular. It is almost like arguing which of two cars can go faster when both already go more than 150mph.
Point is this, I think the things that REALLY matter in a truck will be the following:
- good towing capacity both in size and weight
- good acceleration and handling
- well-assembled without squeaks and rattles
- reliable, strong engine
- comfortable interior features that allow hookups of gadgets such as cell-phones, laptops, etc.
- ergonomically designed interior
- maintenance costs
- etc.
Those are the things that matter for most, the others should be used as an after-thought if the competition is too steep.
And for the comments about the looks of Toyota resembling Ford, I have one thing to say...
Ford did the same with copying Dodge. When I saw the new Fords, I thought "Oh my God! They are copying Dodge Trucks!" and GM's Tahoe... do those curves not resemble a Durango? Especially in the tailgate and rear-end?
The days where you could easily distinguish one make of vehicle from the next are gone... what is left to distinguish (at least from the outside) is most cosmetic with a few exceptions.
Feel free to add or take away from the above list... just want to make sure that the focus is on the MOST important things first before getting into the other things... (i.e. deal with NEEDS first before WANTS). Just my $.02
only thing i would add to your list:
never buy a first model year vehicle.
that's why i waited until 2000 to get my 'rado. tundra will prob'ly come around in 2001. i wouldn't be surprised a bit. the 2000's are going to put a ding in toyota's previously outstanding reputation for customer service and reliability though. they're going to have to work to get some tundra customers to remain toyota loyal. just like gm had to with the '99 'rados. you win some, you lose some. some of the guys over on the tundra solution board are converts from the '99 gm's. too bad for them, they didn't learn their lesson and went a bought a first model year tundra. bottom line -that's why i wait until after the first model year to purchase a new vehicle, regardless of make. to me, that's just common sense.
kyle
No tangential stress is introduced from compression, tension.
Crossmembers are not in shear unless they are attached in all 3 directions and have no mid loading sections.
If this is wrong, please tell me what house crap engineering degree you have?
I'll prepare to for the subject to change.
I vote Robbie off the island.
must we show proof. It will make you look silly. You do a good job of that. you should try civility...you don't wear rude and pissed off very well.
please check out posts 296-306 in this thread
You had no reply, other than to change the subject, and quote someone else as fact, in post 307, someone with no credential.
Its all in your outlook. why do you feel so inadequate? The more you act like this, the worse it gets Rob.
Read below.
- Tim
Have a nice weekend everyone i work all weekend then sunday night start a long deserved VACATION WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Ryan
And so it is with all the Tundra owners. Don't like hearing the facts about their Tunrdra so they namecall, deny and avoid things presented, make up or exaggerate problems inherent with other makes of truck (of which, the Tundra has several of also), and just plain continue to post crap that makes no sense.
Funny how all this garbage is posted about how bad Ford and the F150 is, yet, Toyota copied a lot of features of the F150 and even tried to pass their Tundra off as the "T-150". Guess Toyota saw the true leaders of the full size market and attempted to steal the F150 design and features for their Tundra.
All this just makes me laugh.
Yep, this is the first V-8 truck I've "owned".
I have driven and repaired big three trucks for years, just never "owned" them. Sorry you hate my Tundra so much, I love it! (except for that clock position)
"The Boeing engineers are already printing post
585." - see if you can get "the Boeing engineers" to tell you what a main bearing is...cuz it's painfully obvious to all here that you don't have a clue.
chip on his shoulder? buddy, you're the one with the chip. i have yet to see you post anything but negativity about the trucks other than tundra. when you come down from your ivory tower and realize that you're driving a vehicle of slightly less caliber than the big three...people just might start to take you seriously. till then...you're still a joke.
...awaiting my personal insult for the day...
kyle
BTW...you got something in your hair....looks like TP?
- Tim
- Tim
the digger you deep the harder it is to get out.
do you they have internet in the Boeing janitors lounge?
entirely avoiding post 584? hmmmm
good weekend all.
kyle