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I did get 24.6 on a long highway drive.
Gas is STILL expensive? $2.99-$3.09 here in Phoenix.
Let's face it - we're all suckers - the gas price will never go below $2.50 - we've show we will pay the cost no matter what.
I've cut back a lot on my driving.
Pretty much soft asphalt freeway - got 24.6 mpg - of course the ac is always on.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/index.php?sty=66898
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Another example of why not to buy a used rental car?
Maybe Dirty Mary will be seen with him next time.
At that speed, I would imagine the Sonata would have disintegrated in a wreck. Hitting another car, also fatal.
What was he thinking. On a race track, with a full cage and proper tires, at least there would be some margin of safety.
Stock car, with proper tires and no cage, perhaps a tilt over a hundred out in a far away part of the desert would be OK. My luck a gust of wind, or an animal crossing the road would total me out. :surprise:
IIRC most passenger tires are rates at either 105, 112 or 118 MPH. Many cars with V-6's or 8's can exceed these speeds. You can even get tires rated as low as 81 MPH.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
My MAC won't open the hmaservice tabs to the following,
Azera recall?????
1. wide open throttle, no idea of what this means, but it doesn't sound good.
2. pass air bag dashboard light delay at start with no passenger... problem is air bag may not work if there is this delay
Has anyone heard about this???
If so please put some feedback on this forum's pages.
Thank you and good day
C/D does a two way test average on flat terrain to come up with the top speed to counter any effects of wind. This guy may have been going down a slight decline with a good tailwind.
-Loren
Loren
http://english.kbs.co.kr/news/newsview_sub.php?menu=3&key=2006060307
Basically: certain models (determined by VIN) have a problem with ragged shift from 1st to 2nd during WOT (Wide Open Throttle) conditions, meaning you are sitting on the gas peddle. Certain models (constrained by date manufactured) have a problem with the passenger-side airbag sensor, but as I read it the problem was backwards to what you report: it doesn't come on when it should, meaning the only danger is that it might deploy during a head-on wreck if it didn't need to do so. :sick:
UPDATE: I looked back, message 2393 posted on the 29th... :shades:
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
You have to manually take the vehicle out of overdrive even to get > 110 or so. (now, how would I know that?)
did anybody noticed the annoying overspeed alarm that triggers above 75mph ... is there anybody to help me deactivating this alarm (without effecting other alarms like door open alarm, seatbelt alarm ... etc.)?
thank you in advanced
does this mean that you're not going to help ... the car is supper but the alarm hypnotises me on the highway ...
It can easily be disabled, though - there is a post somewhere that somebody mentioned it was disabled by the Hyundai service mechanic, but as I recall it didn't say exactly how.
You might want to search back and ask the person that posted it... :shades:
What I meant is that I thought all manufacturers of cars would install tires at the factory which would have a speed rating exceeding the car's designed top speed.
You would think but unless you're buying a high priced high performance car you most likely don't have tires that can hold up to high speeds. Since the price of tires skyrockets with higher speed ratings most manufacturers stay under the 125 range. I would really stay under 100 with any factory stock tire.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Those lawsuits could be for injuries even to the negligent driver (for going too fast) and/or from non-negligent passengers or people in other cars or pedestrians. Deep pockets is what lawyers go after even if the negligence percentage is small (so long as the injuries are severe).
Make sense? What's your guess everyone?
And I'll bet too that if manufacturers put on tires with under 125 mph speed ratings its because their cars won't go that fast so their lawyers said the tires were ok.
Take a look at some new cars and their tires' speed ratings. Can anyone find an original equipment tire that is speed rated lower than the car's top speed capability?
I think I'll keep it under 100 too. That's a good idea even with (99Y) tires rated for speeds above 186 mph... unless you are on a racetrack.
Well since you would have to be going at least 66% over the speed limit the manufacturer would have a very limited liability with that regards.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
If a Sonata goes out of control because of a blowout at 147 or 137 or 120 or any speed above the legal limit, and a busload of kids goes over a cliff as a result, and the manufacturer only put 81 mph rated tires on the car to save a few dollars, a jury might award millions and millions compensatory damages for the injuries/deaths AND maybe hundreds of millions in punitive damages.
Change the numbers if you want, but I think most of you get the idea, right?
Any thought of limited liability would be little comfort to the loser of that lawsuit.
So, it would be smarter for Hyundai to put an adequate speed rated tire on their Sonata to begin with.
2) The more you think of it, isn't that speed hard to believe?
3) There is no place in America with a speed limit over 100MPH.
4) They can sue for any reason they want, but winning is another story.
5) A car tire can blow out for numerous reasons.
6) A tire could be under or over inflated by more than 6 PSI which is not good.
7) Hyundai can not nanny every idiot in the World. If someone does take out a school bus, or crash into a hundred people, I am sure in some strange way, a lawyer will find Hyundai at fault. Every company in the World has an army of lawyers and a million cases going on. Oh well, what can ya do.
Think about the drag, the HP and such now.... 147 MPH seems a bit much. Steep downhill with a tail wind??? The Mitsubishi 3000 was rated up to 160 MPH, I THINK, but that was the twin-blown 300HP version and a sports car body. Wish I had my old Stealth... well sometime I do. It was the base one though.
-Loren
My point was if the tire blew because it was not rated up to the car's top speed it does not matter whether the driver was breaking a speed limit or if he under- or over-inflated his tires a few pounds.
Installing tires that are safe to the top speed of the car... is that over-protective to consumers?
But yes, 147 seems unattainable in a Sonata to me too. I'd have guessed the drag limited top speed was around 130.
(Generally, in a suit decided on strict liability, fault or negligence of the manufacturer or the driver is not an issue. If injury occurs because of a defective product, the maker will likely lose even if it was not the carmaker's fault. The (easy) question is whether under-rated tires made the car defective. But a punitive award would require showing the manufacturer's naughty behavior.)
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You reach a point of diminishing returns at about 65MPH.
At max speed, you are feeding it as much as it will take!
Cool? I think it was really stupid!
Using an item in a grossly reckless way (like driving at 130+MPH) relieves the manufacturer from liability.
Any thought of limited liability would be little comfort to the loser of that lawsuit.
That lawsuit would most likely be lost (either originally or in appeal) by the ones who brought it up.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Do you have a link to this? Have you checked the tire for its rating? If it is V rated it will have a V on it.
The V-rating equates to 150 MPH.
Its actually 149 (yeah big difference) and its usually recommended not to exceed 85-90% of the tires speed rating. So with a V rated tire you shouldn't go more than 134 MPH.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Now, if the case went to court in California, it is a toss up. :confuse: Seems the juries in the cities will award huge sums of money for anything, but you can also walk on murder charges.
Come to think of it, there is a recall on Sonata for stability control dated back in 2005. Not nice, when it doesn't play nice. Not sure I really trust the device. Anyone know who manufactures the stability control used on Hyundai cars?