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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    We can go nuts w this Freeway shot>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    I'll name just one, so more can play :P - white 1960 Ford Country Sedan in the middle of the pic, similar to the red and white one my dad rescued in the early 90s.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Behind that, fintail, is a '58-60 T-bird in a nice aquamarine color. My uncle had a '60 in light brown with the Lincoln 430 V8, about whose speed many tall tales were spun.
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Anybody have any info about the technical specs of this car?

    I'm sorry I have no time to translate everything, yet I feel it is easily understandable, at least in the case of the main specs.

    Motor
    V6 2.965 cc.

    Potencia
    195 Cv.

    De 0-100 Km/h
    6,5 seg.

    Velocidad Máxima
    247 Km/h

    Producción Total
    150

    Transmisión
    5 Velocidades, Manual

    Cuando Guy Ligier dejó de jugar al Rugby, se volvió hacia el automovilismo: primero como piloto y luego como constructor de coches de Formula 1. No tuvo éxito en este tipo de carreras, por lo que se puso también a fabricar coches eléctricos que todavía pueden verse circulando por las calles de París. Ligier no hizo más que un coche deportivo, el JS 2. La iniciales eran las de Jo Schlesser, un amigo de Ligier que se mató en el Gran Premio de Francia de 1968 a los mandos de un Honda.

    Los primeros Ligier JS 2 llevaban un motor Ford de 6 Cilindros en V delante del eje trasero; el motor se cambio posteriormente por un V6 de origen Citroën-Maserati. Su diseño era puramente italiano, al gusto de la época, muy cercanos a los modelos asequibles de las casas como Ferrari o Maserati. Se trataba de un coche de aspecto dócil, pero gracias a su motor podía alcanzar velocidades cercanas a los 250 Km/h. Hacia el 73 las ventas del JS 2 cayeron drásticamente, teniéndose que dedicar a la fabricación de minicoches, hoy en día la marca aún pervive bajo la propiedad de Piaggio.

    (Those interested in the translation of a difficult passage, may ask for my fares. :P )

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    0-100kph in 6.5 sec is quite fast for a 1970s car. I'm not sure which Ford V6 they used. Back then Ford had no V6s of North American manufacture so it must've been related to the Cologne-built(?) unit they put in the Capris.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Back then Ford had no V6s of North American manufacture so it must've been related to the Cologne-built(?) unit they put in the Capris.

    Not quite. The 3.0L was the British-built Essex motor. It was used in UK-market Capris and Granadas, but the US versions of the V6 Capri got the German-sourced 2.6 or 2.8 Cologne engine instead, as did the Mustang II.

    Incidentally, most of the British collector car mags I've read seem to regard the Cologne engine as more sporting and more desireable. But it seems that specialty cars made more use of the Essex engine. Does anyone out there know why?
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Besides the 60 Ford wagon and 60 T-Bird, I think there is a 57 Ford, 56 Plymouth and maybe 54 Chrysler in right lanes, a 63 Ford wagon behind the white Chevy truck, a 62 Ford convertible by the 60 wagon, an old Ford panel van and ahead of it a 60 Chevy and maybe 61 Chevy wagon, a 59 Plymouth between the two faltbed trucks, and maybe a 55 or 56 Caddy in the left lane.
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Still uncomfortable with the car in the front-right site. Renault R4 is the closer model popping into mind when looking at the pic. However, R4's were actually smaller; and with a characteristic sort of metallic ornament in the front of the rear fenders, apart from that in the low part as shown in the pic . On the other hand, it is not a Citroën Light. The metallic piece in the low part of the rear fender was pointing characteristically ahead in any Citroen. Mmm… might possibly be a rare big R4 in the end?

    Regards,
    Jose
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Hi, Fintail, I feel sorry for my being late on this Fiat 2300. But, she has brought so many good memories to me!! My parents had a Seat 1500 (a Fiat 2300 Spanish sibling) in the late 60s. Less powerful (1500 cc) than the Italian model. Very well built nonetheless, durable and solid like a rock. Not having assisted steering wheel nor AC, I remember my parents sweating when parking the car in the streets in the warm Spanish summers. :shades:

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Renault R4 is the closer model popping into mind when looking at the pic

    Jose, I'm afraid you're barking up the wrong tree; perhaps you missed Fintail's post identifying it as a Puegeot 203. The R4 has a completely different station wagon/estate style rear end than the car at the right>

    Pug 203:image

    Renault R4:image

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Gulp, my bad, I meant to say 4/4 not R4. Anyway, Peugeot 203 is the car. I'm afraid I was in such a hurry catching up with past posts that I did not payed proper attention to Fintail's post. Thanks for the comment.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I believe that's a Fiat Dino Coupe. Note the almost total lack of any resemblance to the Fiat Dino Spider posted a couple of days ago.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,408
    Those weren't bad looking cars, along with the Fiat 1500 itself. The 60s really was the best time for styling.

    When did AC become common there?
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Through the 80s. My first car with AC was a Citroën BX 19 GTI bought in 1987.

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    I believe that's a Fiat Dino Coupe. Note the almost total lack of any resemblance to the Fiat Dino Spider posted a couple of days ago.

    Indeed, though they shared engines and chassis, the Dino Spider and Coupe shared not a single body panel. As was common practice among Italian makers of the era, different Carrozzeria were contracted to design and build coupe and spider bodies. Both were offered with 2 liter and 2.4liter engines based on the Ferrari Dino V6 design.

    Bertone did the four-seater coupe:
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    Pininfarina, the two-seat spider:
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Is that a line of Marcos cars behind the spider? I think I see at least a Marcos GT and a Mantis.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    The look like Marcos to me (what the heck is the plural of Marcos)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    I can't reply to Andy'spost, because for some reason the column of adverts on the right is obscuring the reply buttons, but the cabriolet is a Simca 8 sport of about 1953..
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Simca 8 sport of about 1953..

    Simca 8 Sport Cabriolet is correct, neat little car.
    IMCDB sez it's a 1950.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Last call for 21576! Here it is from another angle>

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    Going..going...

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Still can't access the reply button as the right hand margin is obscuring it. The red coupe appears to be a Fiat 8V but not with the regular coachwork.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Yes, it is a 1954 Fiat Otto Vu (8V) with non-standard bodywork by Carrozerria Zagato. It lacks the "Double Bubble" roof characteristic of most Zagato berlinettas but nevertheless it is a Zagato, and a rather one attractive at that.

    A number of 8vs were done by Zagato, Vignale, Ghia and others who figured they could make them a lot mnore attractive than what Stile Fiat came up with>

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Dodge "Colt Lancer" ca. 1977. Slightly smaller than the contemporary "regular" Colt.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Yup, it's a '78, nice hood alignment on that one. ;)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Looks like a 1946-1948 Lincoln Continental Coupe-Sweet. But I can't specify which year as I remember them as all looking alike...
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    1957 Imperial. (Crown?).
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep, but it's not a Crown.

    Spoiler
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Looks like a 1946-1948 Lincoln Continental Coupe

    Yup, it's a '47. I don't think they made model year changes on the Conti MK I or II.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    Well, if it's not a '57 Crown then it must be a plain Imperial Southampton (sp), but the confusing thing is that it has the optional quad headlights which I believe were pretty rare in 1957.
  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    1963 Thunderbird Convertible with the "Sports Roadster package" to mask the rear seats. I often wondered what folks see in this package--yes, it's "sleek", but it sure doesn't fool anyone....
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I agree with your assessment completely. It's like trying to hide the fact that you're driving a pickup truck by sticking a hard cover over the bed. Even the proportions are similar. . .
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Well, it's an Oldsmobile Omega, and I would hesitate a wild guess that it is a 1973 model.
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    You are correct, sir. The car in question is a 1973 Oldsmobile Omega, and I posted it because I couldn't find many good shots of the Buick Apollo, an equally misbegotten GM X-body. In 1973 there were four X-bodies: Nova, Omega, Ventura, and Apollo--spelling out N-O-V-A.

    By 1980 the X-body cars were Citation, Omega, Phoenix, and Skylark--spelling out C-O-P-S. I wonder if that is indicative of anything in particular. . .
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    You mean this one?

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Yep, that's the one pic I found, and I couldn't size it to suit me. The nose treatment on those reminds me of the Holden Torana (below):

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, Hudsonthedog says it's a Southampton. No idea about the headlights.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,229
    Funnily enough I wouldn't have known a Buick Apollo, but remember the Omega because when I got a copy of the Geogarno Encyclopedia of Automobiles in that year, it was one of the pictures of current cars in the colour section at the start of the book - just a typical US car of the day... An orange one, if I recall.....
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I owned one of these ... briefly.

    Whilst in college, I had the misfortune to total my '79 Pontiac Sunbird. The insurance settlement was $2000 and I only had 3 months to graduation ... but no job lined up afterwards.

    I thought briefly about a new car (this was late summer 1985) and talked to a Ford dealer about an Escort diesel .. he was willing to defer the payments ($150/mo!) until after graduation, but my parents talked me out of that plan.

    So, plan B was to find a relatively inexpensive used car. A '77 Olds Omega caught my eye. 350 V8, royal blue (repainted) with a white vinyl top. $1000 - sold!

    As I am not mechanically inclined, I didn't realize I had a problem until I went to get it smogged ... fail. Cost a couple hundred bucks to rectify. Discovered that it was really only running on 7 of the 8 cylinders.

    Sold it the day before I graduated for something like $200 ... just enough to pay for the rental car that got me back to CA for my post graduation job.

    Sigh.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
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    To know you'd have to remember when GM controlled half the US automobile market.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Umm, Harley Earl, in a '60 Corvette?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,669
    Wrong guy, not even close, and a little off on the MY of the 'Vette.

    Hint: the individual had nothing to do with GM, was awarded the Corvette for something he did in 1958, the car is either a '58 or, more likely a 1959 Corvette. ;)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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