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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    Found it! It took some doing but I found the red mystery car, it's a Honda 1300 (AKA N1300) ca. 1968-73, just as Lokki said it's air-cooled, fwd, primarily a JDM model.

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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    BMW 840Ci. Early '90s.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    BMW 840Ci. Early '90s.

    Absolutely!

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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,383
    I guess it's a just-postwar Opel Kapitan - almost identical to the prewar model.

    Looks like a prewar Opel Admiral behind it.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Actually, it's a prewar Opel Kapitan - 1938 model to be exact.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,383
    I think that might be a mislabeled photo....IIRC the prewar models had weird shaped headlights, and they became round after the war:

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    From a time when American design was the trendsetter.
  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    Honda 1300 (AKA N1300) ca. 1968-73, fwd, primarily a JDM model.

    Yes... that's it. Sochiro Honda (the founder) was a motorcycle guy, and he believed that air cooled engines were the best answer.

    Back in the 60's Honda even went Formula 1 racing with a transversely mounted fuel-injected 1.5 liter air-cooled V-12 with 4 valves per cylinder that reved to 11,000 rpm. They did well that year and actually won (fair and square - not because of accidents) the final race of the year.

    Legend said that the mechanics used watch-makers tools to work on those tiny engines. ;)

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    You may have to drill through to the eBay link to see the pic, but that'll spoil the guesses.

    It'll hop a 6" curb at 60 mph and not miss a beat?
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Izzat what my problem is?

    Darn eBay.

    Oh well, I thought it to be sufficiently unique to post here.

    Let's try again:

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    That worked. Looks like a perfect car for the LA freeways.
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    That worked.

    Yeah, it helps when you post the link to the .jpg file rather than the address.

    D'oh! :sick:

    EDIT: Ironically, that car is for sale in Southern California. Not too many ended up here in the States, apparently; but, more than the Porsche 959.
  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    Yep...its a 1300
  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    Ford RS200 `'86. Love that car
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    Oh yeah, I recall the HondaRA-272 creating quite a stir because of it's mechanical sophistication and potential speed back in '64-'65. Follow the link for a picture of it with it's clothes on.

    I'm a big fan of F1 cars from the "wheeled torpedo" era, in fact I'm researching a book on the history of Americans who raced in Formula One including Richie Ginther and Ronnie Bucknum who drove for Honda.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Audi S4, ca. 2000?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    Yep, Audi S4/B5, ca. 2000-2003 Imola Yellow.

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  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    I too am a big fan of the mid 60's Grand Prix cars..... No aero grip, narrow tires, plenty of HP in cars that weighed nothing.... Look at how thin the body work is on Ginther's car in that photo. You can see the thumbprints where the aluminum was touched.

    Yes, the 30's were just as dangerous but the cars were big and heavy... and roomy enough that you could try to jump and at least be a pretty corpse.

    I was a kid during the early 60's and Jim Clark was a hero to me. Ginther was brave, brave man.... but not foolish enough to drive the 3 liter air-cooled car that followd the RA-272.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    .. and roomy enough that you could try to jump and at least be a pretty corpse.

    One of the things I came across in my research was the lore of American driver Masten Gregory's trademark "bailouts". If he thought he was going to crash he'd stand up in the seat and pitch himself overboard (apparently he didn't wear restraints). He did this on several ocassions and sometimes injured himself but never seriously enough to cause permanent damage or even miss more than three or four races.

    Orginally from Kansas City Missouri, Gregory died in his sleep years after leaving racing.

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  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    Heres a good one. Some Le Mans fans may get it
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  • lokkilokki Member Posts: 1,200
    In 1968, Jimmy Clark wasn't going to be able to jump out of his car.

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  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    And another version:
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  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Turnten, you've got me crazy. That exotic car had to be derived from a Citroen, given the wheels (in the first pic) and body work. But I cannot remember any Citroen en Le Mans, and the shield on her bonnet is not from Citroen either. :confuse: :sick:

    Regards,
    Jose
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Hmmm. Is that an MVS Venturi?
  • jlbljlbl Member Posts: 1,333
    Now that Stephen has pointed to it, I'll second him. Here is a pic of the Venturi 400 GTR. :cry:

    Venturi 400 GTR

    Regards,
    Jose
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    In 1968, Jimmy Clark wasn't going to be able to jump out of his car.

    What an odd photo. No, Gregory probably didn't jump out of any low slung "rear-engine" cars like the Lotus JC is posed in. The "Kansas City Flash" began his F1
    career when taller, front-engined machinery ruled F-1, his favorite mount was the Maserati 250F>

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    ATS 2500GT.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    ATS 2500GT

    That's right about 127 were built ca. '63-'64 by Automobili Turismo e Sport
    in Bologna by Carlo Chiti and Giotto Bizzarrini walked out of Ferrari. After ATS folded Bizarrini went on to build his own supercars and chiti became chief engineer at Alfa.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    Venturi 260 and 260 LM. They raced the 400/500/600 version in Le Mans in the mid 90s
  • turntenturnten Member Posts: 21
    Audi 100 Quattro?
  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    I think that one's actually the Audi 200 Turbo Quattro.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    That's right Stephen, we knew it as the Audi 5000CS Turbo Quattro
    ca.mid 80s IIRC. Pretty nice cars.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Looks like one of the UAZ knockoffs to me.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    Nope, it's an AMC knockoff, made by the Adam Motor Company of Karachi, Pakistan in the mid-00's called the AMC Boltoro.

    Adam Motor is apparently out of business (since '08).

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stephen987stephen987 Member Posts: 1,994
    Mid-'90s Maserati Ghibli (the one based on the Biturbo, not the good one).
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    It's not easy to tell a Ghibli II from a Biturbo but you did it Stephen. Take a bow.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,591
    I do like those M3-like fender flares, though.. :)

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    I do like those M3-like fender flares, though

    Similar flares were used on other cars of the 1980's>

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    Anyone that can identify the car in #21906?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,591
    Mercury Capri RS... Looks to be a '79, from the wheels, I think... Mustang clone..

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
    The Capri was a mechanical clone of the 'Stang but had a different grille and fenders which resemble those on the E30 M3.

    Of course the Mustang/Capri were not the only automotive kin of the era differentiated by the big fender treatment.>

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,663
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,591
    944 vs. 924..

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,591
    Definitely alike, from that view...

    What is it with the tail lights on those wagons.. It's like they were trying to make them look dumpy.. :(

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