Mystery car pix

andys120 · May 2005

Pretty good, Fin, it's a 1954 Bentley Type R, they're highly prized in the UK among the collector set. Some came with special body work but the standard Mulliner coachwork was very nice indeed=>

andys120 · May 2005

but maybe someone can i.d. this one..

rsholland · May 2005

Easy; a Chevy Corvan, which was a van version of the rear-engine Corvair. They also made a pickup with a ramp side.

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/corvanatics/

http://www.mindspring.com/~corvair/fc1.html#models

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

Here's another

fintail · May 2005

Looks like a Fiat 1100 with some kind of special trim

andys120 · May 2005

Yep, it's got bodywork by Touring.

fintail · May 2005

Cool

Speaking of car photos, Here's a really cool site devoted to the cars owned by a Swiss family over a period of about 70 years

Period shots are always interesting

andre1969 · May 2005

At a first glance, this should be blatantly easy considering its name is on the hood, but there's something "special" about this car. Fintail might get it pretty quickly.

rsholland · May 2005

'56 Canadian Dodge. It's sort of a cross between a Dodge and Plymouth. The front is clearly Dodge, but the side chrome trim is Plymouth. The tiny (again Plymouth) fins are a tip-off that it's a '56 model.

Bob

andre1969 · May 2005

these cars were often known as "Plodges"...basically it WAS a Plymouth, with a Dodge front-end clip. This model was called a Mayfair. Chrysler also had an export model called the DeSoto Diplomat, which was a Plymouth with a DeSoto grille and some different trim put on. Main reason they did these rebadges is because big cars won't cut it in overseas markets, and back then a Plymouth body was smaller than a Dodge, and way smaller than a DeSoto.

Here's a pic of a '56 DeSoto Diplomat...

In looking at these pics, the Dodge and Plymouth must've been identical in '55-56 from the cowl forward, with the Dodge's extra length somewhere further back. Reason I'm thinking this is because for the Dodge version, they were actually able to fit a whole Dodge clip up there, fenders and all. On this DeSoto Diplomat, they just fitted a grille that resembled a '56 DeSoto's onto a Plymouth, using Plymouth fenders and everything, and just called it a day. And in that timeframe, a DeSoto/Chrysler was definitely longer than a Dodge or Plymouth, ahead of the cowl, so the whole front DeSoto clip never would've fit.

I've always liked the '55-56 Plymouth, but now, looking at the pic, I think the Diplomat front end actually looks a little better!

Still, it was on a 115" wheelbase, and probably around 200" long, if not more, so I doubt most foreign buyers considered these things "small" cars! :surprise:

It really struck me as odd when we saw it at Carlisle. We were walking up the hill, and I probably said something like "oh cool, a '56 Plymouth". But then I got distracted by something else when we got up there, and then looked back, at the front of the car, and was like, "cool, a '56 Dodge...hey, WAIT a minute!" It took me a few seconds to realize I wasn't seeing things!

rsholland · May 2005

Overseas Dodge trucks were sold as DeSotos. Check out the Aussie DeSoto UTS.

http://www.roadkillontheweb.com/truck.html

Bob

andre1969 · May 2005

I had never seen a DeSoto Ute before! BTW, did anybody ever come up with a "correct" term for that type of body style? I see that DeSoto was calling it a "coupe-utility", and I've heard Aussies just refer to that style as a "Ute". And here in the US, they usually just got called by their brand name...El Camino or Ranchero. I've heard them called "car/trucks" or "car-based pickups", but never did hear a technical term for them.

rsholland · May 2005

I think in Australia the name started out as "coupe utility," but just like "station wagon" (wagon) and "sport utility vehicle" (SUV), just over time got shortened to "UTE."

I think those early coupe utilities were based on our "business coupes," which were 2-door coupes with no rear seat, a small cab. but with a huge trunk. They were used by travelling salesmen back in the 1950s.

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

In Australia with thousands of square miles of rugged Outback, they like car-based utes but here in the USA we use 4wd pickups to go to the mall on paved super highways....in Florida!

Dodge trucks were sold as DeSotos in Europe as well. I came across a '54 DeSoto
panel truck in Switzerland recently.

andys120 · May 2005

rsholland · May 2005

Dodge trucks were sold as DeSotos in Europe as well. I came across a '54 DeSoto
panel truck in Switzerland recently.

Africa too.

Bob

fintail · May 2005

Looks like a SWB Mini Moke

andys120 · May 2005

'At's right, it's a bloomin Mini Moke.

andys120 · May 2005

rsholland · May 2005

AC Aceca-Bristol

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/ac_aceca_bristol.php

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

Right on the money, Bob. Here's one from our side....

rsholland · May 2005

Piece of cake... 1950 Studebaker pickup truck.

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

fintail · May 2005

Lancia Delta Integrale

andys120 · May 2005

Right Fin.

andys120 · May 2005

rsholland · May 2005

Lamborghini 250 Urraco.

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

Right again

This is what we'll be driving when gas is $4.00/gal

bumpy · May 2005

Daewoo Matiz rebadged as a Chevy for the European market by the name of...goes to look...M3X.

andys120 · May 2005

Daewoo Matiz rebadged as a Chevy for the European market by the name of...goes to look...M3X

Indeed but according to CAR (UK) it's simply called the "Chevy Matiz".

andys120 · May 2005

seminole_kev · May 2005

but it looks like a VW Corrado (spelling?)

andys120 · May 2005

Yep, it's a '90 Corrado G6, not the more desireable later VR6. Looks good in that photo though. And here's another to chew on.

rsholland · May 2005

One of my favorites, a Jeepster.

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

'51 Willys to be exact. Here's a tough one=>

stickguy · May 2005

That they should bring over here pronto. make an Si version too.

Ps this a fit? A jazz?

navigator89 · May 2005

That's a Honda Edix. It's be cool if they brought it here, however it might eat Element's sales.

andys120 · May 2005

That's a Honda Edix.

Good call Navigator. The funny thing is that when I posted it I was thinking of the name they sell it under in the UK which is Honda FR-V 2.0. I had to Google "Honda Edix" to see if it was the same car, apparently that's it's handle in the JDM.

I'm guessing there's a lot of CR-V underneath that nice bodywork but it sure eats the CR-vs lunch for looks. Beats me why they don't replace it with the Edix. :confuse:

andys120 · May 2005

rsholland · May 2005

'58  '60 Holden FC

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/richa306/pictures/thumbs/pages/04-Fc_jpg.htm

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

That didn't last long, not that I thought it would. Interesting car though in that if it had a
wraparound windshield it would be a 7/8th scale '56 Chevy.

rsholland · May 2005

Actually a 7/8 scale '55 Chevy, not '56.

Bob

bumpy · May 2005

rsholland · May 2005

Hard to tell, as the images are so small. Can you get them larger?

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

fintail · May 2005

Small pics = 1st-gen Hyundai Sonata

Red car = Maserati Biturbo

rsholland · May 2005

1984 Maserati Biturbo.

http://home.att.net/~mabc/

Bob

andys120 · May 2005

but available in Canada (where it was moderately popular)...

fintail · May 2005

Lada Niva (also sold as Cossack)

They do have a following too, yes. When I am around Vancouver I see them now and then.

There are some Lada nuts out there, much like the people who like Yugos, I think. There's been in ad in Vancouver area free classifieds off and on for some time from a guy who will apparenly buy any Lada.

bumpy · May 2005

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