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I placed my order with my dealer in Rye, NY for the Escape Hybrid on May 23rd, was told that one order had been placed ahead of me and was assured that I would have the car in September or October. A couple of days ago I checked up and was told by the salesman that manufacture of the Escape Hybrid had been suspended, that the dealership had received no deliveries of that car and was unable to say when it would. Since this is clearly one of Ford's most popular models, that is hard to believe. Has anyone else had any experience like this?
Mark F.
:mad:
I need to add to those who have one on order before 8-1, be sure to call your dealer and ask if they are going to increase the price $1030 when the vehicle if delivered to the dealership.
So, what have you heard about the car you have on order?
Ford needs to make more of them....drop the price somewhat (yes! they should immediately waive that $1030 increase they just installed) ....provide favorable interest rates for those that will put a minimum downpayment of $10K (cash/not trade)....and put some money into advertising this!
I'm buying Ford stock today (trading below $5) and hold onto it for a couple of years. I think they are finally geting positioned.
Receipt Date: 4/18/2008
Serialize Date: 8/7/2008
Segment Date: 8/7/2008
Sequence Date: 8/18/2008
Blend Date: 9/3/2008
Produced Date: 9/9/2008
Gate Release Date: 9/15/2008
Ship Date: 9/15/2008
Arrival Date:
Sold Date:
Yesterday I finally told her that I am to the point of needing a new vehicle, whether or not it's an FEH (convertibles are not conducive to rear-facing car seats) and that I never expected it to be 4 months and no end in sight.
She said if she couldn't get me a build date by the end of next week, she'd give me back my $500 deposit.
My dealer is in VA; I tried suggesting they could get one from Longmont Ford in Colorado (that another poster said had 3 on the lot), she said they couldn't swap unless they had an FEH to swap for one of the other dealer's FEHs.
But overall, it sounds like having a customer order a FEH and then cancel is a way for the dealer to get FEHs on the lot that they might not normally have been able to get as soon, so I wouldn't think they'd give you static about getting the deposit back.
He told me to expect delivery late Oct to early Nov. the day that I gave him the deposit and he was spot on, knowing what happened last year to his customers on the 2008 FEH orders so my patience paid off.
There is a dealer in St. James on Long Island, NY that has 3 of them.
Good luck
I have no idea what to ask the dealer about the electrical system/battery as to its fitness.
Does anyone know of an online buying guide that provides details on how to check an FEH out?
I'm hoping I don't have to sift through 1000s of forum posts to get an education on buying an FEH.
If not, what details should I ask the dealer to provide? For example, is there some indicator which identifies when the battery pack might need replacing? There is 104K on the odometer. Anyone driven an FEH farther? When did "things" start failing?
Thanks,
Andy
That said, we're all paying in the 30K range for the FEH. If Ford was really losing $500 per vehicle, there is no reason they wouldn't raise the price $500. We'd all still be buying it; that's not enough to adversely affect their sales (especially since some dealers are asking 1500-3000 above sticker!). I'd chalk that comment up to Salesperson BS.
On a happy note, I don't actually have a build date/VIN yet, but salesperson says I'm in the system to get built (finally! ordered June 3rd). Also mentioned that it shows up as that dealership having a FEH in stock (mine) and got a call from someone looking for one... who had ordered at another dealership and been promised 6 week delivery time. (insert eye roll). So.. maybe by the end of the year. Now, if anyone in the NC area is looking for a good deal on a convertible...
Order Receipt Date: 4/21/2008
Serialize Date: 8/14/2008
Segment Date: 8/14/2008
Sequence Date: 8/28/2008
Blend Date: 9/4/2008
Produced Date: 9/10/2008
Gate Release Date: 9/15/2008
Ship Date: 9/15/2008
Arrival Date: 10/20/2008
Sold Date: 10/21/2008
Keep in mind that serializing of 2009 FEH/FEHL's did not begin until 5/15/2008, even if ordered as soon as the ordering window opened back on 4/17/2008. Actual production began on 6/23/2008, so be careful how you calculate "how much time does to take from ...".
I have the opportunity to buy a used FEH in excellent condition (leather, navigation) for $13500.
Seems like great price but there are 106000 miles on it. It's from a dealer...no salvage title...just a lot of miles.
is this too many miles to make sense to buy this vehicle? Thanks in advance for your input!
Rick Lupert
there are literally none for sale around here.
it's not because nobody wants to buy one, the supply just is not here.
The Problem:
The LCD display will show that a song is playing (in my case, from an USB Hard Drive). However, there is no sound. You can see the song title, artist, etc., and see the song time incrementing, but there is no sound. You can turn the volume to the max, and still hear nothing.
Possible Solutions that Didn't Work:
- Cycle radio power
- Turn the car off and then back on
- Master Reset of Sync system
- Restoring Factory Defaults of Sync system
- Trying a USB Flash drive
Solution that Did Work:
- Removing Fuse #3 (15A Sync Module fuse) and putting it back in. (It wasn't even bad ... still good).
This was a solution I found on the Ford Sync forum on Blue Oval Forums. Apparently its a known problem and that's pretty much what Ford tech support recommends you do (or a dealership does).
As an embedded systems hardware engineer, it surprises me that this is the solution and that the other stuff didn't work. There must be some battery backup of the Sync module from the 12V car battery that removing the fuse takes away and allows a hard system reset.
But whatever ... easy fix! I hate for something to show up so early on, but if its that easy to fix, I'll put up with it.
And pulling this fuse is only for the Sync module, so your programmed FM/AM/SAT stations are still available - they're not erased. But your USB media will come up again as a new device.
April
Learning to trust my voice and the redundant controls on the steering column to operate SYNC was one of my biggest challenges, but I've overcome the need to look at the Navigation screen and push any symbolic buttons on that screen, something I'm sure other drivers are glad to hear. I've learned to just say "USB" once I plug my USB thumb drive in the slot and then "Play All" to play whatever mp3's are on it.
I've pretended to set up long range trips using the Dest button and even figured out how to put intermediate destinations into a previous trip.
My wife and I have taken one short (40 miles each way) trip to a place we had never been before and were pleased with the turn information, both visual and voice, that was provided. It pays to set up the trip a few days ahead of time, making good use of the Address Book to save destinations, even ones you only plan to use once. You can always prune them out of the Address book later on.
Using the bluetooth phone feature took a little getting used too, but I've figured that out, to the extent my particular cell phone can use it. Alas, the Nextel i870 can't use all the features I would like (Sync 1.1 doesn't recognize the phone's address book), but for answering calls hands-free, it works just fine.
I am having a problem with the volume on the SAT, it announces the name of the station but I get no sound. I have called sirius and they said I need to contract the dealer, that the car is receiving the signal fine. I guess I will try to get it in. Does anyone know about this? I wondered if a fuse would help. Thanks for the help.
Sky blue '08 Ford escape hybrid with 6000 (six k) miles. Leather, Limited package (heated seats/mirriors, mp3 etc)
Price 24K (tax would be another 2400 in my state).
Thoughts
--Almost did it. I like the idea that i can sleep in this car in a camp ground with the fold down seats, and id like to explore the US in the next year or 2. May be the perfect car for it bc of gas and sleeping. Would have added aftermark gps...1300 ish installed.
--I was thinking with the way things are hybrids will go down in value (esp used ones) along with everythign else.
--24k is alot for a used car (to me anyway, its relative)...
--I dont know they guy and though the milage could have been rolled back etc)
--Was an out of state purchase and it made me nervous. (500 miles one way for me to get a test drive/inspection)
Please let me know what you all think. Smart? Dumb? I know the price wasnt extremly high or extremely low...
1) I think the actual Limited package is new for the 09s. Not to say you couldn't have all the same options on the 08s.
2) My 09 Limited arrives next week (hopefully) - even with Xplan pricing, it'll be a bit over 28K. I think 1 year older for 4+K cheaper and not having a 6 month wait would not be a bad thing. I think I've seen asking prices for 08s that were closer to new prices for 09s. Have also seen dealers adding a 'market adjustment' of $1500 to new FEH prices, for that matter.
3) The 09s have more horsepower and perhaps some minor other changes... decide if you think those are worth waiting for.
4) for aftermarket GPS, I'd consider something cheaper , personally.
Good luck!
-Venita
The 2008s had the "Luxury package", I have in on my 08...
We went up on 3Jan, they insisted that price protection was not applicable to hybrids, and they wouldn't honor the original price. After various communication with Ford customer service, and with my deepest thanks to the gentleman on blueovalforums who posted a copy of the Ford email to dealers saying that all orders placed before August 1st were price protected, the dealership agreed to give it to us at the correct (lower) price. So we drove back up on the 10th (7 hours round trip each time) and got my hybrid... which I ordered June 3rd. Loving it!!!
Also, the salesperson said that all vehicle allocation is based on the number of vehicles of that model & option package... so if your dealership only sold 3 FEH's last year, they can only get 3 FEH's from Ford this year, unless someone releases an allocation they don't want.
I ordered a FEH in May and when I picked it up in September, I was told that only Lincolns had price protection. Reluctantly, I paid the new higher price.
After reading your post, I printed out the Ford letter you cited at blueovalforums and took it to the salesman on Monday. Today I received a check from the dealership for the difference. He said the dealership had not seen the letter.
So for all of you out there that placed a firm retail (even x-plan) order before August 1, 2008, you should get a copy of the letter.
Thanks again to vedpuy.
(Looking mostly at Sport non-leather + moonroof, invoice somewhere around $28K)
We're in WA, and I don't see a ton of FEH's on dealer-lots, but I've just started looking.
I got it on the X plan.
So HAPPY!
Robert
Have about 4,500 miles on it and getting anywhere from 30-34 mpg depending on where I am driving that week.
The backup sensors saved me from hitting a co-workers brand new car shortly after I started driving it. Love that backup sensor!
Bought it at Herb Chambers in Braintree - no pressure and a good buying experience.
I hope someone could advise me as to what things I need to look out for.
The car I am currently looking at is a Ford Escape Hybrid 2008.
AWD, moon roof, leather seats.
one owner
120,000 miles
the dealer is asking $15,000
Is this a good price ?
The miles seem a lot for a 2008, maybe I will need to change the battery pack, how would I know?
Thanks in advance.