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I've never actually been to a Kia dealership to check if they are options, but they are not listed anywhere on the Kia website.
Shredder
I did see 2 SE's at my near by dealer. One of them was going for 30k.
The Entourage does have a two year longer rust warranty, it has a little lower horsepower and a little higher torque, and some have said the fit and finish may be a little better with the Hyundai, but, from talking to a Hyundai rep at the auto show, reading forums, and my personal inspection, you pretty much choose one over the other based on which front end you like better.
Fitzmall
This is a reputable volume dealer. Their prices are very competitive.
I just entered this game, the last time I was minivan shopping was 1999. Since then I've put 140,000 miles on my Grand Voyager. And yeah, I don't want a Chrysler anymore. Ever.
I drove a Sedona last night- holy cow. I was very impressed. Nice tight driving, super comfortable feel. Nice controls, a plush level of features, super safe, and for the price, the base EX comes with tons of stuff my more expensive Voyager never had.
Anyway: I'm about this --> <-- close to buying one. Then I found out about the Entourage... so I compared. For me, I could take either I suppose.
Here's my financial news: KIA just started offering both a "Owner Loyalty" rebate ($2,000 if you own a Kia), or also a "Competitive owner" rebate (again- $2,000) - for those who currently own one of any of the major minivans out there (Ody, Sienna, Voyager, several others). Note- you only have to OWN one of these- you do NOT have to trade anything in. I called the Hyundai dude- and they have no such offers- only a $500 cash back deal at present. (Kia's $2K cash back goes to the end of May).
Since even the "base" Kia EX is a huge step up from what I have now, that's where I'm headed. I'll wait until my next van to get heated seats and power sliding doors.
Courtesy of my credit union, I'll get invoice pricing [$23,700 + $464 Marketing allowance]. Even after all the taxes and fees you gotta deal with, then subtract the $2K, my bottom line will be $24,383. Wow, you just can't beat that.
By then, I do hope they separate the memory seat and pedals from the expensive Entertaiment Package. I also hope Hyundai do their 2-3yrs minor restyling job and pretty it up a bit. That front grill is about as ugly as my '04 Sienna. Toyota wisely revised it this year; I'm sure Hyundai will too.
I actually like the Entourage's grill better than that of the Sedona.
As other posters have already pointed out. There really isn't too much difference between the two in regards to ride and comfort. The styling details are better on the Entrourage - the faux wood, the quality of the cloth seats. It just feels more upscale.
The Sedona EX with the power package was priced about $1,300 higher, but the dual power sliding doors come standard on the SE. The one thing that I wish the Entourage had was the power lift gate. Seems silly to hold it hostage in the Limited model. The EX's homelink and MP3 radio player were not that important to me.
Intro to Kia Entourage
http://www.carpages.ca/go/roadtest/2007_hyundai_entourage_preview.aspx
http://www.cartest.ca/2007_hyundai_entourage.htm
http://driving.canada.com/research/viewroadtest.spy?artid=60809
http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2006/112_news21/
http://lfpress.ca/cgi-bin/publish.cgi?p=137756&x=articles&s=wheels
I'm wondering why there are so many Canadian reviews and so few US. Because the Canadians got delivery at dealerships sooner, they're more into minivans than we are here in the US?
As far as "waiting for used ones"- you won't see them for a while, as the new redesigned models (sedona/entourage) are new NOW-- and they won't be on the used market for a year......
So far, very happy with my vehicle.
I hear you on the warranty though, that is good piece of mind. How does that 06 Sedona stack up against your old Voyager? I'll bet it is night and day...
I think the new Kia/Hyundai vans are the best thing that happened to us Odyssey owners.. I am a big fan of competition (it forces companies to innovate, and keeps pricing competitive)..
However, when I saw the Entourage yesterday, it was definitely a lot nicer than the Sedona. Not sure what Hyundai is doing differently, but it seemed like a much nicer van and the appointments, while not quite up to the Sienna's, were very attractive.
- Wood trim
- Sunroof
- Rain sensing wiper
- Adjustable foot pedals
- Cheaper monthly payment (about $45/month if 4 year lease)
Entourage only:
- Silver trim
- DVD
- MP3 Player
This is based on their web info. If I missed, someone please correct me.
As to extras, I plan to go ahead and get the cross rails and add them into the financing, as I did with our station wagon. I also plan to get the running boards which I believe will make it easier for a child and some elderly relatives to step up into the higher-floor-than-a-sedan minivan.
something else i'd buy is a 2 inch trailer hitch. (not necessarily from the dealer, but they'll install it free). you can haul all kinds of things that fit into a 2 inch receiver hitch. bike racks, ski racks, cargo platforms, closed compartments, etc...)
Rear parking sensors should be available on lower-end models as well... Within a few years all vehicles in the USA will be required to have at least one version of a backup assist... Why not offer it now standard on all models... Should be a part of the "safety" features which is standard on each model...
Also lacking 8 passenger seating falls short of Toyota & Honda...
And why only offer power liftgate on the top shelf models?
This is extremely frustrating, as they DO have all of these options listed on the Hyundai web site under the downloadable flyer for the Entourage:
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/images/shoppingtools/ebrochure/asset_upload_file529_13- 162.pdf
Since this van is currently for sale, can it be linked to the minivan form board?
Have fun!
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A new Hyundai Entourage: Prices Paid & Buying Experience discussion has been opened, so that those of you who've bought can share your experiences with those who are looking. You may notice that the most recent buying/pricing posts have already been moved over there.
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I recently helped my parents with a Sedona purchase. We chose the Sedona primarily because of the significant price advantage due to the rebates. They got an EX with Luxury and Power packages for $23,200. That included a $1500 rebate and a $2000 Competitive Bonus. They owned a minivan already that qualified them for the Competitive Bonus. The MSRP was $29,665, including a $670 destination charge.
The differences in the way Hyundai and Kia arrange their packages made a big difference, too. The only way to get the power adjustable pedals, power passenger seat, seat memory function and backup sensors in the Entourage is to get the Entertainment package, which my retired parents did not want. In the Sedona EX they were able to get all those features without having to get (and pay for) the high-line stereo and the DVD.
We actually preferred the exterior styling of the Entourage including the chrome accents. But, they got a gold Sedona and that color makes it look very nice. I did not like the black dashboard and steering wheel in the Entourage. The Sedona has a nice contrasting brownish dash and steering wheel (in the beige interior). Even though I prefer wood trim (faux or real), I found the faux trim in the Entourage kind of cheesy looking. I wish the Sedona had more faux wood trim, but I really like the trim it has on the center stack. Side note - the European model has the same Sedona faux wood trim on the doors like the Entourage.
And that's all I have to say about that.
I may be having the same issue, but I thought it was a normal operating condition. It feels like the Entourage slows down when I take my foot off the gas, especially around 30 mph. I just traded a 1999 Voyager, and it felt totally different , it seemed like the Voyager would coast forever when i took my foot off the gas (i was concerned then that the brakes would not last due to no assistance from the engine,) now it seems the Hyundai has the opposite condition, but is it a bad thing? Maybe you could describe what you mean by ........."low-speed engine braking"....... Thanks
Sounds to me like you might have a brake issue, & not a Tranny problem. I agree, it is very discouraging to have that happen on a new $30k vehicle as you drive off the lot. So much for electronics. Give me the old fashion mechanical stuff any day.
Did you NOT test drive the van before you took final delivery. You never know what may have happened to it coming from another dealer.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Anyway, once again, thanks for the NHTSA info. If anyone has any other suggestions as to where I should file a claim or any other places I can report this to try and get some action on having Hyundai address this, I would appreciate it.