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Incidently, The Fusion WAS NOT included in the recent recall which affected 500, Freestyle, and Escape Hybrid.
Honda isn't exactly recall free either. 2 weeks ago, not US cars were recalled in Japan and China for a defect that could lead to a fire.
http://www.hemscott.com/news/latest-news/item.do?newsId=36483599955321
Mark
And as someone else had mentioned, no recalls for the Fusion/Milan in any year yet.
Still a little disappointing it couldn't get 19 or 20 city.
Mark
I wonder if the CVT somehow skews the EPA testing...
Anyway, if the Edge's EPA numbers are closer to reality than the Murano's, it will be more than competitive in the MPG department.
Plus, from what a buddy of mine who worked in the Oakville plant said, the Edge has much better performance than the Murano.
And I just realized, the Edge gets it performance from regular gas, while the Murano needs premium to get its numbers. At gas prices around my house (Northern Virginia) that's 40 cents a gallon difference. That would more than make up for a possible 1-2 MPG difference.
Not true, Murano doesn't "require" premium gas, I owned one and never put in a drop of gas that wasn't 87 octane, ever. I would get anywhere from 22-24mpg's in pure highway trips on regular gas in a awd, so I'd have to argue against that statement. Performance wise, I have no clue, but gas wise, the epa numbers on the hwy side at least, were close to accurate.
Hyundai was not known for its quality also but you'd be remise to judge them based on their past and overlook their current efforts. Ford as well hasproduced very reliable cars in the Fusion and 500. Recalls happen to every brand. It is not fair to point the finger at Ford when Toyota, quality chief for years, has had recalls as well. And Hyundai is lifted on a pedestal for changing its act but people won't let you forget Ford's troubled past. We have to be fair and reasonable and judge things for how they are today. Ford hired someone from Toyota to oversee quality even after the Fusion came out and the Fusion has been a very high quality and reliable vehicle so far. I think the Edge will be fine. I think you and your wife should really look into the Fusion's reliability numbers and not look at just opinions and here/there examples. I think you will be very surprised with what you see.
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061017/FREE/61016021/1041/TOC01- ARCHIVE
Hyundai Sonata Recalls To Date:
2006 Hyundai Sonata
Recall Date: JUN 26, 2006
Component: EQUIPMENT:OTHER:LABELS
Potential Units Affected: 43301
2006 Hyundai Sonata
Recall Date: MAY 22, 2006
Component: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
Potential Units Affected: 463
2006 Hyundai Sonata
Recall Date: AUG 29, 2005
Component: SEATS:FRONT ASSEMBLY:RECLINER
Potential Units Affected: 36000
2006 Hyundai Sonata
Recall Date: JUL 07, 2005
Component: SUSPENSION:AUTOMATIC STABILITY CONTROL (ASC)
Potential Units Affected: 1970
a very positive review of the new Edge
Mark.
The excellent quality statistics now coming in one the Fusion, Milan, and Zephyr/MKZ on which the Edge and MKX are based should also shown you that these are not 1980 models in any way.
How can people be reviewing a vehicle, that hasn't even hit the showroom floors yet??!!?!?!?!?!!!??????????????????
VB
There sure are a lot of people who just want to bash one company or another.
Some of those reviews are very funny and totally false.
MSN should be ashamed about letting these on before the car has retailed anywhere.
I like the guy who says "would anyone like to buy this from me"
Drop MSN a note and they'll likely fix it.
Mark.
Ford's not-so-edgy edge
New crossover utility vehicle does just what it's supposed to -- but without much pizzazz
Michael Taylor, Chronicle Auto Editor
Sunday, October 29, 2006
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The whole thing about the new Ford Edge is that there isn't that edge, that implicit idea of a sharp, angular pusher-out of the norm. Instead, the car has more of a comfortable rounded feeling, almost like a bouncing ball, and I'm not sure if that comes from the overall somewhat round design or simply a temporary wish on my part to contradict Ford press agentry and allow myself to see the vehicle for what it is.
Ford picked San Francisco as the place for its national launch of the new Edge and set up shop in the St. Regis Hotel. Then they commandeered Justin Herman Plaza as a place to edge in a few display Edges and provide the nation's automotive press with myriad engineers and public relations specialists to tell us all about this new car. It was informative.
Fortunately, the big automaker allowed me and my Cnet colleague Wayne Cunningham several hours by ourselves in one of their new beasts, driving it on a pristine afternoon, from Tiburon out to Point Reyes and then back into San Francisco (slogging through rush-hour traffic).
Ford says the Edge is the most important launch of any vehicle all year, and if you take a careful look you can see why. The Edge is a crossover utility vehicle, or CUV, which means that it wants to cross back over the line that separates cars from trucklike SUVs, built on truck platforms and given to ride much like a truck. CUVs, the automakers say, are essentially more carlike than trucklike.
Ford labels a lot of its SUV/CUV litter with names starting with the letter "E." So it's interesting that at no time did we hear mentioned the names Excursion, Expedition or Explorer, the big SUVs that are languishing on Ford lots. The purpose of the Edge demonstration seemed almost to be one of "we are looking ahead, not behind." Which may well be a good thing.
The Edge is essentially a five-passenger CUV with a large cargo area behind the second row of seats. Its price will run from roughly $26,000 to an optioned-up $36,000. There's a choice of front-wheel-drive and all-wheel-drive, and the gas-mileage figures are, respectively, 18/25 (city/highway) and 17/24. One mile-per-gallon down for the security of that extra two driven wheels isn't bad. In addition, Ford says every safety system available for their vehicles will be standard on the Edge, including "roll stability control."
The Edge's styling was something like a beefed-up Fusion, which shouldn't be surprising -- they share a platform (along with the Mercury Milan and the Lincoln Zephyr). The Mazda 6 is the grandfather platform for the Edge (and the Fusion), according to Ford's Rich Kreder, engineering manager for noise, vibration and harshness, but for the Edge's sometimes edgier performance in the boondocks, the platform was strengthened to the extent that it is more like Mazda's upcoming CX-9 CUV. (Ford, by the way, owns a big chunk of Mazda.)
You can see big portions of the Fusion in the Edge simply by starting with the Edge's three-slat chrome grille. That, in fact, may be the most striking similarity.
The Edge is powered by a new 3.5-liter V6 engine, churning out 265 horsepower through a new six-speed automatic transmission. The car is due in showrooms in November. Ford says its immediate competition is Toyota's Highlander or the Honda Pilot, both highly successful CUVs that actually look more like SUVs and all this is getting kind of blurry ... SUVs, CUVs ... so they are beginning to look and sound the same.
But Ford also says that Nissan's Murano is probably the closest similar vehicle, and with that comparison, I think, they're probably being the most accurate. Both cars -- let's call them cars, too -- have high slab sides and proportionately smaller greenhouses. I think the Murano's design is more outlandish; its wheels and tires, although the same 18-inch size as the larger of two sizes available on the Edge, seem, somehow, bigger and more brutish. Maybe it's the overall design of the Murano, which seems more aggressive and different. Perhaps, at some point over the past few years, Ford had an Edge design study that was equally outré, but it was crushed a couple hundred million development dollars ago, and we'll never know about it.
So the final Edge, the one we got to play with, seems more subdued. Maybe that's all to the good, because it doesn't attract unwanted attention. It is what it is, which is neither utterly plain nor head-turningly different. Then again, on a larger scale, you might say that's what is wrong with parts of the U.S. auto industry. They don't make starkly different-looking cars. Other countries do. Think of the Scion.
On the road, the Edge acquitted itself quite well, thank you. Ford did make it ride like a car, and the suspension damping obscured most of the Marin County potholes we encountered. With the windows rolled up, the leather-appointed cabin was quiet, but there were some design nits that came to light, things that should have been seen months ago. (In fact, Ford said that in production cars a section of dashboard material that produced glare in the test cars would be changed.)
A few other things they might think about in the next go-around of the Edge: grab handles are handy; put some in front. There are two in the rear. Also: make it possible to completely close off the two center dash air conditioning vents, or at least more radically redirect the air from them.
Once you're riding down the road, you do get the feeling of sitting up high and that you are looking out over a long expanse of dashboard and hood. Fortunately, there isn't a cramped, low-overhead feel that might be imputed from the relatively shallow height of the cabin itself.
The vaunted power of the Edge really didn't come through, however. Floor the thing and it takes a while for those 265 horses to start hauling more than two tons of Edge down the road. There's a lot of flailing engine noise as the whole of it seems to gather steam -- a lot of shouting before stepping off on the long march, so to speak. But it doesn't have the same kind of right now power you might find, say, in Ford's Edgy cousin, the Fusion. But then again, the Fusion weighs half a ton
As the author of the article has a website with message boards, it probably also violates Edmunds user agreement. I just had a post removed on another thread for referring to other sites, the Moderator citing the following.
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Ford's not-so-edgy edge (SFGate.com)
I don't see any blatant promotion of other car forums in there, so no biggie.
He's still violated the Copyright.
Perhaps anyone in Oakville want to spill the beans about this?
Up where it says "You are here: Forums SUVs Ford Edge 2007 Ford Edge", click on the Ford Edge link to find the other discussions or add your own.
And if you haven't played with the tracking buttons, they are an easy way to read all the new Edge posts (or you can just track one or two discussions). Recommended!
How do I find out if there are new posts in a group without clicking on each and every group? I don't want to track 50,000 individual forums but I don't want to have to click on each one to check for new posts, either.
And getting an email is not a viable option.
Then you can untrack any discussion(s) that doesn't interest you. Any new discussion will should up in the tracking.
Click on My Tracked Items to see a list of what's new or just click Read New Posts and you can read them then.
The Help FAQ explains it better:
What is "My Tracked Items" and how do I use it?
The Fusion/Milan forum had several new posts each day. Hasn't been more than one or two posts in the last week since the forums were split.
To bad they are not for sale,
So it looks like production is under way. The MKX especially looks sick!
Mark
I talked to my salesperson this afternoon and she said that the Ford Rep was at their dealership today. The rep arrived via a Blazing Copper SEL Plus and that it was gorgeous. My salesperson said that she was able to take the Edge for a spin and that it was wonderful! Smooth riding, Comfortable & Quiet. She told me that I was going to LOVE mine. She said that she had to have one after driving it. Of course, I asked her why she didn't call me to let me know that there was one there. :confuse:
The good news was that the Ford rep checked on my order while she was there and everything is moving as scheduled. It's on the line this week!
Its how we find out which vehicle is better. Lower weight with good crash protection is the goal, and its a measure of how well the engineers did. The result is how much value one gets for ones money. I also want this country to stop wasting gas because a car company can't get it together.
You do realize that MS didn't invent the word "vista" right? :P