Saturn Outlook, GMC Acadia and Buick Enclave

07xle · January 2007

You don't need a stupid card!!!!!!!!

Rebates

$500 Cash to Customer start: 01/04/2007 end: 01/02/2008
Restrictions - Bonus Cash is available to Active and Reserve military personnel. Dealer participation may vary.

$1000 Cash to Customer start: 01/03/2007 end: 02/28/2007

Restrictions - Conquest Bonus Cash is available to customers who currently own or lease a non-GM vehicle (non-Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, GMC, Saab, Saturn, or HUMMER). See dealer for details. Consumers are not required to trade in their current vehicles. Dealer participation may vary.

Financing Start: 01/03/2007 End: 02/28/2007

4.9% APR Term: 36 months
5.9% APR Term: 48 months
6.9% APR Term: 60 months
7.9% APR Term: 72 months

Restrictions - None. Dealer participation may vary.

zman3 · January 2007

Unless of course they'd like to stack the other $1000 incentives on top of the rebates you listed.

I know the GM card is offering to bump my earnings by $1000 if I buy an Acadia, but someone else claimed they got a $1000 rebate offer from GM directly.

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer $2000 to $1000 Conquest only.

hardhawk · January 2007

I think you should be able to get the $1000 conquest cash if you qualify, the $1000 GM card bonus if you have one, and the $1000 coupon direct from GM if you have that. That's a sweet $3000 total reduction plus the remaining GM card allowance to boot if you have the dollars in the GM card account!

zman3 · January 2007

I didn't want to come across as greedy.

readerreader · January 2007

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServlet?target=http://image.emerald.gm.com/gm- - news/viewmonthlyreleasedetail.do?domain=74&docid=32406

The front-wheel-drive Enclave CX starts at $32,790, while the all-wheel-drive model starts at $34,790. The front-wheel-drive Enclave CXL begins at $34,990, while the all-wheel-drive version starts at $36,990. Prices include a $735 destination charge.
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Click the link for more.

arumage · January 2007

Greedy is fine when you're spending around $30k. I'd definitely be greedy. :P

ghtrap · January 2007

All I've been able to see in person in the Acadia so far has been the light Titanium interior color. It looks OK, but it has a black carpet. People have test driven it and the carpet looks terrible as every little dusty footprint shows up badly against the black carpet. I don't think I'd be able to stand for much of that. Has anyone seen an interior color that doesn't include BLACK carpet? How about the Brick color interior? Does it look good and how about the color of the carpet? This is probably enough of an issue that I'll wait to order one until more choices are available.

loach · January 2007

The two Acadias I saw in person each had black carpet. One had black seats and the other the light titanium. I think the black carpet may be the only color available, and yes, it's a problem. It showed every footprint. If I get a Lambda, I may be waiting for the Enclave (or maybe different colors will be available for 2008).

1487 · January 2007

I think the enclave pricing is right on the money. You can see all the options and colors at http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/ if you want.

The Enclave comes with a lot of stuff and for a luxury SUV its a value as far as I can tell. I'm sure the options will be expensive but it comes with a lot of good stuff standard.

gregnw44 · January 2007

Don't know if this has been discussed before... But does anyone know about a feature that GM appears to have left off, of this newly designed vehicle??
Fold-flat front passenger seat !!
This is a very practical feature that any newly designed SUV or Van should have. Anyone who sometimes carries a lot of cargo (especially long stuff) would love this. Sienna, Freestyle and I'm sure many others have it.
Why wouldn't this BRAND new, supposedly practical, crossover have it??
If it did...
I'd buy one in a New York minute, or second, whatever

newz54 · January 2007

My dealer told me their are no gold mist metallic's in the entire country. He said 8 to 12 weeks for delivery. So it appears they are only making the most popular colors.

redroverdog · January 2007

The reason why there are no gold mist's in the counrty is that they screwed up the paint color and they had to redo it because they only did the most popular colors first.

carnutpa · January 2007

I believe the Acadia has the heads up display (digital display on windshield) but the Outlook doesn't. Does anyone know if it is avalable on the Enclave? I have not seen any reference to it.

albook · January 2007

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! How cheap is that!?!? I think they priced it too low. They should have priced it at 35g. It would make GM more money and still be well under MDX/Q7 price. Well, only better for the consumer. They must have done this because with all the options, it must have climbed well into the forties. Well, if that's not the case, there's no way I'd buy Acadia-I'd get this. It's so pretty.
About the fold down seat, this should be one of the minor conveniences offered on the lambdas (And I'm not sure it isn't) but If you need a feature like this so badly, you shouldn't be looking at a CUV- or minivan for that matter (if you get my drift).

62vetteefp · January 2007

they screwed up the paint color and they had to redo it because they only did the most popular colors first.

Where did you get this info?

62vetteefp · January 2007

Which vehicles out there offer fold flat front pass. seat?

I know of a few only-Grand Prix is one of them.

bobw3 · January 2007

Edge, Freestyle

redroverdog · January 2007

I got this info from my dealer. i ordered a gold mist acadia and our delivery is delayed by 3 weeks because the first batch of gold mist paint was screwed up.

ral1960 · January 2007

The soon-to-depart Malibu Maxx

vinracer · January 2007

The Edmunds "First Drive" article has a picture of the Acadia with the tan interior. It looks like the carpet is black. Other pictures I've seen with a lighter interior color have lighter carpets. The Edmunds "Full Test Report" article has pictures with a beige interior and beige carpets.

nxs138 · January 2007

Told a few people last I was looking to buy a new SUV, and mentioned the Buick Enclave was very nice looking. Their answer: I'm too young to buy a Buick!

I think the Enclave will need a brand new advertising campaign to get past that mentality, something that doesn't just involve a golf player conservatively driving the Enclave.

force99 · January 2007

Strange. I received a similar "Private Offer" coupon from Chevy, offering me $1000 cash back on Silverado, Sierra, and Avalanche. Mine only allows $500 off the Acadia. Same dates apply.

loach · January 2007

The full test article is about the Outlook, not the Acadia. Those pictures of the beige interior are of the Outlook.

newz54 · January 2007

Those of you that have gotten discount coupons in the mail from gm....do you have any idea why they sent them to you? Had you requested info on the acadia or did you just sign up for a gm credit card? Any suggestions how to get the discount?

force99 · January 2007

Mine says "You have been a loyal Chevrolet customer. We want to thank you by offering you this special "Private Offer"....etc.

I guess it's because I purchased a new C6 Corvette.

nxs138 · January 2007

They should have priced it at 35g. It would make GM more money and still be well under MDX/Q7 price.

Well if a fully loaded Acadia reaches near $46k mark, then the Enclave will likely reach the $50k, so I think you're right about starting with a lower price because of expensive options. Then again, not many will option everything out, so the base price is quite attractive.

readerreader · January 2007

And exterior:

ghtrap · January 2007

I called my dealer and told him I wouldn't be ordering the Acadia at this point because of the black carpeting. He stated that he hadn't seen a Brick color interior but was afraid it would also come with black carpeting. He also said that his dealership is just screaming because every time a customer comes back from a test drive in an Acadia the carpeting looks filthy. So, it isn't just me.

I have now looked at an Outlook, and even though I like the exterior styling of the Acadia better, the Outlook has MUCH better interior color choices. I may consider an Outlook or even wait now until I can look at an Enclave.

GMC!--- Why only black carpeting?

kenym · January 2007

I was watching the program Motor Trend magazine on our PBS station Saturday and they did a piece on the GMC Acadia. It looked just like a smaller version of the GMC Envoy and at about the same price. :confuse: Perhaps the Outlook and/or Enclave will be different looking vehicle than what Saturn or Buick offers now but the Acadia sure wasn't. At least the Envoy has been around awhile and should have most of the bugs worked out. Not like a first year GM vehicle is going to have :shades:

spratman · January 2007

Currently have a Honda Odyssey and am very excited about this new GM line. However, yesterday I sat in the back seat of the acadia and was totally disappointed. Seats appear to be WAY too low to the ground that makes them very uncomfortable and very little thigh support. I tried sitting in both the bench seat and the captain chairs and felt the same thing.

I'm 6'1 and 195 lbs and my wife who is 5'5" and 130 lbs felt the same way. Our kids are 10 and 13 with my 13 year old son being bigger than my wife so I'm concerned.

What do u guys think and will the Buick Enclave address this issue???

Thanks in advance for your opinions...

kjf18 · January 2007

If you get the Envoy and Acadia side-by-side, they do not look that much alike (in my opinion). I saw them at the local auto show a week ago, and again at a local dealer. Also, the Acadia is quite a bit larger on the outside (8 1/2 inches longer and nearly 4 inches wider; it actually is very close in dimensions to a Tahoe/Yukon), and much roomier inside (max cargo space in the Envoy is 80 cubic feet vs 117 in the Acadia).

Motor Tend has published a "first look" at the Acadia, in which it compares the Acadia and the Envoy: First Test: 2007 GMC Acadia"

In person, they simply are not in the same league (again, in my opinion).

Kelly

bobw3 · January 2007

Did you notice if you had to climb up higher to get into the rear seats of the Acadia as compared to your Odyssey. Just wondering if maybe the reason the Acadia seats seem low to the floor is to get them better headroom, but if the floor is basically flat front to back, it seems like the front seat height and rear seat height would be about the same.

62vetteefp · January 2007

GMC!--- Why only black carpeting?

I do not know but I have an all black interior in my Envoy and have no complaints. It does not seem to get that dirty. I know it is a lot better than those light cream interiors like the VW's have/had. They get dirty and will not come clean.

I love the sportiness of the black/tan interiors that started with the german vehicles.

readerreader · January 2007

albook · January 2007

I know you guys will disagree strongly with me about this, but they should have been smart like Acura in their packaging. Think about it. MDX starts at 39g, and packages comes to 7grand extra, with few options. In this way, GM could keep it simple, and price down. i know DVD and NAvi shouldn't be in this mix, but cold weather packages with heated mirros and power liftgate should be. They could raise enclave's price 2500 to do this. Still a great deal. And simple. Only options should be DVD, NAvi, wheels, and paint.
About fold down seat, This wasn't really smart of GM- who was the first to think of this great innovation- to not include this in Acadia if they did not, but like I said, If you really need this option, you probably need a TRUCK!

albook · January 2007

To correct my last statement, they pretty much do make options simple. Only options were dual sunroof, DVD, Navi, and wheels. Pretty good! To save money, it would be nice if you could delete rear sunroof, but option is already cheap!

rvroamer · January 2007

"...they did a piece on the GMC Acadia. It looked just like a smaller version of the GMC Envoy and at about the same price."

Looks must have been deceiving, then, because the Acadia is MUCH larger than an Envoy, just about any way you measure it. Check the specs on the GMC website.

9 inches longer, 37 cubic feet more volume, 2-3 more passengers, 650 lb more GVWR, etc. About the only place the Envoy is "bigger" is in horspepower (+16) and torque (+24).

62vetteefp · January 2007

You need to look at the old extended Envoy to compare to Acadia.

readerreader · January 2007

From:
http://www.saturnfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92743

readerreader · January 2007

spratman · January 2007

I believe the floor board is the same front to back for the first two rows and that is probably the problem. In the front seats your legs are extended outward and thus you are in a comfortable position especially with the thigh support in the front seats. However in the 2nd row you can't extend your legs outward and the seats are much shorter and thus less thigh support. Obviously in cars, the floor board is sunk in the back and in vans I guess the 2nd row captain chairs are so tall they are comfortable.

Regardless, I can't justify the lack of passenger comfort. I sincerely hope they address this issue if they want to win over more families.

readerreader · January 2007

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrxX2QqxZTU

62vetteefp · January 2007

Thanks, since about 2 years ago we got a DVR and never watch the commercials anymore.

62vetteefp · January 2007

I love the black and dark brown interior.

blindbat · January 2007

I drove a white Acadia with tan seats and carpet - looked nice.

kenym · January 2007

GM is producing two very similar cars under the same brand name of "GMC" with similar looks, size and pricing. Than add in the other two look alike GM vehicles the Outlook and Enclave and you have four vehicles with similar looks and pricing competing among them selves. :sick:
Than I hear the GM executives saying something stupid like wonder why Honda and Toyota is making money and we aren't. I know it's not important too anybody else but I just don't get it and I don't think GM does either. :shades:

myoutlook · January 2007

So I took my dad to test-drive an Outlook. He was a passenger, and he immediately noticed the acceleration lag. Dealer says I'm the first person to question it, and he's sold 5 in the last week or so. I emailed Saturn; awaiting a response. If they're not fixing the issue anytime soon, I'm not buying an Outlook anytime soon.

bobw3 · January 2007

If you look at the photo above of the rear seats, it looks like to me that the seat bottom is really angled back rather than horizontal. Maybe that why they feel funny?

As a point of reference, I measured the vertical distance from the top/front of the rear seats to the floor, and it was about 15" for both my Freestyle & Fit (anyone know the measurements for the Acadia/Outlook?). The rear seats bottoms are also pretty horizontal...not totally, but definitely there's not any steep angle back. The Caravan was another vehicle with really angled rear seats. Sort of reminds me of the rear seats in 2 door sporty cars.

gregnw44 · January 2007

Hey there "albrook"... Thanks for replying to my message #1483 (two times), wondering why GM wouldn't have put a fold flat seat back on the front passenger seat. (I looked, and they didn't.)

But I don't understand your replys... one the one hand you're saying yes, they should have included this feature. But on the other hand you're saying I shouldn't even be considering these vehicles... SUV's, CUV's, and minivans. That I should be looking at trucks.

My take on it, is this: vans, suv's and cuv's are about carrying people and cargo in various ways. Remember what the "U" stands for... Utility. I just don't see why GM would have not included this feature:
1- It gives you the capability to carry much longer cargo, on the rare occassion that you might want to (which I do).
2- Some of their competition has been providing this feature for a number of years now.
3- It's cheap to add.

And, No, I don't want to buy a truck. My Dodge AWD Grand Caravan (which doesn't have this feature) already carries longer cargo than most trucks. And it has all the other features I want, that a truck doesn't offer. But I'd like to carry even a little longer cargo.

Anyway, since GM didn't include this, I'll be looking at other rigs when it's time to replace my van.

readerreader · January 2007

What is "similar" about the Envoy and Acadia?
Seating?
Power?
Refinement?

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