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Hal2001
Stop all the hand wringing over aftermarket wood dash trim kits and the missing pieces. Just buy the Hyundai wood dask kit for $175.00 and you won't have to sweat fit, gaps, etc. Looks great!
Hal2001
They conveniently left it off their web site. I guess they don't want to be bothered answering questions/complaints, etc.
It would be perfect to have the EMail address for the National Sales Manager and the President/CEO.
I too experienced the dealer trying to add in an "advertising fee" to inflate his invoice cost and I would like to report this to Hyundai. It's
total BS and consumers shouldn't fall for it.
That is the same kind I put my name in for....Color--blue or black.
Thanks
Having said that they might be willing to cut you a deal IF you buy the vehicle as soon as it arrives on their lot. Why? Because they didn't have to spand any of the money.
Now if the vehicle has been sitting for more than a month or so then the advertising money from Hyundai is all but gone.
You have to make the best bargin you can and this money is not yours to deal with, it's the dealers profit and if he doesn't have to spend it he might be willing to drop the price to you.
You know you can read all this on the Edmund's site anyway.
I know that doesn't help much but that's the way it is. All manufacturers do the same thing it's not brand specific in any way shape or form.
Richard
It's important to look at the total deal, not every line item.
A bit more info on the legitimacy of ad fees is here:
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Go to dealer and ask for Accessories catalog. If they don't have fold out brochure for the Santa Fe, check the parts department. They should have a large full color catalog with accessories for all vehicles in the Hyundai line.
So as far as trying to call HQ and tell them a dealer is charging a fee, they will tell you YES.. there is a fee charged by HQ and the dealer can charge a fee for their ad costs, (ie..newspaper, radio, t.v. ad spots.)
I am hoping to go get my GL on Sat. I am in Kentucky, and there are alot of the SF here. One dealer here has 10 on the lot, in all shape sizes and colors.
** NEWS FLASH ** It has been reported to me by sources that Budweiser is going around the country and buying SF's for use in their fleet vehicle program. Dealer I spoke to said BUD-MAN came in and bought 4 paying $1,000 over invoice. So be on the look-out !The King of Beer is driving the King of SUV'S
I think it's the same guy.
Here's another challenge(you ignored the first one):
Call HMA tomorrow and ask the question again.
If the rep. tells you that HMA charges dealers ad. fees, get
the person's full name/title and post them here. ok?
The URL for the series teaser is at:
http://www.gr8ride.com/cgi-bin/pm/common/feature.jsp?channel=Truckin&community=SUV&oid=104636
Who do you work for?
You're a sales manager, right?
Salesmen/women rank themselves pretty much at about the same level on the food chain as lawyers for the most part. ( one of them told me that) They know how it feels if they are good salemen. They know we consider them bottom feeders and the good one's try to change that interpretation buy working with you and not jamming it up your nose. They aren't going to go for broke but they will honestly work to get you a deal you can live with. That's the sign of a really good dealership. The key is Honesty really.
I've purchased two new Jeeps and one new Eagle from a dealership that the average working time in service is about 11+ years. Now that speaks volumes to me. It means that they are happy working there and to be that happy they must be selling cars to some very satisfied customers. Some of the mechanics have been there over 17 years. Repeat satified customers is my guess.
I just didn't want another Jeep and well, they don't make Eagle's any more no do they? Other than the Talon of course. Buy the Mitsubishi it's the same thing and cheaper too.
Wander around and ask questions, after all, it's your hard earned money and a good dealership will understand that. They should also allow that in my not so humble opinion. I'm lucky, I've found a Hyundai dealer who was willing to let me do just that. Went in again this morning just to say hello and was treated like royality.
Good dealers may be hard to find but they are out there. More than you might think as it's the bad one's we tend to remember right?
Richard.
First let me say "Thanks for serving" I was in back in the early to late 1960's.
Now as to new all I can tell you is what my dealer told me. I'm in Florida now and no, not "Wrinkle City" either :-) Not far from being there though.
My dealer said that in the State of Florida any vehicle with less than 4,000 miles is considered as new. That means that the salesman of the month, the sales manageer or anyone who gets a car for their own use from the dealership can drive it up to a certain point.Then they swap it out for another. Have to keep the miles down. Most of those can be demos as well.
As I said, that's here in Florida, don't know about other states. 4,000 miles and it's still new 4001 and it's used.
Richard
Thats not the answer though to your quest for a rear spoiler. Again, it is in the Hyundai Santa Fe accessories catalog. It is $85.00.
Your dealer may not stock all the Hyundai accessories but the parts department can order any Hyundai accessory from Hyundai distribution
source.
Suggest you go to any Hyundai dealer, look in the accessories catalog, and have the parts department special order it for you if they do not carry it in stock. The part number is 0022771000 and it is called a "rear deflector".
I realize you see many messages taking pot shots at dealers and salespeople. Some of it is deserved and some is not. Many time potential buyers go into a dealership with a chip on their shoulder without first giving the dealer an opportunity to prove what type of policies the dealership follows (or attempts to).
As you well know, there are still way to many auto dealerships that haven't awakened to the fact that consumers are better informed than in the past and they can spot BS when they encounter it.
I've purchased many new cars down through the years and am amazed at the number of salespeople who still try the old methods of selling cars. I'm sure it must work for them or they would starve. Shame on the uninformed consumers who become their victims and then bad mouth the entire auto industry for their own stupidity.
Any business today that doesn't understand true customer service beginning at the front door and ending at the service exit door isn't going to be around for long. Part of good customer service is honesty in pricing and good faith negotiations. For every "sucker" they manage to snag, they will lose ten deals to better run and managed dealerships. Any business needs to make a reasonable profit and no one begrudges this. We do begrudge being "scalped" just as you do in your own personal business dealings.
I believe the answer to a lot of this is much better "policing" by the auto manufacturers of their dealerships practices and policies. Enforcement of the manufacturers sales practice guidelines (if they have bothered to formulate any)by pulling franchises from unscrupulous dealers could go a long way in cleaning up the reputation of the industry.
My 2 cents for what its worth.
Just wanted to say that I wish Bob and his dealership was here in WI rather than Ohio. In my short 15 minute conversation, Bob was very helpful to me, and shared with me things that other dealer 'friends' have not.
Moral of the story?...either move to Ohio, or search out dealers who are indeed honest or portray some of the values that are shared by Bob and the Tom Ahl dealership. Bob is an example that they DO indeed exist.
blackjacq-I not only bought one, but a month later was so happy with it I bought another. Both now have over 4,000 miles on them....not a single problem. I am very happy that I considered a Santa Fe after looking at other makes that cost so much more. Check the boards and you will see that a new Santa Fe seems to have far fewer problems than many of the others. No recalls, very few "minor" problems, no major problems and how can you beat the warranty? I don't have a single regret....I love my Santa Fes
They treat you right--even a full gas tank to start.
The Santa Fe will not lose its valur for trade-in. these vehicles are hard to find and hard to get. There is a BIG DEMAND for them. The value will be there when it's time for you to trade it.
If you think the Hyundai is the right choice though, give it to your wife on a "take it or leave it" basis!!
Hyundai equal in quality to the entry level/mid level Japanese cars but their resale will still suck because of people who doubt the marque. You do have the warranty to back you up.
I don't care, the stigma probably saved me $X000 bucks!
If you want to waste your money then buy the RAV4. You the man!!
While not SUV of the year material it costs half of what the one that is does and you get almost the same features.
I'm a motorcyle rider, have been for 36 years and the old Harley Davidson dig about trade in value being the best is a bit of a stretch. It's true that they do hold thier value but is that why you buy a bike or a car? I bought mine to drive. I also have owned Harleys and other brands, I ride them till they die or I find something I like more.
You want an image then buy the Lexus, Mercedes or why not go all the way and purchase the Land Rover? That will impress people big time.
Buy the Santa Fe if you want a good solid vehicle for a really decent price.
My bet is that when the time comes to trade in you are going to be surprised at how well the Santa Fe has held up.
But like anything else it also depends a lot on how well you maintain it. Take care of the car, it will take care of you.
Most importantly, buy what you want to buy, it's your choice and you are buying it for you. Not for anyone else correct?
I bought one for my wife and she loves the damn thing. Can't get her out of it to be honest.
Just my opinion and worth what I charge for it. :-)
Richard.
When I try to get another quick quote from HyundaiUSA website, it tell me my first quote must be processed before I can get another.
Thanks,
Jason Ford
2 week ago in my city street (not highway), there was an traffic accident involved a Rav4 & a old light truck (I am not certain what brand name from the newspaper pictures) hit each others. The RAV4 roll-overs so many times before stop & the lady in the Rav4 threw out from the car and killed instantly. The other old light truck driver is just slightly hurt. All local newspapers posted the totally ruined RAV4 pictures on the front page ---- WHAT A FREE ADVERTISING FOR TOYOTA! (BUT NEGATIVE!).
This is a true story happened in Vancouver, Canada. I think the RAV4's light-weight (I saw a lot of young kids they drive this car very fast on city road) is the mainly cause for such a tragic accident.(if Santa Fe I doubt this "tank" will even make one somersault!!!)
The RAV4 crash test overall report is just marginal & acceptable in the past model (not available for 2001)!
http://www.crashtest.com/toyota_truck/ie.htm
If you care about your wife, I suggest u don't buy RAV4. (RAV4 had the strong image "just for kids - kids toy")
U don't have to buy SF, If u are rich enough think about BMW or Benz or even Acura or highlander or .......
My SF dealer they sell both Toyota & Hyundai. Yesterday I went to check the SF assessories I saw a Toyota 'Highlander Limited' parking on the lot, style not very impressive to me (still boxy shape). Sticker price CDN$46K. I walked away instantly.
With this price, I think Acura MDX will love Toyata.
Just treat your SF like other expensive car - serviced only by the professional Hyundai's mechanics. Not by those cheap garage mechanics.
My GMC safari's van Brake had been re-pad by a cheap local garage. Suffering noises & vibration for more than a year, until I finally fixed it in GMC dealer. For the high quality car u better let the dealership to service whether to ruin your car in a cheap garage where they always use cheap parts.
Dealers make a good chunk of their profit on service. A good dealer will not run you over the coals. They want you to keep coming back.
Try an Eagle Vision Tsi with the big engine. Service is required every three months or 3,000 miles, which ever comes first. I've done that since 1994 and let me tell you it wasn;t cheap but I do have one very nice vehicle today. It might be old but it's in great shape.
I will do the same with the Santa Fe because after the Eagle anything has to be cheaper. Well I don't know about the Hummer H2 but I don't think I'd worry about it too much.
Just my two cents.
Richard
This message is for Bill Tung! I receive my body fender today but they are not fit correctly for my car and I have decided to order the matching body fender that goes with the clading. Please direct me to the site or phone where you bought they body fender similar to your car. Thank you.
Anyways, I wrote down a note for them, I want front & rear bush guard, rear spoiler, body fender, stepping bars. They promise will call me once arrive.
For me the step bar & the body fender is the most important things.
The built-in body fender in Mazada's Tribute contribute a lot in its good look.
If my SF with body fender then certainly will be the most beautiful SUV under CDN$30K.
hung0820! pls check
http://hdkautosport.com
I find the on-lines order price is very expensive. (Is USD & plus freight is almost double the price I brought here in canada. I rather wait a few month than paid more expensive.