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If true I would be very disappointed. He thought it was great telling me I could put my ipod or whatever in the glove box. What a joke.
I know it's silly, but the lack of a NAV is really bothering me--it's a goodie I wanted to splurge on, and I'm not interested in an aftermarket add-on with wires running all over the place. Hopefully Hyundai will see the light in the 6 months or so (that's when I want to buy!)
This press release says that Hyundai is offering the Garmin nüvi 360 via their dealers, but that was 4 months ago. Hyundai is offering "Smartnav" in Europe (think On-Star, but with a touchscreen option). link
If true I would be very disappointed. He thought it was great telling me I could put my ipod or whatever in the glove box. What a joke.
That's just plain silly. But given that the current Canadian Santa Fe doesn't come with anything better than a single CD player in the highest trim leve, I can't say that I'm surprised.
Actually, the Veracruz was at the Chicago show, but it was on a platform. While you could crawl in it at the Detroit show, no such luck at Chicago. I was able to get a salesman to show me a bit though as I stood on the elevated part behind, but nothing beats climbing in yourself.
GLS FWD $26,305
GLS AWD $28,005
premium package $1,950 includes: moonroof, power driver seat, heated front seats, leather wrapped wheel and shifter, backup warning system
SE FWD $28,005
SE AWD $29,705
premium and leather package $3,350 includes: moonroof, leather seating, heated front seats Infinity sound system w/cd changer and backup sensors
entertainment package $1,600 includes rear seat entertainment w 8" lcd screen, 115 volt power outlet and conversation mirror
Limited FWD $32,305
Limited AWD $34,005
ultimate package $2,950 includes: adjustable pedals, memory seating, power tilt and telescopic wheel, entertainment package, rain sensing wipers, proximity key with immobilizer and lighted door scuff plates.
Sorry guys, no nav system yet
I completely agree. Do I have to get a DVD system to get memory seats? That's a nonstarter for me.
Anyone else feel the same way?
While on the subject of the Highlander, I would rather get a RAV4 and bank the savings. The Tucson, Santa Fe, and Veracruz make sense as far as specs/price go, but I don't feel the same way between the RAV4 and the Highlander.
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CSMAB
I'm still seeing Hyundai as a low price value company of 5 years ago, but the Veracruz signals the company's new confidence and goal to reach Toyota status. They have a ways to go but they are on their way. Joe97 says "It is still comparable with Highlander, Pilot, and the rest of the class". I guess I wasn't looking for "comparable". I was hoping for closer to a $3 or 4K savings as opposed to $1 or 2K. The base entry level model price is pretty good, but I'm interested in the SE and Limited with options and the price goes up fast with the options.
One more question, Is it me or are most of the new mid-range cuv's higher in price overall? I had been comparing everything to the Pilot and Highlander, but current models are old and rumors are hinting that the new redesigned models will be higher $. Is this trend due to inflation or simply that cuv's are hot? both?
the base model highlander is less expensive, but it doesn't include 3rd row or a v-6 engine.
CUV's are hot now, but I think the higher prices have to do with all the new features that are being offered as standard now.
BTW, I saw the Veracruz at my local auto show (on a turntable, but the doors were open) and it looked very impressive--certainly the classiest-looking Hyundai yet IMO.
One thing I noticed on the Veracruz is that the rear cargo area is pretty small with the 3rd row up--smaller than I expected given the size of the Veracruz. It didn't seem much larger than the cargo area on the Santa Fe with the 3rd row up. Maybe Hyundai maximized the legroom for the 3rd row rather than the cargo space.
"These unibody midsizers are seemingly the neo-family-wagon, so this segment is generating lots of heat right now. The Veracruz is in the same sandbox as the Mazda CX-9, GM Lambda cousins, Toyota Highlander and the like, but Hyundai's press materials call out more expensive models like the Lexus RX and Mercedes GL. We know this move, as Hyundai pulls it time and time again. The Korean company packs a model with uplevel content and more standard safety and convenience features than its immediate competition can match. Thus, customers are more likely to compare it with more expensive models and marvel at its low, low price. Genius, just genius. We're eager to get one in the Autoblog Garage."
Good points about the new standard features. Also clever marketing helps to make higher $ medicine go down easy.
The Veracruz has about 3-5 cu. ft. more than the Santa Fe. Most of the extra length went into the 1st and 2nd row, which slides giving the 3rd row a bit more room. The Veracruz is longer and wider than the 2008 Highlander, but is 9" shorter than the CX-9 and Freestyle. It is 10-11" shorter than the Outlook/Acadia. The new Acura MDX is about the same size. Where the Veracruz will show the greatest prowess is in parking lots, parallel parking, etc.
The Acadia is the only vehicle, domestically, except for recent offerings of the Cadillac CTS, Chevrolet Avalanche and Chevy Tahoe, that I have every considered from a domestic automaker.
We can say what we want about the past, but in the here-and-now GM has brought it up from a 'C-' to their 'A' game. I haven't driven the Acadia, but walking around it and sitting in it in the showroom really altered my paradigm. I feel the same about the Saturn sedan, Silverado, Tahoe and Avalanche. GM is going to survive and thrive if they continue to offer vehicles like the Acadia/Outlook. I may buy a Silverado or an Avalanche. I priced the Silverados and they are serious value.
I still think that manufacturers are creeping up invoice prices. After all, everyone thinks that getting a car at invoice is a good deal, so it's to the manufacturer's advantage to creep it up.
Of course I have no proof of this, as I am far too lazy to do a comparison of invoice vs. MSRP prices throughout the years.
Cargo – Behind 3rd row seats
6.5 cubic feet
Sante Fe Cargo - Behind 3rd row seats -10 cubic ft.
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