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I was thinking about the same thing before I purchased this 2002 model. I was told the 2003 model will be out around Oct. However I will expect that the price will be much firmer than 2002 model. By the way, are you a pathologist?
Like Pathdoc said, supply has been cut below demand on them right now... (CAFE concerns)
Bill
I would ignore the LDA since there is also a $1900 dealer holdback on this. Are you in CA? I would very much like to know which dealer you get this, if you are.
This guy says Lexus is intending to go more and more upscale in the coming years but wants to maintain cars and trucks in their current price range at the same time. So you'll likely see v-12 engines and other expensive goodies in certain models and model extensions or new replacements in others. But they have no intention of outpricing current customers so hence an intro like the GX470 flows in.
yes, it was more than just ML system, i also got cargo mat, rear wind deflector, roof rack, spare tire lock and wheel locks.
all those were manutacturer intsalled, I had no choice but take them which i would like to have them anyway.
i am not at CA, i am at WA, i can give you the dealer's name if you want.
pathdoc
are you going to wait for the 2003 model?
For those looking to buy, carsdirect.com will give a good idea of what LXs are going for in your area. I got my 2001 lasdt year for $10,000 off of MSRP ($65K) so this was about $2000 below invoice. The broker prices are about $7500 higher now but the $3000 navigation system is standard for 2002 so, effectively, Lexus lowered the MSRP by $3000 for 2002.
Does anybody know how a negative comment about a dealer in a survey from Lexus affects the dealer?
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Are 18 inch wheels a good thing in the new LX? It seems like Toyota is keeping up with the Jones' when BMW has SUVs with optional 20 inchers ("not recommended for off-road use"). I'm going to Western Canada and Alaska soon with a friend's spare tire and two unmounted tires just in case of flats on the gravel highways. Finding 18 inch tires in the boonies might be tough. I'd be surprised if Toyota went worldwide with 18 inch wheels on their SUVs so I'm thinking this is a styling over functionality issue.
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It's remote, but don't go nuts. You won't get stuck in any one place all that long. I don't recommend bombs of gas on the roof either. Grab a Milepost too (http://themilepost.com). Great country, you'll love it.
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3 major things I like on the new LX, side airebag/curtain airbag, voice activation on GPS and 18 inch wheel. The 16 intch wheel is too small.
I expect price won't increase more than a couple of hundred dollars. So I will either get a new one or get a 2002 around Oct for $2000 below invoice.
Good Luck and let us know what you decide.
At the same time it wouldn't make sense to kill a lengedary brand name like the TLC. So I would think it'll become a different type of truck, maintain it's high-end quality and be priced in the $40-45k range at some point in the near future.
Yes - I also agree this is a great truck and I also love it. I get around 16-17mpg which I am actually pleasantly surprised about but it'd be nice to get 20.
Maybe Toyota's VVTi technology will yield different power levels in their current and future (5.4L) V8's. Obviously to swing with the Range Rovers, Escalades, and Navigators, you need 300+HP. The RX needs 240-250HP to stay competitive, and the GX should be inbetween. The GX needs to get to 275HP at $50k a pop. The future LX470 must have 290-300+HP. It won't be as dedicated off-road, but that's ok with me. More legroom is more important.
Bill
Bill
Thank-you.
Please advice.
Thanks to everyone in advance,
Irina.
expensive(aprox$2500).
HP has not be changed.
http://www.toyota.co.jp/Showroom/All_toyota_lineup/LandCruiserCygnus/index.html
Is this a good deal? What about LDA $775? Is this legit? I can't imagine dealer paying this much for advertisement.
List was $65K, invoice was $57K and I paid $55K, which was pretty much the broker price found on carsdirect.com.
The LDA quoted to me at the first dealership was about $600 (this is in northern CA). This is a real expense in that the dealership would not have to pay it if they didn't sell the vehicle (unlike their rent or electricity bill which is covered by their markup). But also not factored in was the holdback payment the dealership would get from Lexus. Some people figure the LDA when they want to make a "fair" offer to the dealership but I was going to pay less than invoice anyway. I don't think the second dealership could survive if their average profit is what they made off of me but I was willing to take what they had. I didn't pay no LDA (or get chrome wheels for $1600 extra).
Lexus/Toyota must have had a huge dealer rebate program at the time to unload the remaining 2001's - maybe the knowledge that navigation would be free in 2002 was a part of the reason.
Prices might be a lot lower next month but there's not much you can do to lower the price on the best offer you get in your area.
Do you remember the exact date when you bought you 2001 LX relative to the new 2002 model release date, ie, two or three weeks before or after? How did you find that deal, newspaper ads, web? Did you lease or buy if you don't mind I ask? Any detail will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
KC
Carsdirect is great because it gives you a great idea of what offers a dealer would accept in your area. Some cars are listed at $10K over list price and some are listed at $10K under. I didn't tell the dealer about Carsdirect because they probably have a deal where they don't compete with each other. From stepping foot onto the dealership to making the deal with the manager took about ten minutes so they might have accepted a lower offer. I wrote a check.
You can also see some 2002 photos and compare. The new interior looks nicer, but it seems they dropped the optitron gauges for the more conventional style - just like those that will be in the GX. Although, I may be wrong as it is hard to tell in the images.
Thanks
Does the 2003 LX have HID lights? and,
Does the truck come with parking assist that beeps when you are too close to hitting something? (the LS 430 has both).
Thanks to any knowledgeable Lexus folks out there for the answer.
There was a deal before where the tow receivers that came from some dealerships were rated at only 5000 lbs. but my 2001 can handle 6500 lbs., I think.
MSRP $63,700
Invoice $56,282
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Powertrain
Engine: 4.7L V8 DOHC SMPI
8-cylinder engine with 4.7-liter displacement, dual overhead cam valvetrain, sequential multi-port injection STD
Transmission: Electronic 5-Speed Automatic w/Overdrive STD
Wheels and Tires
Tires: P275/70HR16 Mud & Snow BSW
Heavy Duty tires with 275mm width, 16.0" rim STD
Wheels: 16 in. x 8.0 in. Alloy STD
Seats and Seat Trim
Heated Front Bucket Seats STD
Leather Seat Trim STD
Audio
Radio: AM/FM 6-Disc In-Dash CD Changer & Cassette STD
Mark Levinson Audio System $1,280
Other Options
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating: 6,860 lbs STD
4.30 Axle Ratio STD
Monotone Paint Application w/Painted Lower Accents STD
Night View $2,200
Lexus Link $1,215
Rear Spoiler $280
Roof Rack w/Cross Bars $220
Destination Charge
Manufacturer's Destination Charge $575
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