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Also, I am ticked because GM would only allow me to use $1k rebate from my GM card eventhough I have $3500 on it.
So, I ended up with an equally equipped Pacifica. Not my first choice, but I drove off the lot for $12k less then the Arcadia I wanted. Looks like I am getting the Harley too - LOL
And even weirder is the "Build your GMC" portion of the GMC website. When you get to the choose color screen, the base price changes from $31,990 to $32,500 (with the default Summit White color). If you choose a different color, then go back to Summit White, the price changes to $32,500.
Anyone have any idea what's going on? Am I wrong that the VIN numbers are sequential, and that higher numbers are built after the lower ones, so maybe there was a price increase? :confuse:
Sometimes you have to just dive-in, buy the thing, and not look back - lol
No one ever gets a good deal on buying a new car. Anyone who says they did, is just in denial. It's all about damage control and minimizing the losses - lol
I still don't know why there are different prices on the window stickers, but at least it's a start.
So I am more of a Saturn Outlook fan and was looking for the "Prices Paid..." in the Saturn section but found none. I recently purchased an Outlook and just wanted to share my experience with you Acadia fans.
Mod, could you please creat a "Saturn Outlook Prices paid...." discussion, please?
December 29, 2007 I drove to Los Angeles to make a deal on my Outlook. Was able to negotiate invoice pricing.
Purchased a 2008 Saturn Outlook XR
Silver exterior with Ebony interior
8-passenger / cloth seats.
Options:
Trailering pkg
Navigation with ‘backup camera’
Convenience Pkg (Remote start and
Power lift gate)
Price: MSRP Invoice
30,190 28,530
Opt Equip
UZR TouchScreen 2,340 2,176
Navigation
PCU (with UZR) 685 637
PDC Conv Pkg 870 809
V92 Trailering Pkg 425 395
Destination Charge 735 735
Total with Options 35,245 33,282
I offered 33,200 before the $500 Discount.
Price paid: $32,700.00 before taxes.
They wanted to add $695 for ‘paint protection’, $195 for ‘pin stipes’ and $350 for “marketing fee’. I said no to all these.
Saturn of Torrance was great.
Hey.. we have one of those!
Saturn Outlook Prices Paid and Buying Experience
regards,
kyfdx
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One of the cars on my list was a Dodge Charger, and that's what I wound up with. So far, I'm very happy with it, and got it for about 5K+ less than any AWD Acadia or Outlook I could get. The hemi is a a lot of fun too. Maybe an Acadia next time!
kyfdx -
"Saturn Oulook: Prices paid and...."
thanks for the heads up. But, it would be great if it actually showed up under the "Saturn Outlook" section. This way, we wouldn't have to go searching for it.
Any ways, I am enjoying my new '08 Silver Outlook XR and just want to inform everyone you CAN get a deal on them also.
I am ready to commit to an Acadia, in Northern NJ. It is an FWD - SLT basic model. The only add-on is a DVD player.
MSRP of 33160
My price is about 32600
$2500 down - total (includes tax, title, destination, etc.)
400 month
39months
10K miles
Is this a good deal???
Leased an Acadia SLT-2 AWD in Summit White.
39 month 12K miles per year
7.25 GMAC lease rate (new today Jan. 8)
62% Residual Value
MSRP: 40660
Invoice: 37562
Conquest Rebate: - $500
Dowpayment on Order: - $200
$595 lease aquisition fee (GMAC)
$150 Doc. fee
$120 (tax, title, license blah, blah, blah)
$525 Lease protection plan (protects up to $2000 worth of damage)
Payment is $568 per month with nothing down except first payment.
Interesting -- this is the exact same monthly payment I had on a 36 month lease on a 2002 Yukon which I leased 6 years ago in 2002 for around $33000.
2008 Acadia SLT 2 Silver Metallic color
DVD, navigation, back-up camera, Bose, moonroof and extended skylight, leather, windshield display, heated washer fluid, pinstripe, Zilon paint program, door edge guards, pretty much everything you can get except the 19 inch wheels and towing package....
We put $3,000 cash down and purchased an additional 2 year warranty (5 years, 100,000 miles total) for $2,200...had a trade in that we owed $12,500 on and they gave us $11,000 for it which was blue book value, we had checked prior.....
Purchase price of car $41,963, MSRP was $42,774...$599 dealer cost
Financing at 6.75%, 84 months, $670 a month
We actually walked out because we wanted $650 a month and came back after eating lunch....seems like we did pretty good, but not positive..any thoughts? Thanks!
Plus, I can't believe people pay anything near MSRP for a GM. Or any car.
Also why retroactively validate a deal? Did I get a good deal? You can't undo it if you've signed and more than a certain number of days have passed? If you have to ask you haven't.
Always better to walk away and shop around. Car dealers aren't exactly wallowing in customers nowdays no matter what they say.
So, either go forward, or undue the deal and start over. I am of the opinion that no one ever really gets a "good" deal especially where a trade is involved anymore....someone is always making money on your back.
When I started taking over the car buying/leasing/selling/trading about 6 years ago due to my husband's complete lack of patience or interest in the process, I learned tons of things about the whole process from this great website as well as others. Do board searches on info you are interested in and also google searches -- it's amazing how much information is available for car buyers these days. I told my husband that I don't know how people ever bought cars before the info was available on the internet.
Anyway, without completely researching your deal, I can offer these tips.
1) Find the Invoice price and True Market Value Price of the car on Edmunds -- this is easy to find if you click on the New Cars tab on the front page of Edmunds. Then read the message board to see what others are paying. Negotiate from the Invoice price -- not the MSRP.
2) If you need to finance your car over such a long period such as 84 months, you need to ask yourself a tough question -- can you really afford the car?
3) Find the Trade-in value of the car you are getting rid of so that you know if what the dealer is offering for your trade-in is fair.
4) Do not purchase pinstripes, paint protectants, fabric protectant and all the other add-ons. This is all pure profit for the dealer and little benefit to you.
That's all I can think of right now before my first cup of coffee -- anyone else want to jump in with advice?
Enjoy your car and good luck with the baby that you and your wife are expecting!
I have an actual invoice on a 2008 SLT-2 AWD with an MSRP of 41470.00 It has sunroof, 19" ultra bright wheels, head-up display, trailering pkg.
Invoice is 38907.23 including 407.35 in co-op advertising.
Hold back is 1222.05 which the dealer gets even if you purchase at invoice.
The invoice is dated 10/07 so prices may be higher now.
I work at a new car dealership, but it is not a GM dealer.
Zylon? costs us 75.00 plus the labor to apply. Fabric protector is probably the same cost.
Interest rates are about 5.5% for 60 months with good credit. This does not include the special rates given by the different manufacturers.
I am a car nut and purchase at least one new vehicle a year. I know that each time I buy, the dealer makes money. My only defense is to arm myself with as much info as possible
On another post I will give details on my quest for an Enclave or Acadia.
SLT2
DVD system
Sunroof
Towing package
2nd row bench
MSRP $41,540
Invoice $38,623
Selling price $37,672 +tax, title and $150 document fee....
Incetives were $500 and conquest $500 (non gm trade)
What do u guys think???
Wade
SLT-2 AWD White Diamond Tricoat, Ebony Interior (2,2,3 seating)
Audio System with Navigation, Audio Controls in rear
Trailering Package
Rear Entertainment
HUD
Sunroof
HID
MSRP: 46,170
Our price: $43,074 ($200 over invoice, includes $908.70 advertising charge and $735 destination charge and subtracts $500 for Conquest Cash)
Still can't decide if it is worth the $5-8k or so more than just going with a minivan, but it really seems like a nice car. Just wish there would be some discounts for President's Weekend. Thanks for your thoughts.
Kim
SLT-1 Silver Metallic, Ebony Leather Interior, 8 Passenger
Convenience Package
Rear Entertainment
MSRP: $35,690
Selling Price: $ 32,080 (with $1000 Rebates)
$1000 Rebates: $500 Auto Show & $500 Conquest Cash
My $2000 Certificate applied as Cap Costs Reduction
Lease @ 39 months, 12 k for $445.67 a month. Absolutely ZERO out of our pocket. We will take care of our existing old lease on our own which we have 3 payments left. The 2k GM Coupon made this DEAL for us!
There were no advertising fees from this dealer which saved us more.
Apparently GM knew we had a lease that was ready to end and they mailed it as an incentive to get into one of their cars. It sure worked! We used it to cover cap costs rather than them handing us a check to pay off our Volvo Lease. Did not want payments added into Acadia. We timed it just right as if we paid one more lease pmt on Volvo we would not have gotten the full $2000. So if you currently have a Lease that is how you receive this certificate. We are sooo pleased to be into Acadia and out of the Volvo Xc-90! Do your homework and get quotes from alot of dealers like we did. We knew it was a good deal where we purchased from. We had this offer on the table Saturday and decided to stop 1 more dealer before we traveled the hour to get it. We told them our deal and they practically laughed at us and said "Good Luck". We tried to see if we could get lower payment on their SLE White Diamond which was 2k less than the SLT-1 we bought! They gave us a $475 payment. We walked! The sales manager called my house this morning saying they want to earn our business. Too late! Can't wait to pull into their dealership with our new SLT-1 that they thought we would not get!
thanks,
M
--jjf
How much off invoice before rebates can one reasonably expect to achieve?
thanks,
M
so we're looking for dealer recommendations in North Jersey...we're in Maplewood but we're willing to drive to get a good deal.
we want SLE basic with RES package for 36 months/12000miles, zero down bar incentives
are we crazy thinking we can get this below $430??
also is it common for salesman to just NOT give u the residual or money factor..we kept getting 'its approx..etc etc'
2008 Acadia FWD SLT-1
White Diamond Tricoat
Ebony leather (captain chairs)
Dual skyscape sunroof
Power liftgate
Convenience pkg. (ultrasonic parking, remote start)
Cargo pkg.
Trailer pkg.
Total: $35,909.03 with the Supplier's Discount and $1,500 in rebates ($500 rebate and $1k Conquest).
I'm not sure that I got the best deal but I researched it alot and this is the lowest I could get. They are not moving alot on the prices, at least down here in the South!
Salesman insisted it was below invoice but I don't buy it--he even went as far to say that Supplier's Discount was below invoice...which is a lie). They have to make $$$ too, as long as they don't screw you in the process. I feel like it was pretty fair deal.
Location - NC
2008 SLT-1 FWD
TOTAL VEHICLE PRICE: 39805 (INCLUDES 735 DEST CHG)
CARBON BLACK METALLIC / EBONY LEATHER INTERIOR
CONVENIENCE PKG (REMOTE START/REAR PARKING ASSIST)
DUAL SKYSCAPE SUNROOF
CARGO AREA AUDIO CONTROLS
POWER LIFTGATE
115V POWER OUTLET
DVD IN BOTH HEADRESTS
PURCHASE PRICE 34,867 before tax etc..
MSRP = $47,015
Sold = $42,000
* SLT-2 - AWD
* 19" Ultra Brights Wheels
* HUD
* HID
* Dual Sunroof
* Trailer/Tow Package
* Navigation System
* Entertainment System - DVD
* White Diamond Tri-Coat
Liquid Silver Metallic
C3U-Sunroof
E61-Liftgate-rear power
PDD- Convenience Package
U42-DVD
V92-Trailing Provisions
MSRP-$38,830
Invoice-$35,955
Negotiated price-$36,545 less $1,500 rebates
$35,045 plus tax and license
"Below invoice" does not mean below their real net cost. The so-called invoice that these dealers use (and you can look up on Edmunds) is filled with hidden profits for them. So oftentimes, you can buy good cars for $300-500 below invoice. Slower sellers go for $1000-1500 below invoice. End of Year leftovers can go even lower than that. Of course, there is a lot of variation according to car type and date of transaction, but those are general rules of thumb to consider.
You should also keep in mind that Edmunds TMV pricing looks "tough", but car dealers would be in heaven if they could do deals at the TMV price all day long. (Note all the automobile advertisements on this website...strange the car companies are not angry with Edmunds for this "aggressive" TMV pricing...hmmmm )