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inch tires ? Or That truck was used
for SNOW PLOWING TOO ! I can see why
all the rust!
How come nobody makes a snow plow for
a tundra?...........Geo
SORRY PF !
And they're not the only company who makes a plow for the Tundra. Here's a suggestion: Do a little research before before you post, it goes a long ways for your credibility.
Just how does snow plowing make a truck rust more than one that's driven in the snow just as much?
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Myers, Diamond, fisher, Western, Boss
Not the housey kind that they sell at
Home Depot !
Stop over to www.plowsite.com
Tom
We were in fierce negotiations over several days in person, on the phone, and via email. We dealt exclusively with the Fleet/Internet departments in each case. They beat all other dealers (about 6) by at least $1000. They also gave us about a 5-day timeframe during which they would still honor all deals.
Read the fine print from that link. There's hardware available for front-mount snow plows for the Toyota Tundra.
Can I ask you guys a personal question? What is the PROBLEM with you GMC people??? Do you see the Ford and Dodge truck guys harassing everybody all the time? What are you so insecure about, and what are you trying to prove?
But not for a Tundra ! Weird huh ?
Most truck mfrs. will not warranty
most plow trucks ..Unless they come
with a faCTORY plow prep. pkg !
Heck have been plowing for years !
even with my s-10s........geo
Houdini:funny a non tundra owner would
post here huh?
Tom, I grew up in the North - all the salt spreading takes place BEHIND the vehicle. The truck spreading the salt shouldn't get any more or less on it than any other vehicle on the road. Or do they have salt spreaders in the FRONT now to match the plows in the BACK?
Jeff
Tom
Here in upstate NY 99%
of the 2500 4x4s have snow plow
prep option on them !
Remember on GMs plow prep
is available on most of them.
Ford and mopar 3/4s too .
Not available on any toyota truck !
Do you realize how much of the "spray" from plowing gets on the plow vehicle?
Tom
prep. pkg is also available on
1/2 ton regular cab full size GM trucks.
Sorry to confuse anyone.
Check out www.gmbuypower.com
option code VYU
I can understand deleting a few posts or even a standing-8 count for those individuals that can't take a hint and who constantly rant off topic. But you shouldn't toss the whole board for a few people's transgressions. Gonna miss all the FUN at the GM Knock Site.
Edmunds prides itself on its reviews like many others. But they won't do the "heavy lifting" either. That's always left to the little guy in this Country. I thought I might apologize for my part. But then I thought...hmmmm, I already have. Go read, "Fahrenheit 451".
Good luck on this one now.
Tom
Now Chevy has jumped on the bandwagon with their Isuzu engine and Allison transmission combo. Surprise, now the Allison transmission is giving their owners headaches. There's quite a few posters right here who can attest to that. In my mind and in most others as well, if you need a serious work truck with a diesel, Chevy still isn't a proven contender. Again, enter Ford PSD.
If that weren't bad enough, and you were in the market for a non-diesel truck, Chevy still can't get it right. Their gassers are so problematic with their knocking engines, bad transmissions, shaking tendencies, flimsy interiors, etc who would want one?
If GMC was half as great as some of the folks here say they are (sonjaab), would you have to insist it upon the rest of us? Or wouldn't the trucks just speak for themselves? That's exactly why you don't see the Ford guys in here, they've got great trucks (particularly the PSDs), everybody knows it, and the trucks speak for themselves. Instead of force-feeding us with your pro GMC nonsense, why don't you let the product speak for itself?
I'll always step up to the plate and defend Toyota. They make great cars and trucks, and that includes the Tundra. If they didn't, their Corolla wouldn't be the most popular car in the world, and the Camry and Lexus line wouldn't be the most successful cars in America. Hold your horses and quit comparing Tundras to 3/4 ton trucks. That's asinine and we all know it. I've no doubt Toyota has the know-how to build a big truck, all they have to do is develop it if it's feasible/profitable for them. And they won't have to go very far to make something better than these knocking pushrod V8, cheap interior, shaking GMCs.
kip
The Duramax & Allison are too new?
The Allison 1000 series transmission is new to the light duty trucks only, as it has been in production for many years. Also, Isuzu is one of the largest producers of desiel engines.
As for anyone knocking GM for farming the parts out, welcome to diversification. GM is part owners in both of those companies.
http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/news5.htm
The Duramax 6600 is indeed a new engine (but made by an experienced diesel manufacturer) and has a ways to go before it can be considered as "proven" as Ford's PSD, IMHO. As for the Allison 1000 - if you read the threads pertaining to this transmission, you'll find it has been tweaked in its GMC truck application, but I don't recall the details off the top of my head.
So what you have is a new engine which has never been mated before to the Allison 1000, which has been reworked, all in a GMC truck with far less time under its belt than the competition. I wouldn't call that a "proven" combo by any stretch of the imagination.
The real joke is the argument put up that ice melts today are noncorrosive, or that salt is not used. The liquid ice-melt referred to, is MAGNESIUM CHLORIDE, which is similarly corrosive to salt, because guess what's mixed with it? (Sodium Chloride!)
But that misses the point. Not even Houdini can escape the trap he set for himself by picturing a 30 year old truck, then arguing it wasn't corroded by road salt because of so called noncorrosive liquid ice melts that have only been in widespread use the last 5 years, and don't work for all temperatures, and IS mixed with regular road salt anyway when applied. LMAO!!! If you asked most Tundra owners where babies come from, most could answer, but do they know where road salt comes from? When you pick up a load of it, the truck is literally immersed in it, on the wet ground, spilling from the hopper or load bucket, and turning into a liquid saline solution as the precipitation it's made to combat settles over the load.
But that misses the point. The 30 yr old truck pictured didn't corrode from plowing. It corroded from the surf, salt spray from the sea. A Toyota from the same decade would be part of the reef, and a worthy home for aquatic life! And that is a Toyota problem!
The GM haters have always been desperate, and now plenty envious too, of the soon to be copied, heavy duty 5 speed automatic, and the soon to be copied Duramax diesel, that has driven the present PSD into certain obsolescence, to be replaced by a more fuel efficient design of smaller displacement, and cause for Daimler Chrysler to seek modifications to the Cummins diesel to employ common rail fuel injection like the Duramax, while offering a Mercedes alternative.
Keep trying I guess, but it's your own inability to come to grips with the fact that the Lemonundra is on the Center for Auto Safety list of the 25 worst vehicles for customer complaints, that has you bashing GM in your own topic. I take it as a compliment that you seem helpless to avoid talking about GM trucks, taking your futile banter wherever you hope someone will listen.
Good luck on this one now!
http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html
1-800-LEMONLAW
And magnesium chloride, which is mostly used here in the Pacific Northwest, is NOT as corrosive as the sodium chloride typically used in the east. Why do you think the "rust belt" is in the east?
http://www.city.kamloops.bc.ca/utilities/pollution/PS2000Dec.html
"Not even Houdini can escape the trap he set for himself by picturing a 30 year old truck, then arguing it wasn't corroded by road salt because of so called noncorrosive liquid ice melts that have only been in widespread use the last 5 years, and don't work for all temperatures, and IS mixed with regular road salt anyway when applied..."
I said no such thing. I simply posted irrefutable proof that sonjaab's claims of GMCs being rust-free is nonsense, as is your interpretation of my postings.
So the Duramax is going to drive Ford's PSD into obsolescence, huh? You must be related to Cleo, being able to see the future and all. With a more efficient design of smaller displacement, no less. Hmmm, kind of like Toyota's trend of smaller, more efficient designs?
wasting your time !
Houdini: I never said GMs were rust
proof ! Just try and find ANY 70s
(or even early 80s too)
vintage Toyotas here in the rust belt NY !
ALSO as I said before NO major plow
company makes a real plow for tundra !
But Western DOES make one for the tacoma,
ranger, s-10, dakota and a few more.
Strange huh? The taco,s10 etc.
MUST be tougher
than that full size tundra !
Tundra problems:
check out www.tundrasolutions.com
GOOD LUCK ONE THIS ONE NOW !!!!!!!
Do you think that the last two posts from Quad and Sonja really add anything to this topic? Quad and his cohorts have posted the same link saying that the Tundra is a lemon at least five times in the last few days. Does this really help?
We all are unfortunate enough (according to Quad and Sonja) to have bought Tundras. Can we please have this topic shut down to avoid all of the mindless babble of unfortunate GM owners?
Sonja has posted links to Tundrasolutions website at least 10 times claiming that it makes her GM truck look better. While I will agree with her that Tundrasolutions is a great website, isn't the purpose of this website for owners of Tundras to post problems?
At the very least - could we get the name of the topic changed to "Quad and Sonja's playground". That will avoid any confusion from Tundra owners expecting to see any useful information.
This nonsense of trying to prove that one brand is better than the other by taking shots at each other is WAY past old and needs to stop.
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I rest my case.
I say this because I know several newer GM owners and quite a few of them didn't even know their trucks knocked lol. Once they figured it out, they decided to check into it, not sure if they made any formal complaints. I don't want to defend the Tundra complaints nor do I want to dismiss them. I'll have to do some more checking into them and see what kind of quality we're talking. I do believe however, that demographics may play a role in complaints received as well as the makeup of the typical brand consumer ... i.e. Ford, Chrysler, Etc.
There's plenty of us who will argue one point over another till we're bluein the face, that's what these forums are for, constructive postings. We have the freedom to share our life experiences and have the opportunity to learn from others. Nothing wrong with a good debate now and then right. It's just up to us to keep our heads about us and not resort to the personal attacks as our host constantly points out.
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"And the hypocrite's hope shall perish."
Job viii.13
Why is it that the one asking P.F. Flyer to shut down this topic(#1135) because it's off topic is the biggest troll in the gm topics,typically posting about things he has demonstrated he does'nt understand?
More importantly;why does OUR HOST allow this troll, who hasn't posted much helpfull advice IN HIS OWN TOPICS,free reign of this board?Why does OUR GRACIOUS HOST then rush to his defense when he complains?
Kip Lambel (kg11)
Quad - 20
Truthteller(sic)- 3
Sonja - 20
KG11 - 7
Oby - 6
Tom - 7
63 posts in the last 13 days. And you are whining? You need to take the GM blinders off!!
My question concerning the "Lemon List" is why is it that the Tundra is the only Toyota product on it? Newer platform? Maybe, but there are some other new Toyota platforms out there that don't appear on it. The newer GM trucks appeared about the same time as the Tundra/Sequoia trucks and SUVs and there are no Silverados or Tahoes etc on it. Hmmm...
Who cares if he's informed and don't make personal attacks?Who cares if he's good natured and gets along with everyone? He don't own a Tundra so he don't belong here.
kip
Yet another reliablility/customer satisfaction survey notes the Tundra as taking top honors:
http://www.vision-inc.com/01_tqa_release.html
NOTE: No GMC products anywhere on that list.
http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html
As much as you hate to admit it - doesn't this say that the Tundra is a better truck? I am amazed that you are finally admitting this!
"Correct me if I am wrong - your lemonado did not even make the list!!!
http://www.lemonlaw.com/lemonlist.html
As much as you hate to admit it - doesn't this say that the Tundra is a better truck? I am amazed that you are finally admitting this!
Simply astounding. Bama thinks it is some kind of honor for a vehicle to make the Lemon List. I'm actually speechless for once.
The original list had the F150 at the top. I think that the GM zealots conveniently chopped off that top of the list. Since the Lemonado was not at the top of the list (which was conveniently chopped off) or the bottom of the list - Where does that leave the LEMONADO?
This is a trick question for GM zealots.
And to answer your question "Since the Lemonado was not at the top of the list (which was conveniently chopped off) or the bottom of the list - Where does that leave the LEMONADO?"
It leaves it...(drumroll!!!)...not on the lemon list! If you think some vehicles have been chopped off(?) then email those lawyers that posted the list instead of whining to me. Dang-all this talk of lemons is making me thirsty.