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I have a 2001 3/4 ton Yukon XL built in Salao Mexico. I love the vehicle but don't like the way GM charges the same money for it considering the labor cost is 1/4 that of the US assembled ones.
Now to the vehicle itself is great, no problems with it so far. The fit and finish is excellent, no squeaks or rattles. All the body lines are perfect, no air whistles or water leaks, sunroof runs smooth and seals up tight. Everything is extremely solid. Not one single complaint on the workmanship of it. It only took them 3 days to build it too, started on a Monday and shipped out by train on Friday. It was a long wait for the 3/4 ton though, 4 months one week before GM took the order and assigned it to a plant to be built, 4 days to build, and 2 weeks and one day to get it shipped to the dealer in MI.
I also wanted a product built in the US, but GM send out the work to the plants as it sees fit. Ecs4tru, do you work for GM? I do and still am wondering if that is why mine was sent to Mexico to be built. I imagine that even with the discount GM still made more money off of that truck than one built in the states.
As far as overheating my truck has always run at the 195 degrees temp and has not gone above it. Were you towing in a hot area at the time? Also the 8.1 Liter was supposed to have several enhancements to the cooling ability of the engine over the 454. My guess is that you have a defect of some kind.
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does not seem to matter what I am listening to CD/ or radio volume is very low.
Looks like a waste of money so far. Any body else have any experiences?
Bob
S. Fl
I am looking to get a C1500 2WD 5.3L Engine. The only options I am looking to get is the LS Preferred Equipment Group ($6,384 invoice, $7,423 MSRP), and the Cloth High Back Reclining Bucket Seats. I was wondering if anyone knows what the GMS price that is listed on the invoice for a Suburban is. GM won't tell me. Thanks!
You can also use you GMS Supplier pricing for a substantial discount on an extended warranty. I used both GMS Supplier pricing for a 2001 DXL and for a 75K, 7 year, $100 ded. extended warranty. You'll need to call GM with your employer's name to receive the GMS Supplier form that will be used in closing the transaction with the dealer. (My dealer was the Flemington, NJ GMC dealership.)
Not all dealers will honor GMS Employee discounts and even less honor the Supplier discount. Even though the employee discount price is lower than the supplier price by 4%, dealers find the Supplier price less desirable because the employee discount is subsidized by GM whereas the Supplier price is simply selling the car at invoice with their hold-back as the only profit.
Both are great for the buyer with the employee discount being particulalrly attractive.
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Several pages of the 2000 Service Manual ($125.00) have been compared to the online data.
They appear to be exactly the same..
Thanks for the info. I already have my form, and I do know that it is a voluntary program. I will be shopping around to see who participates.
Just so I understand you, the GMS Supplier discount would be at just about invoice, and the employee discount would be 4% less than invoice?
I have an '01 Suburban, 2500 LT, 4WD, autoride,etc on order (TPW 3/26), which is to be purchased at GMS+4%. I already have the Dealer printout with a column of GMS+4 and a column of MSRP. This was provided to me before I agreed to let them order it (I have received the GMS Form and the $1000.00 rebate form good from 3/1 to 6/30/01).
Your dealer knows the price, but you must convince him that you WILL have the info or another dealer will give it to you.
I have 20 dealers within 30 miles of me so the competition around here is good and they know that this is a buyers market.
BTW, don't be surprised if at first the dealership declines to honor the GMS price (this will occur after your salesman leaves you waiting at his desk while he goes to speak to his manager, they'll leave you cooling your heels for awhile, then the manager will likely come back and tell you that unfortunately they can't honor the GMS). Just let them know you have another dealer further away that has agreed to GMS pricing and that you are looking to purchase from that dealership because of their proximity to work or home.
I posted a while back about the gas gauge reading empty and low fuel light coming on prematurely, and I said I'd post a message after the dealer had checked it out. Well, they checked the sending units and say everything is working fine. We drove for at least 40 miles after the light came on and even cramming as much gas as would go in, my wife couldn't put in more than 33 gallons. it doesn't make sense to me that they would design the warning system to activate so ridiculously early. Has anyone else had similar problems with their gas gauge/warning light?
We also had to have the radiator replaced yesterday, with only 3600 miles on the clock. The low coolant light came on Saturday but there was no signs of a leak, even on Sunday, but by
the time my wife got to the dealer on Monday it was leaking enough to leave a large puddle. Just lucky we weren't on a long trip! They didn't say what failed, just that they had to replace the radiator. Any one else have the same experience?
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GMS is the price that a vehicle costs for a GM employee pays for a GM vehicle. It is an actual number that is printed on the invoice from the manufacturer.
The supplier discount is for employees of companies that are considered "suppliers" of GM. I work for a company that provides software to GM dealerships, and we are an official supplier for GM. It is set up through GM and there is a form involved that the dealership fills out and submits to GM after I buy the car.
I have contacted a dealer in my area last night, and they are a participating member of the GM supplier discount. The GMS price is right about invoice, so I will pay 4% over that without any haggles. This will put me right at the Edmunds TMV price for the Suburban I want. My philosophy has been if I can get withing +- $200 of the Edmunds TMV price without haggling, then the discount will be worth it. Now, if there is a rebate on Suburbans after April 3rd, then I will be real happy.
Other railroads have similar tracing services. I was able to track the delivery of similarly VIN'd trucks, but never found mine till it was ready for delivery.
GMS is General Motors Employee from Stock
GMO is General Motors Employee from Order
"GM Supplier + 4%" program is the price that a GM employee gets plus 4%. You are correct that the price is printed on the factory invoice shipped with the vehicle. They use that and add 4%. They will attempt to add the area advertisement price, etc.
Dave
does not seem to matter what I am listening to CD/ or radio volume is very low.
Looks like a waste of money so far. Any body else have any experiences?
Bob
S. Fl
All GM dealerships have an employee price (otherwise known as GMS Employee Price) for all GM vehicles except the Corvette. The price is in the dealership computer updated from GM. It is approximately (but varies somewhat by vehicle) equal to the Manufacturer's factory invoice MINUS 4.0%.
All GM dealerships also have the right to honor(but not the obligation) discounted pricing for qualified employees of companies that supply products and services to GM (this pricing is called GMO Supplier Pricing). The GMO Supplier price is equal to the Employee discounted price plus 4.0%.
The GMO supplier price for the Denali XL I purchased was approximately $200 LESS than the factory invoice.
Under both discount programs the dealer cannot charge advertising or other extraneous expenses. In the end you should pay only the final GMO Supplier or GMS Employee price plus destination, tax and title....NOTHING ELSE.
Has anyone else had a different experience?
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Yes, that is how I understand it too. I have found a participating dealership in my area. The sales manager told me for a Suburban, my price would be 4% over invoice. If anyone has bought a Suburban using this method, please let me know what kind of deal you got. Thanks.
heatwave -
Yes, that is how I understand it too. I have found a participating dealership in my area. The sales manager told me for a Suburban, my price would be 4% over invoice. If anyone has bought a Suburban using this method, please let me know what kind of deal you got. Thanks."
That is NOT my deal. I am getting under "dealer invoice" as shown on Edmunds, Kelly BB, etc. I am not paying 4% OVER INVOICE. My '01 2500 Sub will be here in two weeks so I'll see what is on the shipping invoice and compare to the numbers that I have already been given. Will let you know...(I have a printout from the dealer showing a column of GMO and a column of MSRP, the GMO price is less than Dealer Invoice. I will post the deal when I get the final numbers).
heatwave3:
I think that you have this correct:
"All GM dealerships also have the right to honor(but not the obligation) discounted pricing for qualified employees of companies that supply products and services to GM (this pricing is called GMO Supplier Pricing). The GMO Supplier price is equal to the Employee discounted price plus 4.0%. "
I just took delivery on my 2001 3/4 ton Suburban last Friday. The MSRP was $42,778. Invoice was $37,780. I paid $37,494.54 which is the GM supplier price. I was also able to take advantage of the $1000 customer loyalty coupon, which made my out the door price $36,494.54.
SO, you can see, the GM supplier price is about $200-300 BELOW invoice. It is a GREAT deal.
DON'T let the dealer try to add anything on.
Fred
First the Supplier price is NOT on the Factory invoice. The factory invoice shows the price the dealer pays for a vehicle before he receives his withhold.
You will never see the GM Employee price on any documentation unless you are an employee of a dealership or are looking over the shoulder of someone on the dealer's computer. The GM employee price is approximately 4.0% less than the factory invoice price (although this can vary by vehicle).
The GMO Supplier price, which is available to employees of companies that supply products and services to GM (you might be surprised that your company qualifies...I work for a healthcare company). The GMO Supplier price is equal to the employee discount plus 4.0%. This final price should be approximately $200-300 UNDER factory invoice.
rab90: STOP!! If your dealer is telling you that your price is 4.0% OVER factory invoice, you are about to be robbed. Run from that dealer and ask no questions. If a dealer is honoring the Employee or Supplier discount program you should either be significantly below invoice for employees or a couple hundred bucks under invoice for employees.
Look up the factory invoice price on Edmunds for the vehicle you want and that will be the approximate price for the supplier discount or take approx. 4.0% off that price for the employee discount. Neither final walk-out-the-door price should include anything else on the sell sheet other than delivery, tax and title unless you specifically asked for it.
For all of you questioning the GMS pricing, This may help. I have a dealer print out on the above vehicle. Here is what is listed on the print out:
MSRP - 44031.00
Invoice - 38838.00 (With 424.00 Ad Fee)
GMS - 37108.34
GMS Supplier: 38592.67
Note that the GMS Supplier is +4% of GMS Employee price
Hope that helps. Any more perspectives on my Ad Fee question?