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Next problem--Load & speed rating. The owner's manual for this coupe states that OEM tire service description is "91V" which I take as "91 load rating--1356 lbs)" and "V speed rating--149 mph)."
The Dunlop SP Sport A2 seems to only be available in the 91-H service desciption for the size P205/60R16.
Since the H speed rating measures at 130 mph, and since I expect to rarely (if ever) travel in excess of 85 mph, am I sacrificing something here by going with an H-rated tire over a V-rated tire?
Is the H-rated tire "safe" for the V6 Accord coupe?
Michelin offers the Energy MXV4 Plus in both the H and V ratings. Evidently, Dunlop offers only the H version.
If you really have to get a V-rated tire Kumho (sp?) get good reviews and they are pretty affordable. And I think you can get Yokohamo A550s in a vrated tire pretty cheap.
Good resource is www.tirerack.com
Steve
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Most Chevrolet Corvette's have individual "tire monitors" which represent the latest technological adaptation. The best thing I can say about them is that on the model that I have, the Z06 does not have them, thank goodness!
I am considering some "Dunlop Radial Rover A/T" tires in the last size, 225/70R14. They're also available in 205/75. However, if I can I'll go with the slightly lower profile ratio. As I'd be buying "online", I don't have the luxury to "buy & try".
Per my ciphering, the 225/70R14 would be 3.75mm taller and 20 mm wider than the 205/75R14 tire. I don't think that the taller tire would be a problem, but am not sure how to check for the added 10mm on "each side".
If this should be on another forum, please advise. Opinions or advice are appreciated.
Tommy
Overall, it is amazing what they do with ABS sensors these days. Braking, traction control, pressure monitors, what's next?
A lot of things, including electronic brake force distribution and various types of stability control systems. The former allows brake pressure to follow the vehicles "ideal torque curve," i.e., the optimum balance between front and rear torque. Conventional systems can only approximate the optimum and need rear brake proportioning to even get close.
With the addition yaw and steering angle sensors, the ABS system can selectively apply pressure to individual brakes to keep you going where you want to go rather than where physics would take you.
These systems are already available on some (mostly high end) cars.
To get my reply back on topic, all this stuff is still worth nada if your tires are poor. The computers are there to help but certainly can't and don't replace low traction rubber.
I don't think so. If someone has tire prices from, say, 30 years ago, we could do a direct comparison with today's prices. My (vague) recollection is that they were a lot cheaper back then.
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If we assume a 195/75-14 as a typical size and look at a midrange tire today, we're looking at about $58 (General Touring A/S from Discount Tire). If tires had kept pace with overall inflation, that tire would be have $13.25 in 1972. I don't think you could buy a new tire in this size for $13.25 back then.
Weren't radials the new thing back then and, therefore, more expensive?
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Were your adjustments done on a Hunter 9700 or like machine? I know that for example high performance tire and wheel combos can balance just fine, but when you take them to their intended limits they are out of balance and alignment? Bottom line is that the above mention machine amoung other things checks the static and dynamic balance.
Regarding alignment, my favorite (not the selling) dealer did one several months ago after the second Michelin dealer re-balanced the tires (his first of 3 trys). He had found a loose suspension component, a flaw left by the selling Toyota dealer who had checked the alignment (and of course found no flaw). I saw the report from their system and the line by line comparison with factory specs. To my eye, they were very close. well within the tolerance range.
Unfortunately, I am still looking for direction. My gut (and the opinion of the second Michelin dealer), is that the tires do not suit the application. His suggestion is yet another brand, Bridgestones or at least a Pilot series Michelin. My challenge is to convince Michelin that this is the case. Any help here would be appreciated.
What would a set of 15" steel wheels cost? It seems that there are many more tire choices in 15". I'd not be interested in beauty, just functional wheels.
Advice or opinions are appreciated.
Tommy
As for aftermarket wheels, there is a massive selection out there. You can get cheapo steel wheels for like $25 each. Look in the classifieds, on e-bay, in junkyards, garage sales, all kinds of places will sell them. Your local tire joints might have OEM take-off's from people with new Toyota trucks. Use a little imagination here.
I'd say just stick with the original wheels and upsize the tire if the truck is older than 5 years.
http://www.babcox.com/editorial/tr/tr50236.htm
Steve
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From Bridgestone/Firestone: In August, we will be introducing a new light truck luxury tire called the Revo in our Bridgestone line. We're also launching a new maximum traction tire in the Firestone line called the Destination MT.
About BFGoodrich: We just introduced a new 24-inch 305/35ZR24 street performance tire in the BFGoodrich line," said Enterline. "BFGoodrich has been sponsoring a number of off-road events and will introduce a new off-road rock climbing tire next year.
thanks
Yokohama Avid H4 or V4
Dunlop SP Sport A2
Bridgestone Turanza LS-H or V
Toyo Proxes FZ4
Toyo Proxes TPT
Michelin XGTH4 or V4
Pirelli P600SV
Get a good set of summer tires, and a good set of winter tires.
All seasons are just a compromise all of the time.
Besides, if it were a weekend, I'd be heading for the slopes.
:-)
One time, during a blizzard, it was so much snow, my Civic got "hung up" after a trip to the pharmacy. It was enough momentum to get into the parking lot, but once I got out of the pharmacy, the additional accumulation plus what was packed underneath wouldn't allow me to leave. A fat lot of good snow tires do if they don't touch the ground! I ended up shoveling out under my car with an awful cold, chills, fever, aches, etc. Taller tires would be recommended if you are going with winter tires. For example, on a Civic, they take 185/60R14 or 175/70R13 or 155/80R13. I would go up one in height to like 165/80R13 or 175/75R13 if you can find the room in there.
For example, in CT, RI, around NY City or Boston there is no need in winter tires. All-season tires better to be good on snow, though. The tirerack user surveys provide the information.
It might as well be central CT through NY, VT, ME, NH.
There MOST CERTAINLY IS a need for winter tires.
I want to keep tire noise to a minimum, and I don't want to spend more than I have to.
The rig came with Bridgestone Duelers, which seem to be wearing okay (now at 25,000 miles, still some life left). Noise is minimal, and grip seems decent.
I'd previously thought about the Michelin LTX, but I think it might be noiser, and the price is high. It may be more tire than I need on a car-based platform.
Do you think the BDs are a decent value, or is there a replacement tire that you think is significantly better?
Thanks.
-ss4
I agree with your asessment of the BDs. If you are happy with them, I'm happy with them. :-)
Tire Rack did a comparo of the BD H/T 689 and the then-new BD H/L and found the H/L to be as good as the H/T but smoother and quieter to boot. I think your size is 215/70-16 and the H/L's come in that size. H/L's are $88 each at Tire Rack. If you stick with the H/T's they're under $70 each at TR.
I'd recommend the Michelin Cross Terrain but you'd have to bump to a 225/70-16 and, boy, are they expensive! As Livia Soprano used to say, "annhhh, I dunno..."
The Continental Contitrac SUV might be a nice choice for a good all-around tire. $76 at Tire Rack is nice too. I see alot of them here in GA where winter traction is less important than a smooth highway ride.
Only tire Goodyear makes in 215/70-16 is the Wrangler HP but you'll pay well over $100 each for it. It ain't that great.
Anyhoo, that's what I dug up. I hope it helps. Lemme know if there's anything I can do.
- - Bretfraz - -
And thanks very much for the helpful info.
Yes, you got my standard H/T tire size right, 215/70-16. You're good.
I was thinking the BDs weren't going to last for 25K+ miles, but they are surprising me. And my one slippage "incident" just could have been my own dang fault. So I'll probably go with the same tires again. Which also means this time I'll work my still-new spare into the rotation.
Again, your help is much appreciated.
Regards,
-ss4
Going to the 225's would add 10mm... which seems to be cutting things close.
Any opinions here about this?
Tommy
xplorx4 "Nissan Pathfinder" Jun 7, 2002 6:30pm
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I don't expect to do any serious off-roading (only once on fire roads so far), and with the RAV's car platform I am looking to go with a good, quiet on-road tire at a decent price.
Regards,
-ss4