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Hope this helps!
Drew
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If you can deal with a lease, which is perhaps the old balloon financing with a legal out - you can get some fantastic deals. When I filled out the paperwork about three weeks ago, here's what we got.
First, insist on invoice price on the vehicle and all options. Dealer gets at least $700 in holdback. Secondly you can combine a $2000 loyalty cash (if you've ended a Jeep lease within the past several months) with a lease cash allowance of $3750.
Other finance info can be seen on jeeps Website, on the rebates link.
Now here's where things get a little confusing. In most regions, there is also $1000 dealer cash which they *Should* offer to you.. Which all adds up to a total possible incentive of $6750. However, and you can see this for your self at the Financing link on Jeeps website, leases apparently can only have a max rebate of something like %20 off from total MSRP. For the Cherokee I ordered, this amount was $27,500 - which includes $2300 for the Sport Package - and total invoice was $22,900 Through some sort of sleight of hand by a dealer wanting to sell, he managed to get me about $6100 cash, or in lease terms, capital cost reduction. Because these incentives "Maxed out" the amount needed to start the lease, I had only to fork over the first months payment and title fees.
At some point, I'm going to reach a mileage committment. The lease contract allows 15,000 miles per year, which is probably 5000 or so less than what I'll ned up putting on it. The excess mileage charge is a steep 18 cents per - so if I really do drive around a lot, I'll have to pay up one way or another - lots of cash to pay for mileage and lose the vehicle - or pay off the residual. I'm planning on buying it then anyways, unless it turns out to be a lemon. As for the long term dollars, three years of lease payments of $300 each month works out to about $10,000. Plus the residual is just about the same amount. BTW, if I had taken the straight $2000 cash and $1000 dealer cash, I'd be looking at financing about the same amount.
Also here is a Mopar site which describs a couple.
http://www.mopar.com/m_perf_parts_product_part.jsp?categoryID=16361&itemID=745
But I want to tell you about my 1993 Sport 4 door 6 cyl 2wd automatic because it was one of the best vehicles that I have owned espicially on the basis of cost.
I bought it new in Atlanta for $15,000. It was red, (wife hates red, I love red!)
I did have some problems over the 7 years that I owned it. The horn was replaced 12 miles before the warranty was up; it always had a harmonic sort of noise between 60 and 70 mph; the fuel pump (I think it was the fuel pump), would humm on trips after an hour or so on the road; I had front rotor problems at about 70K miles compounded by my not having the breaks looked into sooner; and it had wind noise around the front driver side door, (for our friends in Canada, the noise was about the door).
The above may sound like a bunch but it happened over a long period of time and I sold the car to my bother-in-law when it had approx. 113,000 miles on it. Since it was garage kept it looked like new even after I sold it.
I always got 22 - 24 mpg in mixed driving.
The thing I liked most was that 4.0 engine; I am sure that it will still beat my new Highlander from 0 to 60.
I always liked that car. Sadly some drunk redneck sob ran into it and it may now be damaged beyond repair.
I hope that all of you that have the newer ones will enjoy them as much as I enjoyed my 93.
Thanks for listening.
dan
Btw, those colours are pretty neat but I couldn't buy one for myself. I ended up with a Black Sport.
I do know the differences between the XJ, WJ, ZJ, MJ, TJ, CJ, SJ, and the god forsaken why-can't-it-be-a-dodge KJ. I was just trying to be helpful. I hope I didn't come off sounding uppity about it, but I do think there are some people who don't know they are different. Why ask Cherokee owners what they think about Grand Cherokees? Now if the question is about Jeeps in general...
Sandyboy, nice vehicle you got! Congratulations.
the Scrambler?
the Commando? (or was it Comandeer?)
I went searching a few Jeep history sites, and the Jeepster Commando, made by AMC and Kaiser, was C101.
Drew
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My Jeep Sahara had a similar problem , I went totally crazy until someone figured out it was my catalytic converter. It had clogged and fouled the engine...fooling all the sensors etc. worth a look-! good luck
Dan
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No major damage? No major damage? Wow, I wish I had your outlook. Yikes!
Sandy Boy
S A N D Y
2. They never wash their car, allthough they can spend hours on end working on the lawn, the car sits in the driveway, filthy, the lawn they are cutting, they cut 4 days ago, the car got washed last year.
3. They always have something to say about my washing my cars, like "you're gonna wash of the paint", or didn't you just wash that last week?
4. Just this past February, a major snowfall was hours away. I backed down the driveway, to leave and there was a HUGE blop of bird poop on the windshield. I got out, got the 409 window cleaner out of the trunk, sprayed up the windshield and was wiping it off with a paper towel, when the neighbor from 6 houses away drives by, stops, puts down her window and says, "Washing your car BEFORE the storm?" No Bucket. No Hose, No Soap. No Wash Mitt, just a bottle of window cleaner & 2 squares of paper towel, and she's giving it to me! Can you imagine if I haul out a step ladder to do the Cherokee's roof???????
What I would do:
Take a mop and bucket, and walk around the car a few times. Then stay on the side away from them and let them wonder what you are doing. Then, wash it twice in a row, just to see what they say.
I would hate to have them see me with the toothbrush and QTips doing some serious cleaning.
Or to take off the wheels, and wash and wax the backside (to prevent corrosion from brake dust). Or to wash and wax the underside of the hood, or inside door sills and door jambs.
;-P
Thanks,
Eric
The only minus looks like less luggage room behind rear seats.
Its replacement, the Liberty, is a 2002 model.
Regarding 2001 Cherokees, they stopped taking new orders back in very early April. Now, it's locate from a dealer what you want. Sports comprise 88% of dealer inventory, 12% are Limiteds. Either way, you better go out immediately. There is no 2002 Cherokee, and the Toledo Plant 1 will build the final unit on June 22nd, I was told by a Zone Rep. If you want a coupe (2-door) lots o luck! They are extremely scarce!!! At http://www.jeepunpaved.com you can search dealers inventory, but it's a long and tiring process. At dealer can do it for you in less than 2 minutes, as did mine. The new-for-2001 Steel Blue color and the Sienna color are had to find. The Red, Black, Silver and Dk. Green are the easiest. Don't like the dealer?? Tell him you'll pay LIST price for a Steel Blue 2-Door with manual tranny!!!! ha ha ha
I've only washed my Jeep twice since I bought it in late-december. 16K miles on the clock now. Leaving on a fishing trip about midnight tonight, gonna put another 500 miles on her.
Sandyboy - I've always been able to get the whole roof with just a five-gallon plastic bucket as a step/stool. But you can always climb up on the rear tire and reach most of it, until you cramp up and crash.
AmberFire on the closeouts? I don't want to hear about it - after two beautiful metallic copper (87) and Champagne (93) 4x4 Sports, the only UpCountry / Tow package I found was in white... like a washing machine. But with a Conferr rack and Ecco wheels it looks pretty good. I love it - just like the last two!
Next will be Cooper Discoverers and a rear tire carrier - Does anyone know of a solid, swing-away carrier that doesn't replace the entire rear bumper??? Had the Mopar unit on my 93 but they redesigned the bumpers. Now Mopar offers a roof-rack spare tire carrier (sure...jump right up there....)
i'm pretty sure just the invoice cost for that vechicle was $21,525.00! What part of the country are you in?
My question is this:
Those who recently (past 6 months?) purchased a Cherokee or Liberty, could you please post on separate lines the price paid, model, options, interest, cash back, and location?
Again, think about how you post it, so it makes for an easy comparison. I will even provide an example from which you can cut and paste and change info to your own:
Paid: $19,999
Model: Cherokee Sport
Options: Towing package
Interest: 1.9%
Cash back: $1000
Where: ABC Motors, Boston
Thanks in advance.
2001 Cherokee Sport
Custom Ordered Options:
Auto Tranny, Full-time FWD (SelectTrac), Tow Package, Tint Glass, Heated Mirrors and Block Heater.
MSRP on Vehicle Label = $27,500
Cash Back = Invoice price of vehicle with all options, $2000 Lease Loyalty and $4000 factory lease incentives
From: Kayser Chrysler, Sauk City, WI
Payment strategy: No Down Lease, $300 /mo. for 36 months then finance residual for about 10,000. Total of payments about $20,000
Thanks, though.
I keep my vehicles until dead (except this one, I currently have a '92 Civic with 131,000 miles on it, and it is still kicking). I just need the off road ability and a little more room since I now have a boat, a dog, and a wife.
How much were the heated mirrors? I think I can do without those. The others sound about like what I'd look at too.
Heated mirrors cost all of $45!
Some folks may disagree, I feel steel wheels are more durable. One reason I ordered is because most pre-packaged vehicles with SelectTrac were the Limiteds - and they only have aluminum wheels. It's the same reason I feel if all else is equal, cast iron engines are better than aluminum.
Cherokee Limited
Silverstone Metallic
Agate Interior
Leather Group
Heated Seats
Dual 6-Way Pwr. Seats
Smoker's Group
ABS
Cargo Cover
Overhead Console
Selec-Trac Transfer Case
Deep Tint
Heated Pwr. Mirrors
Sentry key
Fog Lamps
Speed Control
Cassette/C.D./Gr. Equalizer
Infiniti Gold Premium Speakers (6)
$28,140 MSRLP
$26,142.00 Invoice
$02,000.00 Rebate
$00,354.00 Profit
$24,500.00 Price
$00,250.00 Wood Kit
$00,245.00 Tranny Cooler
$00,079.00 Cargo Protect. Mat
$25,074.00 Total
$01,504.44 6% Sales Tax
$00,151.00 Title, Registration, Plates
$26,729.00 Total
$00,005.00 Tip to guy who clean car
$00,020.00 Tip to my great Salesman
$26,754.00 Total
(Sorry if I got too carried away ~ 'ya know, NU TOY)