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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,368
    edited March 2015
    First one has that awkward slab sided narrowness common out of postwar Germany, but RHD tells me it might not be.

    The second one is a Graber-bodied Alvis T21 - that Bern plate makes sense.
    magnette said:

    Try these two



  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited March 2015
    Lil' help please.

    Do you know this car?
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226
    edited March 2015
    fintail said:

    First one has that awkward slab sided narrowness common out of postwar Germany, but RHD tells me it might not be.

    The second one is a Graber-bodied Alvis T21 - that Bern plate makes sense.

    magnette said:

    Try these two


    The Swiss registered car is an Alvis TE21 with a body by Graber.

    The other car is related to Rover, but a separate marque,



  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226
    The first one is related to Rover but a separate marque,

    The second is a Graber bodied Alvis TE21
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    The convertible is based off a Rover P4 and was I think, a Marauder. This was a spin off project by a couple of the Rover engineers who set up shop independently, producing rather pretty convertibles under the trading name of Mackie, Wilks and Co. That idea of using a pretty tame manufacturer's saloon as the base for a low production special, occurred often in Britain. However huge tax increases on luxury cars during the Korean War killed the idea.

    Cheers

    GRaham
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226

    G'day

    The convertible is based off a Rover P4 and was I think, a Marauder. This was a spin off project by a couple of the Rover engineers who set up shop independently, producing rather pretty convertibles under the trading name of Mackie, Wilks and Co. That idea of using a pretty tame manufacturer's saloon as the base for a low production special, occurred often in Britain. However huge tax increases on luxury cars during the Korean War killed the idea.

    Cheers

    GRaham

    G'day Graham

    You've done it again - it is indeed the Marauder - they made about 15 - and I think more than half still survive - for a rare 65 year old car they certainly turn up at car shows etc. as I must have seen quite a few over the years

    Cheers.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    A recently deceased friend was a devoted Rover fan, with a seemingly endless supply of old Rovers. The P4 was an interesting beast with suicide rear doors and a freewheel mechanism which allowed the engine to return to idle on over-run; one of those ideas that probably seemed fine at the time. The P4 was a good candidate for body builders and apart from the Marauder, I think Tickford and Pininfasrina did specials.

    The next generation, the P5 and then the P6 were stand outs, especially when fitted with the GM derived 3.5l V8 engine (P5B referring to the engine's Buick origins). At the end of production in the early 1970s the British government is supposed to have bought up a batch and stored them for use as ministerial cars. One of the defining images at the start of Margaret Thatcher's term in office was her arriving in an apparently elderly Rover P5, signalling her frugality. It is one of those images where art (the photograph) perfectly captures a cultural change.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,368
    Hillman Husky?
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Definitely a late 50s Husky. I bet they never came in that colour... and why can't I see any rust?

    My sister's boyfriend had one in the early 70s. I seem to recall that the rear door opened to one side, which seemed really strange to me at the time.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098

    G'day

    Definitely a late 50s Husky. I bet they never came in that colour... and why can't I see any rust?

    My sister's boyfriend had one in the early 70s. I seem to recall that the rear door opened to one side, which seemed really strange to me at the time.

    Cheers

    Graham

    My Gen 2 CR-V rear door also opened to the right side instead of up. Convenient for loading, but not so convenient for parking.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226

    G'day

    Definitely a late 50s Husky. I bet they never came in that colour... and why can't I see any rust?

    My sister's boyfriend had one in the early 70s. I seem to recall that the rear door opened to one side, which seemed really strange to me at the time.

    Cheers

    Graham

    Yes - thats the second series Husky. The first one had a grille like the mid fifties MkVII Minx and a more rounded look but this one had the later shape Minx grille - this would be equivalent to the series II Minx. They face lifted it again later for the series III.

    There was an equivalent van - the Commer Cob - and you could get a kit to convert a van into the equivalent Husky which had the advantage that it avoided purchase tax - vans were sold nett of tax which was about 25% on the car then so a couple of hours fitting windows at 1950's wages would have been worth it.

    This is a Commer Cob that was converted - slightly different grille from the true Husky.


  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226
    Another picture from the museum I went to last week.....


  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,627
    I can never figure out what cars GR and MAG are posting, but I enjoy expanding my knowledge. :)
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,368
    Maybe a Mk1 Ford Consul? I think a lot of these old "estates" were by a firm called Farnham.
    magnette said:

    Another picture from the museum I went to last week.....

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I think you may be right Fin on the English Ford. Wonder what year it is? Funny, the roof line and greenhouse look like they have a bit of early 50's Rambler influence in them.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    I think it might be a Ford Consul from the mid to late 1950s, but have never seen a station wagon. Is it coach-built or factory?

    Cheers

    Graham
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226
    fintail said:

    Maybe a Mk1 Ford Consul? I think a lot of these old "estates" were by a firm called Farnham.




    Yes Fin it is a Mk 1 Ford Consul with an estate conversion by Farnham - it is quite rare but they offered this on the Zephyr as well and there were some Zodiacs too. It was a conversion but was factory approved and you could buy them through Ford dealers.
    Early 50's - they changed to the Mk II in late 1956 and Farnham did a version of that (and the MkIII Zephyr etc as well as the Corsair).
    Ford finally got the message and for the Cortina they built an estate themselves - as for the Anglia - but I think Farnham carried on right through to the MkIV Zephyrs...

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,226

    I can never figure out what cars GR and MAG are posting, but I enjoy expanding my knowledge. :)

    I always find the range of US cars amazing - we only saw limited numbers of these here....
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Funny, we're always complaining about the cars we don't get over here.


  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    The new Honda Accordian?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,368
    1967 Plymouth GTX, or likely, a standard car badged as a GTX, as it isn't treated very well. From "Tommy Boy", which will always be a classic of the era.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Yep, number 25 on the Top 102 Movie Cars of All Time list.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    edited March 2015

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    64 Mercury. maybe a Marauder, but I can't tell for sure.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    Yup that's a '64 Mercury Marauder/390.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,206
    Late 70s triumph TR. Probably an 8 based on the badge on the side. I actually like these!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ah, the "wedge". We'll probably never see wedge cars again---very 80s. The TR8 can be a nice little car once you sort them out. At least it's an engine that has a good chance of survival, unlike the dreadful 4 cylinder version. You know that when the FACTORY advises you to double the head gaskets, that you have a problem.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,084
    A cinch for you Anglophiles:

  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,586
    texases said:

    A cinch for you Anglophiles:

    Just shooting from the hip, I will say a Daimler Dart.

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,084
    Hmm...not a cinch after all...nope.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662
    That's an early 60s Turner Mk.II, a rarity from one of the many small manufacturers that proliferated in the UK at that time. It was probably better than most of the garbage being turned out by Leyland and BMC, Turner Sports had a good rep in production racing circles IIRC

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,084
    Yep, it's a Turner, listed as a '59 Mk I, but that could be wrong. Fried met with a guy who races one in classic races.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 261,284
    Austin 7?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    andys120 said:


    G'day

    Possibly Lancia Ardea, from the shape of the louvres in the bonnet side but I don't know about the script across the grille. If so, it had the smallest V4 ever made of about 900cc. They were made through the second world war and for about ten years after.

    Pretty, isn't it?

    Cheers

    Graham
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709

    Sure this isn't a 1979-80 Triumph TR-7?

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 264,142


    Sure this isn't a 1979-80 Triumph TR-7?

    I think so, too.. that badge says 2.0 Litre?

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  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Member Posts: 7,709

    I can't tell what that badge says. This doesn't compare to the beauty of the early Triumph's like the TR-3 or TR-4 or TR-250 but it still kind of rocks in it's own way, though.

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    andys120 said:


    G'day

    I am hesitant to weigh into this, because I have never much liked Triumph's and thought the TR7, which we only ever saw as a hardtop, an ugly ******. The convertible, which seemed to make it to the USA, looks a lot prettier.

    25 years ago, I shared an office with an engineer who loved (and from his recent emails, still does) Triumphs. I might forgive his habit of leaving well matured sausage sandwiches with chutney in his desk drawer (the smell would eventually draw my attention) and his large Rottweiler, who had an endearing habit of chasing torch beams across the floor, but his taste in British automobiles, was a mystery. He was a fount of knowledge for all things Triumph although his thick Midlands accent made me ponder whether sub-titles would assist.

    Each TR7 was seemingly individually crafted; it is possible, from the shape of the bonnet bulge (this is a double bulge), the Laurel Wreath transfer on the bonnet and the 2.0 LITRE badge on the flank to figure out the production era and what factory the car came from (Speke, Canley or Solihull). The bumpers are another hint and the pop up headlights also say something for the expert. I do recall that originals had tartan interiors; this is an era that good taste forgot, if it ever visited!

    Cheers

    Graham
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,206
    That says 2.0? I thought it was 3.5. Darn. Need a monitor, not a tablet, for this!

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  • stevedebistevedebi Member Posts: 4,098


    Sure this isn't a 1979-80 Triumph TR-7?

    I sincerely hope no one is going to say those fog lights are OEM.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I hate to be the one steve but....yeah. You have to remember, that most British car makers after WW II used whatever they could grab off the shelves. You'll see a lot of even mid-year changes that don't look at all purposeful, but rather convenient.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,662

    andys120 said:


    G'day

    Possibly Lancia Ardea, from the shape of the louvres in the bonnet side but I don't know about the script across the grille. If so, it had the smallest V4 ever made of about 900cc. They were made through the second world war and for about ten years after.

    Pretty, isn't it?

    Cheers

    Graham
    Yup, that sure is a (1948) Lancia Ardea. It's a crying shame that Fiat has so debased the once great name of Lancia.

    I found only one another photo of an Ardea with a "signed" grille.>


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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,084
    1965ish Alfa Giulia TZ2?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Spot on with the '65 Alfa part.
  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Anyone going to the NY Auto Show next week?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    If you do go to the NY show, you should be able to see that Alfa on display (unless it was only up for press days).

    The rest of it is - 1965 Alfa Romeo CZ2.
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