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2015 BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe Lease Questions

amp512amp512 Member Posts: 41
edited April 2015 in BMW
Can someone provide MF and residual on 2015 428i X-Drive Gran Coupe for 12k and 15k miles?
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    edited October 2014
    amp512 said:

    Can someone provide MF and residual on 2015 428i X-Drive Gran Coupe for 12k and 15k miles?


    .00129 MF and 62%/60% residual. $750 Innovations credit. 36 months.

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  • mrgatsbymrgatsby Member Posts: 8
    Kyfdx - can you please provide MF and Residual for a '15 435i Gran Coup (rwd). w/ cw package, Driver assist., and premium package. 36mo/10k and 12k? Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    mrgatsby said:

    Kyfdx - can you please provide MF and Residual for a '15 435i Gran Coup (rwd). w/ cw package, Driver assist., and premium package. 36mo/10k and 12k? Thanks!

    .00130 and 61% for 39 months 12,000 miles per year. Add 1% for 10K. 36 month residuals are 1% worse than 39 month numbers in January.

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  • djshakesdjshakes Member Posts: 13
    Hi Kyfdx, can you please provide MF and residuals for 15' 428xi Gran Coupe and 435xi Gran Coupe for 24 and 30 months?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    djshakes said:

    Hi Kyfdx, can you please provide MF and residuals for 15' 428xi Gran Coupe and 435xi Gran Coupe for 24 and 30 months?

    .00130 and 64% for 24/15 and 61% for 30/15

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  • djshakesdjshakes Member Posts: 13
    Thanks!
  • ariel7ariel7 Member Posts: 22
    Looking to lease a 2015 428xi gran coupe, 39 months 10k miles.  MSRP 49,500

    Can someone share what the current MF and residual are (both with 7 MSD and without)

    Also what would a good lease payment be with all fees and tax rolled into the payment?  NJ tax and they are saying 1700 in fees including acquisition fee.

    thanks!

     
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    ariel7 said:

    Looking to lease a 2015 428xi gran coupe, 39 months 10k miles.  MSRP 49,500

    Can someone share what the current MF and residual are (both with 7 MSD and without)

    Also what would a good lease payment be with all fees and tax rolled into the payment?  NJ tax and they are saying 1700 in fees including acquisition fee.

    thanks!

     

    .00130 is the base MF (.00081 after 7 MSD) and 62% for 39/10.

    We would need to know the net cap cost in order to model a payment for you.

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  • ariel7ariel7 Member Posts: 22
    Can you tell me with 47,700 cap cost? And also 48200?

    Thanks!  Really appreciate your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    ariel7 said:

    Can you tell me with 47,700 cap cost? And also 48200?

    Thanks!  Really appreciate your help!

    $551.53/mo pre-tax with $48,200 cap cost; $538.06/mo for $47,700 cap cost.

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  • ariel7ariel7 Member Posts: 22
    Thanks!
  • bt83bt83 Member Posts: 9
    Please post March lease rates for the 2015 428i xDrive gran coupe 36 or 39 month with 10k miles per year. Thanks in advance!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    bt83 said:

    Please post March lease rates for the 2015 428i xDrive gran coupe 36 or 39 month with 10k miles per year. Thanks in advance!


    .00129 MF and 64% residual for 36mo, 10K/yr

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  • amp512amp512 Member Posts: 41
    edited March 2015
    Kyfdx and Michaell: Is 428i xDrive Gran Coupe with 15k miles/36 months 60% and 0.00129 correct for March 2015? Do BMW offer lowering 0.00129 MF even further by doing MSDs?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    amp512 said:

    Kyfdx and Michaell: Is 428i xDrive Gran Coupe with 15k miles/36 months 60% and 0.00129 correct for March 2015? Do BMW offer lowering 0.00129 MF even further by doing MSDs?

    61% for 36/15 on all 4-series Gran Coupes. MSDs will lower the base MF of .00129 - max 7 MSD brings the MF down to .00080

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  • lvlalvla Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2015
    Trying to lease a 428i GC 36 months/15k.

    MSRP is $40,300. With options (sport line 2, premium, tech, wheels, heated seats, metallic paint) $49,750. Selling price $44,865

    Total Cap Cost $46,167 (includes license and registration $427 and bank fee $795 and document fee $80)

    Residual value $30,347 (61%. Is this dollar value correct? I don't get that when I run the numbers).
    Money Factor .8

    Monthly payment $500.64 + tax (CA 9%) $43.99 = $544.63

    Drive off is $3500 for MSD and first payment = $4394.64

    Are these numbers correct? Any suggestions on lowering my payment? Can I negotiate down the selling price or is $5000 off MSRP considered a pretty good deal. On the line items, it mentions Tier II discount - Pre 1/2015 inventory and give $0 for that. Is there a possibility of a much bigger discount because of that?

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    lvla said:

    Trying to lease a 428i GC 36 months/15k.

    MSRP is $40,300. With options (sport line 2, premium, tech, wheels, heated seats, metallic paint) $49,750. Selling price $44,865

    Total Cap Cost $46,167 (includes license and registration $427 and bank fee $795 and document fee $80)

    Residual value $30,347 (61%. Is this dollar value correct? I don't get that when I run the numbers).
    Money Factor .8

    Monthly payment $500.64 + tax (CA 9%) $43.99 = $544.63

    Drive off is $3500 for MSD and first payment = $4394.64

    Are these numbers correct? Any suggestions on lowering my payment? Can I negotiate down the selling price or is $5000 off MSRP considered a pretty good deal. On the line items, it mentions Tier II discount - Pre 1/2015 inventory and give $0 for that. Is there a possibility of a much bigger discount because of that?

    My pre-tax payment matches yours to the penny, but when I apply the 9% tax, the payment goes to $545.70, so about $1 more than your quote.

    $5K off sticker is pretty good - normally, a 4-6% discount is what we advise folks to shoot for.

    I don't have any information on the Tier II discount.

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  • jhcsjhcs Member Posts: 26
    I am looking at a 36mth 15k yr lease in South Florida and have the following questions:
    What is the residual value of this lease?
    What are the current incentives that I should expect?
    How can I confirm I am offered all the dealer incentives?
    What are my options or what else should I make sure I know if I am looking to pay for the entire lease upfront?

    thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    jhcs said:

    I am looking at a 36mth 15k yr lease in South Florida and have the following questions:
    What is the residual value of this lease?
    What are the current incentives that I should expect?
    How can I confirm I am offered all the dealer incentives?
    What are my options or what else should I make sure I know if I am looking to pay for the entire lease upfront?

    thanks

    .00130 and 60%

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  • jdagnjdagn Member Posts: 31
    Hello! Can you please share what the money factor and residual for a 12k/36month lease on a 435i GC is for April? I see the info for a 428 here, but not a 435. Thanks!

    Also, is this likely to change for May? Or does it stay the same?

    I am going to order the car, and also thinking of doing European Delivery in August. So buying a 2016 435iGC is a possibility. Would the money factor/residual change significantly on a 2016?

    Thanks very much for your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    jdagn said:

    Hello! Can you please share what the money factor and residual for a 12k/36month lease on a 435i GC is for April? I see the info for a 428 here, but not a 435. Thanks!

    Also, is this likely to change for May? Or does it stay the same?

    I am going to order the car, and also thinking of doing European Delivery in August. So buying a 2016 435iGC is a possibility. Would the money factor/residual change significantly on a 2016?

    Thanks very much for your help!

    All the Gran Coupes have the same numbers - .00130 and 62% for 36/12.

    No idea what will happen with the numbers next month.

    Yes, I would expect the residual on a new 2016 to be higher than that on a leftover 2015. By how much, I don't know.

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  • jdagnjdagn Member Posts: 31
    Thanks for the info!
  • gatorscottygatorscotty Member Posts: 14
    I'm trying to figure out the Edmunds lease calculator, but when I use it to simulate the BMW Special Offer it comes up much higher. Can you tell me why?

    I'm using the current add for a 428 IX Gran Coupe, 48,650, 62% residual, .0013 money factor, $795 acquisition fee, $3,000 deposit, 10,000 miles, and taking off $1,000 for the Innovations Credit. However, instead of $429 on BMW's site I'm coming up with $556 on Edmunds.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    I'm trying to figure out the Edmunds lease calculator, but when I use it to simulate the BMW Special Offer it comes up much higher. Can you tell me why?

    I'm using the current add for a 428 IX Gran Coupe, 48,650, 62% residual, .0013 money factor, $795 acquisition fee, $3,000 deposit, 10,000 miles, and taking off $1,000 for the Innovations Credit. However, instead of $429 on BMW's site I'm coming up with $556 on Edmunds.

    What is the selling price? BMW's advertised lease deal assumes a discount from MSRP. (also, the MF is .00129).

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  • gatorscottygatorscotty Member Posts: 14
    I was just trying to get it to work off the MSRP to make sure I was using it correctly. So I used 48,650. Chaging the money factor by .00001 wouldn't account for that payment difference, so I must be using this incorrectly somehow (or misunderstanding the standard BMW offer).
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    I was just trying to get it to work off the MSRP to make sure I was using it correctly. So I used 48,650. Chaging the money factor by .00001 wouldn't account for that payment difference, so I must be using this incorrectly somehow (or misunderstanding the standard BMW offer).

    To calculate a lease, you need to know the CAP cost, which includes the selling price + other costs rolled into the lease minus downpayments and rebates.. You can't compare, unless you have all the variables.

    On the BMW advertised lease on this model, they assume a dealer discount of $1525, in addition to the $1000 credit and $3000 cap cost reduction.

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  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I am looking for the residual and MF for a 2015 Gran Coupe 428i assuming a 36-month lease, and 10k/12k per year. Also, in terms of the price, I recognize there are acquisition fees etc. to consider, but should I consider the purchase price of the car to be Invoice less $1,000, or should I expect to do better here?

    I am in TX so the sales tax thing kills me - any suggestions here? If I trade my car in does it offset against the capital cost like in a normal vehicle purchase?

    Thanks. Any other guidance is appreciated it has been 7-years since I have leased and at that time I think I actually did a balloon payment. Do they still do those?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090

    I am looking for the residual and MF for a 2015 Gran Coupe 428i assuming a 36-month lease, and 10k/12k per year. Also, in terms of the price, I recognize there are acquisition fees etc. to consider, but should I consider the purchase price of the car to be Invoice less $1,000, or should I expect to do better here?

    I am in TX so the sales tax thing kills me - any suggestions here? If I trade my car in does it offset against the capital cost like in a normal vehicle purchase?

    Thanks. Any other guidance is appreciated it has been 7-years since I have leased and at that time I think I actually did a balloon payment. Do they still do those?

    .00129 and 63% for 36/12. Add 1% for 10K. $1000 anniversary cash.

    5-7% off MSRP before incentives is a good deal on a new BMW.

    Short of moving to another state, I don't have any suggestions for you on the Texas sales tax issue. I've heard from others on these discussions that some makes and dealers will offer a sales tax credit to help ease the pain; you can talk to your local dealer(s) about that.

    BMW offers Owners Choice, which is, I believe, a balloon payment program.

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  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    So last month I was looking for information on the 428i Gran Coupe. I am wondering if the MF or residuals have changed. If anyone knows about Owners Choice differences that would be great too. I have learned a bit to know that it is the balloon payment program, but what I am not sure of is how the interest rates are tied to either a lease or a traditional finance. I have been told it is set up separately than the traditional financing, but I am not sure if that is being said to get me to back off of a 3.5% interest rate.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090

    So last month I was looking for information on the 428i Gran Coupe. I am wondering if the MF or residuals have changed. If anyone knows about Owners Choice differences that would be great too. I have learned a bit to know that it is the balloon payment program, but what I am not sure of is how the interest rates are tied to either a lease or a traditional finance. I have been told it is set up separately than the traditional financing, but I am not sure if that is being said to get me to back off of a 3.5% interest rate.

    .00128 and 61% for 36/15. $1000 lease cash.

    Owners Choice APR is 3%

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  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    Thanks. I pulled the trigger. They got me a little on the interest rate @ 3.5%, but I got the car at invoice, less $2k for a the innovations credit + a USAA member credit.

    I am happy with the deal, mostly because I feel good about the price but also because it was the exact color and options combo I wanted without the wait of a new build.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188

    Thanks. I pulled the trigger. They got me a little on the interest rate @ 3.5%, but I got the car at invoice, less $2k for a the innovations credit + a USAA member credit.

    I am happy with the deal, mostly because I feel good about the price but also because it was the exact color and options combo I wanted without the wait of a new build.

    Congrats on the new BMW!

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  • enthusiast13enthusiast13 Member Posts: 9
    Hi, I'm looking for July residual and money factor rates for a '15 428i xdrive with the following terms 36/10K. I'm located in KY. Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090

    Hi, I'm looking for July residual and money factor rates for a '15 428i xdrive with the following terms 36/10K. I'm located in KY. Thank you.

    .00130 and 64%. $1000 buildout cash.

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  • j97531j97531 Member Posts: 4
    Hello, I'm looking at 428i grand coupe for July. Can you share MF and residual for july? 36/10k and 36/12.5k?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    j97531 said:

    Hello, I'm looking at 428i grand coupe for July. Can you share MF and residual for july? 36/10k and 36/12.5k?

    .00130 MF and 64%/63% residual. $1000 buildout cash.

    (it's 12K/yr, not 12.5K/yr)

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  • j97531j97531 Member Posts: 4
    kyfdx said:

    j97531 said:

    Hello, I'm looking at 428i grand coupe for July. Can you share MF and residual for july? 36/10k and 36/12.5k?

    .00130 MF and 64%/63% residual. $1000 buildout cash.

    (it's 12K/yr, not 12.5K/yr)
    Thank you!
  • soupconsoupcon Member Posts: 25
    sorry if this has been posted, but can you tell me the 24 and 27 mo rates for a 435i gran coupe RWD? 10k/yr is ok. thanks in advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    soupcon said:

    sorry if this has been posted, but can you tell me the 24 and 27 mo rates for a 435i gran coupe RWD? 10k/yr is ok. thanks in advance.

    .00130 MF and 70%/67%64% residual for 24/30/36 months, 10K/yr. $1000 buildout cash.

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  • stone19stone19 Member Posts: 28
    Looking to possibly order 2016 435i Gran Coupe by months end, any info on 2016 residuals for 15k/36? Assuming money factor is still .00130 ?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    stone19 said:

    Looking to possibly order 2016 435i Gran Coupe by months end, any info on 2016 residuals for 15k/36? Assuming money factor is still .00130 ?

    .00130 and 64% plus $1000 buildout credit for 36/10 - these are the only numbers we have at the moment.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    stone19 said:

    Looking to possibly order 2016 435i Gran Coupe by months end, any info on 2016 residuals for 15k/36? Assuming money factor is still .00130 ?

    61% residual for 36mo, 15K/yr

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  • audieddyaudieddy Member Posts: 52
    edited August 2015
    Hi lease master,
    Can you tell me the money factor and residual for a 2015 (not 2016) Gran Coupe 428ix for 36 months/15k a year for August? Also does it have the $1000 build out incentive?

    thanks in advance
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    audieddy said:

    Hi lease master,
    Can you tell me the money factor and residual for a 2015 (not 2016) Gran Coupe 428ix for 36 months/15k a year for August? Also does it have the $1000 build out incentive?

    thanks in advance

    .00130 and 61% for 36/15. $1000 buildout cash is available.

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  • soupconsoupcon Member Posts: 25
    kyfdx said:

    soupcon said:

    sorry if this has been posted, but can you tell me the 24 and 27 mo rates for a 435i gran coupe RWD? 10k/yr is ok. thanks in advance.

    .00130 MF and 70%/67%64% residual for 24/30/36 months, 10K/yr. $1000 buildout cash.
    thanks. i should have been specific, in case it matters: 2015.
    also has it changed for august?
    thanks again.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,188
    soupcon said:

    kyfdx said:

    soupcon said:

    sorry if this has been posted, but can you tell me the 24 and 27 mo rates for a 435i gran coupe RWD? 10k/yr is ok. thanks in advance.

    .00130 MF and 70%/67%64% residual for 24/30/36 months, 10K/yr. $1000 buildout cash.
    thanks. i should have been specific, in case it matters: 2015.
    also has it changed for august?
    thanks again.
    Those were the 2015 numbers, and they are still the same for August.

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  • steved05steved05 Member Posts: 1
    Hi Lease Master,
    Can you please tell me the money factor and residual for a 2015 435i xdrive for 36 months and 12k per year for August?
    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    steved05 said:

    Hi Lease Master,
    Can you please tell me the money factor and residual for a 2015 435i xdrive for 36 months and 12k per year for August?
    Thanks!

    .00130 and 63%. $1000 buildout cash.

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  • mc10422mc10422 Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2015
    Hello, Looking to order a 2016 435i Gran Coupe by month end, do you have money factor and residual info for 10k/36? One dealer quoted 58% for the 2016 model.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 240,090
    mc10422 said:

    Hello, Looking to order a 2016 435i Gran Coupe by month end, do you have money factor and residual info for 10k/36? One dealer quoted 58% for the 2016 model.

    .00130 and 58% for 36/10

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