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2016 Cadillac Escalade lease questions

MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
edited May 2016 in Cadillac
Ask your Escalade lease questions here!

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    hammer3612hammer3612 Member Posts: 32
    What are the numbers in Texas on a 2016 2wd Escalade with Luxury package at 36/15 and is there a different term # that may be in a sweet spot?
    Thank you
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319

    What are the numbers in Texas on a 2016 2wd Escalade with Luxury package at 36/15 and is there a different term # that may be in a sweet spot?
    Thank you

    .00144 and 61%

    36 months is the sweet spot

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    jmcnj248jmcnj248 Member Posts: 1
    Hi Michaell, looks like you are the man to ask.  Is this a good deal. 

    2016 Cadillax Escalade ESV Luxury AWD, 36 mths Lease, includes (dent protection, tire/rim, & key/roadside service), 12k miles per year - lease payment: $985.00 mSRP: $86k
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    jmcnj248 said:

    Hi Michaell, looks like you are the man to ask.  Is this a good deal. 

    2016 Cadillax Escalade ESV Luxury AWD, 36 mths Lease, includes (dent protection, tire/rim, & key/roadside service), 12k miles per year - lease payment: $985.00 mSRP: $86k

    .00144 MF and 63% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr.

    Need to know the selling price and/or CAP cost to check the calculations

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    jddssc121jddssc121 Member Posts: 151
    edited June 2016
    Can you share the breakdown for the Escalade (not ESV) for 36/15? Not sure if the residual changes based on trim level, but if it does, can you provide all of them?

    Also, any incentives/rebates?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    jddssc121 said:

    Can you share the breakdown for the Escalade (not ESV) for 36/15? Not sure if the residual changes based on trim level, but if it does, can you provide all of them?

    .00144 and 61% (standard / luxury) or 58% (premium / platinum)

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    jddssc121jddssc121 Member Posts: 151
    also any rebates?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    jddssc121 said:

    also any rebates?

    None that I see. Cadillac is having no problem moving every Escalade that they build.

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    jddssc121jddssc121 Member Posts: 151
    Thanks. I just think i found a $2K conquest on their website (or whatever they call it) for owners of a competitive vehicle. But can't find details about what qualifies.

    http://www.cadillac.com/current-offers.html?x-zipcode=89101
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    jddssc121 said:

    Thanks. I just think i found a $2K conquest on their website (or whatever they call it) for owners of a competitive vehicle. But can't find details about what qualifies.

    http://www.cadillac.com/current-offers.html?x-zipcode=89101

    Proof that you have a 1999 or newer non-GM vehicle in the household.

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    sonnyrphsonnyrph Member Posts: 2
    2016 ESV, 39months, 15k miles, $79k MSRP plus rear screen installed negotiated. $869/month michigan zero down, good, great or average deal? thank you much
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    sonnyrph said:

    2016 ESV, 39months, 15k miles, $79k MSRP plus rear screen installed negotiated. $869/month michigan zero down, good, great or average deal? thank you much

    Don't know; what is the adjusted cap cost?

    What trim level is this?

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    spyderson7spyderson7 Member Posts: 22
    edited June 2016
    Looking for Residual and MF on 2016 AWD Luxury either 36/30k or 39/32.5k
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319

    Looking for Residual and MF on 2016 AWD Luxury either 36/30k or 39/32.5k

    .00144 and 64% (36/10) or 62% (39/10)

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    jddssc121jddssc121 Member Posts: 151
    Michaell said:

    jddssc121 said:

    Can you share the breakdown for the Escalade (not ESV) for 36/15? Not sure if the residual changes based on trim level, but if it does, can you provide all of them?

    .00144 and 61% (standard / luxury) or 58% (premium / platinum)
    Did july #'s change?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    jddssc121 said:

    Michaell said:

    jddssc121 said:

    Can you share the breakdown for the Escalade (not ESV) for 36/15? Not sure if the residual changes based on trim level, but if it does, can you provide all of them?

    .00144 and 61% (standard / luxury) or 58% (premium / platinum)
    Did july #'s change?
    We don't have the July info, yet. Probably next week.

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    cutch69cutch69 Member Posts: 1
    Going to Pick up today 2016 Escalade 4x4 Lux MSRP 83295
    Neg Price 75893
    Rebates 3750
    Total Price 72143
    MF .00159
    RES 63%
    39/12
    812 Month Payment
    Michigan Sales tax 6%
    800 Due at closing.
    Is this good
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    cutch69 said:

    Going to Pick up today 2016 Escalade 4x4 Lux MSRP 83295
    Neg Price 75893
    Rebates 3750
    Total Price 72143
    MF .00159
    RES 63%
    39/12
    812 Month Payment
    Michigan Sales tax 6%
    800 Due at closing.
    Is this good

    What is the adjusted cap cost? I get $745/mo with your numbers - I'm guess some fees are being added in to your "total price" amount.

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    mjmjmjmjmjmjmjmj Member Posts: 2
    Anyone have Julys numbers yet? Also, what rebates/incentives are available this month?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    mjmjmjmj said:

    Anyone have Julys numbers yet? Also, what rebates/incentives are available this month?

    We do
    36/15

    .00144 MF
    Residual varies between 56% and 63%, depending on packages and 2WD/4WD.

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    mjmjmjmjmjmjmjmj Member Posts: 2
    What would we look like on a 2wd, luxury for a 36 and 39mos. 15k miles and 12k miles.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    mjmjmjmj said:

    What would we look like on a 2wd, luxury for a 36 and 39mos. 15k miles and 12k miles.

    Hmm, we don't have trim levels in our docs; just option codes.

    1SA - 63%
    1SB - 60%
    1SC - 58%
    1SD - 56%

    All the above are for 36/15; add 2% for 12K

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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    Michaell said:

    mjmjmjmj said:

    What would we look like on a 2wd, luxury for a 36 and 39mos. 15k miles and 12k miles.

    Hmm, we don't have trim levels in our docs; just option codes.

    1SA - 63%
    1SB - 60%
    1SC - 58%
    1SD - 56%

    All the above are for 36/15; add 2% for 12K
    For 39 months, MF is .00151, and subtract 1% from the residual values

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    yoonsteryoonster Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2016
    Hello michaell
    is this a good deal??? what do you think???

    2016 escalade esv 2wd luxury 36m/12000miles
    msrp- 81,040
    neg price 76500- gross capitalized cost (76500+895(xs wear and tear)+595(acquisition fee)= total 77990)
    Rebate 1500
    MF .00144
    RES 62%
    added excess wear and tear program; quoting me @895- btw is this negotiable???
    total initial payment 3245.48-1500(rebate)= 1851.52 due @ signing
    California 9%
    Month Payment 993.57
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    Payment looks about right. Don't know if the wear and tear is negotiable, but I wouldn't be likely to add $25/mo. to my lease payment for it. (Of course, at this price level, it doesn't seem so bad).

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    drthay123drthay123 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2016
    Quoted today:
    2016 Cadillac Escalade ESC AWD Luxury
    Term 39mo/12k miles
    MSRP 82190
    Discount 3240
    Net Selling 78950
    Net Cap 74586
    Residual 63% (51780)
    Acq Fee 595
    Down Payment 4959
    Payment 775.59 plus 90 taxes (WA) 865.59

    1st time lease, does this seem inline?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    drthay123 said:

    Quoted today:
    2016 Cadillac Escalade ESC AWD Luxury
    Term 39mo/12k miles
    MSRP 82190
    Discount 3240
    Net Selling 78950
    Net Cap 74586
    Residual 63% (51780)
    Acq Fee 595
    Down Payment 4959
    Payment 775.59 plus 90 taxes (WA) 865.59

    1st time lease, does this seem inline?

    The math is definitely correct.

    Any reason you want to put so much upfront?

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    drthay123drthay123 Member Posts: 2
    It's the first go around, what do you suggest.  Like I said this is a first time lease and for a business.  
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    drthay123 said:

    It's the first go around, what do you suggest.  Like I said this is a first time lease and for a business.  

    Just the fees and first payment.

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    jnhoustonjnhouston Member Posts: 2
    Hello .... this is 1st time try to lease a vehicle

    2016 Escalade luxury collection
    MSRP : 81380
    Out of the door Price is : 77995
    lease 39/12000
    no down
    $1025 per month
    is it a good deal or not ...
    Thanks for your help
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    jnhouston said:

    Hello .... this is 1st time try to lease a vehicle

    2016 Escalade luxury collection
    MSRP : 81380
    Out of the door Price is : 77995
    lease 39/12000
    no down
    $1025 per month
    is it a good deal or not ...
    Thanks for your help

    MF is .00144 for all Escalades, this month.

    Is this 2WD or 4WD?

    Do you happen to know the option package number for the Luxury trim? 1SA, 1SB, 1SC or 1SD?

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    jnhoustonjnhouston Member Posts: 2
    Michaell said:

    jnhouston said:

    Hello .... this is 1st time try to lease a vehicle

    2016 Escalade luxury collection
    MSRP : 81380
    Out of the door Price is : 77995
    lease 39/12000
    no down
    $1025 per month
    is it a good deal or not ...
    Thanks for your help

    MF is .00144 for all Escalades, this month.

    Is this 2WD or 4WD?

    Do you happen to know the option package number for the Luxury trim? 1SA, 1SB, 1SC or 1SD?
    This is 2wd
    option is 1sb
    has 2 dvd in the headrest

    Thanks for your reply
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    jnhouston said:

    Michaell said:

    jnhouston said:

    Hello .... this is 1st time try to lease a vehicle

    2016 Escalade luxury collection
    MSRP : 81380
    Out of the door Price is : 77995
    lease 39/12000
    no down
    $1025 per month
    is it a good deal or not ...
    Thanks for your help

    MF is .00144 for all Escalades, this month.

    Is this 2WD or 4WD?

    Do you happen to know the option package number for the Luxury trim? 1SA, 1SB, 1SC or 1SD?
    This is 2wd
    option is 1sb
    has 2 dvd in the headrest

    Thanks for your reply
    Thanks for the information.

    The 39/12 residual for 2WD 1SB is 61%

    Using your prices, I get a payment of $971/mo plus tax.

    Your quote looks to be in the ballpark, based on the tax rate.

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    drewtabdrewtab Member Posts: 22
    2016 luxury, what is money factor and residual for 39 months? 62% and .00151? Looking to lease $75k , only first month and tag down, $850 month tax in florida? good deal?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    drewtab said:

    2016 luxury, what is money factor and residual for 39 months? 62% and .00151? Looking to lease $75k , only first month and tag down, $850 month tax in florida? good deal?

    2WD or 4WD?

    .00151 MF is correct.

    What mileage allowance?

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    drewtabdrewtab Member Posts: 22
    10k miles per year
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    drewtab said:

    10k miles per year

    You'd have to be around $71K cap cost to get that payment. Looks fair.

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    siamac1siamac1 Member Posts: 3
    Does anyone know the numbers for September? Also, how does the trim correlate with the package #? Is the standard 1sa, the luxury 1sb, etc?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    siamac1 said:

    Does anyone know the numbers for September? Also, how does the trim correlate with the package #? Is the standard 1sa, the luxury 1sb, etc?

    2WD or 4WD?

    Which package?

    Term?

    Mileage?

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    siamac1siamac1 Member Posts: 3
    Let's say 1sb, 36 months with 10,000 per month 2wd/4wd. Also, any incentives? 

    Thank you so much 
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    siamac1siamac1 Member Posts: 3
    actually forget about the 4wd. Can you please give numbers for 36 month and 48 month, 2wd 1sb 10,000 miles?

    Thanks
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319
    siamac1 said:

    actually forget about the 4wd. Can you please give numbers for 36 month and 48 month, 2wd 1sb 10,000 miles?

    Thanks

    36/10 - .00141 and 63%
    48/10 - .00168 and 54%

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    griswold88griswold88 Member Posts: 7
    Michaell,

    What is the residual difference for a '16 ESV Luxury 2wd vs 4wd, 36/10 or 39/10?

    Does the residual drop from the luxury to the premium? Thanks!!
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228
    edited October 2016

    Michaell,

    What is the residual difference for a '16 ESV Luxury 2wd vs 4wd, 36/10 or 39/10?

    Does the residual drop from the luxury to the premium? Thanks!!

    .00146 MF for all.
    36/10
    2WD Luxury 63% residual
    2WD Premium 61%
    4WD Luxury 65%
    4WD Premium 62%

    Subtract 2% from any residual for 39/10.

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    dmilbydmilby Member Posts: 1
    Is residual based on purchase price or MSRP of the vehicle? For example, if sticker is $81k and purchase price is $74k, is the 63% residual $51k or $46k
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    dmilby said:

    Is residual based on purchase price or MSRP of the vehicle? For example, if sticker is $81k and purchase price is $74k, is the 63% residual $51k or $46k

    Residual percentage is applied to the full MSRP.

    The bottom line on the Monroney sticker.

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    Raja GuptaRaja Gupta Member Posts: 13
    edited October 2016
    Hey guys - would love to get your opinions on this deal.

    It is a 2016 Escalade Luxury 2WD. It is a "loaner" vehicle so has ~5K miles on it.

    The MSRP is listed at 79,635 and the residual is 61% minus $841 for the mileage on it.

    The sales price they are giving me is 70,635 + 595 ACQ fee + ~$5000 in taxes, making the total cap cost, 76,253. Money Factor is .001833 on a 39 month and 10K miles per year. The quote document is attached to the post.

    What do you guys think?
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 241,319

    Hey guys - would love to get your opinions on this deal.

    It is a 2016 Escalade Luxury 2WD. It is a "loaner" vehicle so has ~5K miles on it.

    The MSRP is listed at 79,635 and the residual is 61% minus $841 for the mileage on it.

    The sales price they are giving me is 70,635 + 595 ACQ fee + ~$5000 in taxes, making the total cap cost, 76,253. Money Factor is .001833 on a 39 month and 10K miles per year. The quote document is attached to the post.

    What do you guys think?

    I'm just a few dollars off the dealer calculation.

    Where do you live that you pay taxes on the entire selling price?

    Can you confirm with the dealer that this is a GM Financial lease?

    I'm showing .00146 as the base MF for GM Financial; if this is marked up, it's costing you $45-50/mo on the payment.

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    Raja GuptaRaja Gupta Member Posts: 13
    Thanks for the quick response! I am in GA - they changed the laws a couple years ago and its a little convoluted in how they charge tax. I thought that the tax should only be on the lease payments, but am not 100% sure.

    I'll confirm the lease holder with the dealer, although on the doc, it does say "GMFINLEASE01" as the lease institution.

    Are the doc fees of ~$700 standard or is that high in your experience?
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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 237,228

    Thanks for the quick response! I am in GA - they changed the laws a couple years ago and its a little convoluted in how they charge tax. I thought that the tax should only be on the lease payments, but am not 100% sure.

    I'll confirm the lease holder with the dealer, although on the doc, it does say "GMFINLEASE01" as the lease institution.

    Are the doc fees of ~$700 standard or is that high in your experience?

    Yes.. GA charges tax on the full selling price.
    GA and FL also lead the nation in onerous doc fees (yay, we are #1!)

    That doesn't look like an amazing discount for an outgoing GM model, especially a service loaner. Couple that with a marked up money factor and big doc fee, and I'd push for a better deal.

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