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dino001 · April 2019

So apparently Elon thinks he can start sending out million robocars, many taxis next year. All of course without any legal framework, production capacity. Some blabla superchip and it's all done. If only I could sell my magic hands that way.

PF_Flyer · April 2019

ab348 said:
Looks like a software update for the forums got rolled out recently as there are new links at the top of the Bookmarks page. But the things that were broken in Firefox, anything that has a pulldown selection for the message composition box, are still broken. And if you use the back button from the bookmarks page after reading a board's messages, it still doesn't update the unread posts.

Nope, not an update, just a temporary glitch.

driver100 · April 2019

I feel confident those guys will solve the problem.....by the next century!

dino001 · April 2019

You should use LG. The customer service is legendary.

PF_Flyer · April 2019

As always, we appreciate the "extra eyes" you folks provide while poking around in the corners here!

tjc78 · April 2019

Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

dino001 said:
So apparently Elon thinks he can start sending out million robocars, many taxis next year. All of course without any legal framework, production capacity. Some blabla superchip and it's all done. If only I could sell my magic hands that way.

Tesla posted a $700 million loss for the 1st quarter of 2019. Maybe Musk needs to scale back his ambitions and concentrate on how to build a car.

stickguy · April 2019

Or make it up in volume.

graphicguy · April 2019

snakeweasel said:

graphicguy said:

I looked at a '75 Monza back in HS (maybe early college?) and took it to the family mechanic for a check over. No issues, but it was the V8, and he told me not to bring it back if it needed plugs. That was the model where you had to jack the engine up out of the motor mounts to get to the rear plugs. And in those days, they were not 100K Iraium tipped ones!

and I think a little rocker rust even though it was only about 4 years old, but hey, it was the 70's.

sharp car though. Like an exotic back then. bright silver hatch, V8, 4 speed. Sharp. Not sure exactly why I did not buy it. Might have been just to much money.
I actually bought a used Monday in high school.

I almost got one in high school too but I decided to splurge and I got myself a Tuesday as people tend to dislike Mondays.

LOL! Sometimes I don’t catch what autocorrect does to my posts! That said, reminds me of a remnant of my college days....

https://youtu.be/dplpWIpofHI

PF_Flyer · April 2019

tjc78 said:
Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!

Not only 90K posts, but closing in on a million views of the thread.

PF_Flyer · April 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:

dino001 said:
So apparently Elon thinks he can start sending out million robocars, many taxis next year. All of course without any legal framework, production capacity. Some blabla superchip and it's all done. If only I could sell my magic hands that way.
Tesla posted a $700 million loss for the 1st quarter of 2019. Maybe Musk needs to scale back his ambitions and concentrate on how to build a car.

Wouldn't you love to see the list of questions submitted that this tweet mentions

jmonroe1 · April 2019

PF_Flyer said:

tjc78 said:
Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!
Not only 90K posts, but closing in on a million views of the thread.

Sorry I couldn't have helped a little more.

jmonroe

ruking1 · April 2019

Mr_Shiftright said:

dino001 said:
So apparently Elon thinks he can start sending out million robocars, many taxis next year. All of course without any legal framework, production capacity. Some blabla superchip and it's all done. If only I could sell my magic hands that way.
Tesla posted a $700 million loss for the 1st quarter of 2019. Maybe Musk needs to scale back his ambitions and concentrate on how to build a car.

When I go to replace the MB GLK 250 BT, (2.1 L TT, compact CUV, target 200,000 miles (11 years) to (17 years) 300,000 miles) current candidates are V6: Lexus RX 350, RX 350 H, Toyota Highlander, Highlander H, 4 cylinder T, Lexus NX 300, NX300 H. Since 2004 (Prius) Hybrids have been proven good to great, over 16 MY’s., albeit 20% better mpg over like gasoline models. Almost none (gasoline/hybrid) overcomes the gasoline like model cost differential.

I do not think a Tesla will be on that list, at that time.

snakeweasel · April 2019

Well I got a call from the dealer about the ragtop. Seems like they have to replace a couple of the motors and switches for the top. Quoted cost is about a grand. They also gave me a laundry list of things that need to be done. Most of those I knew about and are minor nuances but one or two things that should be taken care of if I want the car to get to 200k miles. Total for everything is a little over 3 grand. This is to much to put into this car.

I figure my options are the following:

1. dont fix anything and keep the car for now. The amount I drive it I should get a year or two more out of it.

2. drop about a grand or so to get the few major things done and maybe extend the cars usage by a year or two over option 1.

3. Either one of the above options and get the top fixed too.

4. Get everything fixed and hope for the best.

I am leaning towards option 1 and keeping an eye open for a decent low mileage used car to replace this car.

Overall I cannot complain to much, I bought it over 10 years ago as a one year old ex rental with 18k on the clock for $15k. I got my monies worth out of it and i will still be driving it some more.

28firefighter · April 2019

Don't fix anything. Not worth it unless you're planning to keep it forever.

sda · April 2019

If you’re handy, price out the parts for the top (Rock Auto, EBay or the like) and fix it yourself. Otherwise, just drive it.

ruking1 · April 2019

Yes, in someways, the convertible top can be considered a cosmetic issue. That is especially true if it still is accomplishing it’s umbrella function.

So one real ? Who are the potential buyers in app a yrs’ time +?

A (reasonable, convertible fan) buyer would take that car for $’s estimates minus - that from the then current asking price/FMV.

If the car has like say a Toyota Land Cruiser following, prices might be higher.

tjc78 · April 2019

Just drive it until something major goes at this point.

snakeweasel · April 2019

28firefighter said:

Don't fix anything. Not worth it unless you're planning to keep it forever.

That's my thought but my wife has a say in this, we are going to discuss this tonight.

explorerx4 · April 2019

I would get the top fixed. If they do that right, maybe consider fixing some of the other things.
That way you still have the other 2k to use for the next vehicle.
My goal is to put the top down when I put road insurance on the car and keep it down until it's time to put it away in the fall. Never had it quite work out 100%.

driver100 · April 2019

jmonroe1 said:

PF_Flyer said:

tjc78 said:
Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!
Not only 90K posts, but closing in on a million views of the thread.

Sorry I couldn't have helped a little more.

jmonroe

don't worry, you contributed greatly to the total number of words posted on this thread - probably approaching a few billion with your help.

driver100 · April 2019

snakeweasel said:
Well I got a call from the dealer about the ragtop. Seems like they have to replace a couple of the motors and switches for the top. Quoted cost is about a grand. They also gave me a laundry list of things that need to be done. Most of those I knew about and are minor nuances but one or two things that should be taken care of if I want the car to get to 200k miles. Total for everything is a little over 3 grand. This is to much to put into this car.

I figure my options are the following:

1. dont fix anything and keep the car for now. The amount I drive it I should get a year or two more out of it.

2. drop about a grand or so to get the few major things done and maybe extend the cars usage by a year or two over option 1.

3. Either one of the above options and get the top fixed too.

4. Get everything fixed and hope for the best.

I am leaning towards option 1 and keeping an eye open for a decent low mileage used car to replace this car.

Overall I cannot complain to much, I bought it over 10 years ago as a one year old ex rental with 18k on the clock for $15k. I got my monies worth out of it and i will still be driving it some more.

see, should have traded it in last month before the problem developed. That is the downside of holding on. It's like a stock, you have to sell your winners while they are ahead.

I think option 1 makes the most sense at this point.

jmonroe1 · April 2019

snakeweasel said:

28firefighter said:

Don't fix anything. Not worth it unless you're planning to keep it forever.

That's my thought but my wife has a say in this, we are going to discuss this tonight.

It all depends on how much you value that hair blower. You didn't say what those major things are that need to be addressed. In the end I wouldn't dump too much money into a 10 year old car. As for discussing this with your wife, you gotta man up about this.

jmonroe

NoMoreToyotas · April 2019

I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

jmonroe1 · April 2019

NoMoreToyotas said:
I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

As has been said, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". In your case substitute ugly. Therefore, how much ugly does it take to turn you off Toyota reliability?

jmonroe

ruking1 · April 2019

NoMoreToyotas said:
I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

If (Toyota’s “bad” ) looks are a top priority, what brands are your next priorities?

jipster · April 2019

It's over.... it's finally over!

The deal is done. I bought the Mercury Milan this morning. The son is off driving it to his girlfriend's house now. Son seemed really impressed with how nice the car looked, and the features it had. I ran it thru a wash and wax before he came home from school. I cleaned the interior and engine compartment fairly well. Probably could use a good wax and buff, get some light scratches and scuff marks out.

No problem at the county clerks office. Clerk asked the seller what the.purchase price was. He gave her the correct amount. The vehicle was taxed using that amount. Now Snakie can't report me to the cops! I drove the seller home. He left about half a tank of gas in the car. Yippee! He also left some cleaning supplies,.a AAA emergency road kit, and an ice scraper and brush for me.

I'm probably gonna need a car for MYSELF in a year or two, so I'll take a short break (a week), then start hitting those Craigslist ads again.

explorerx4 · April 2019

@jipster,
Congrats to you and your son(with help from your wife). Good buff and wax sounds like a good job for your son.

28firefighter · April 2019

Congrats, @jipster. Sounds like you made out just fine.

Reminding me that I'm due for registration renewal on the Viggen...

jmonroe1 · April 2019

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

PF_Flyer said:

tjc78 said:
Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!
Not only 90K posts, but closing in on a million views of the thread.

Sorry I couldn't have helped a little more.

jmonroe
don't worry, you contributed greatly to the total number of words posted on this thread - probably approaching a few billion with your help.

Yeah, I guess you're right. I shouldn't have been so hard on myself.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · April 2019

jipster said:
It's over.... it's finally over!

The deal is done. I bought the Mercury Milan this morning. The son is off driving it to his girlfriend's house now. Son seemed really impressed with how nice the car looked, and the features it had. I ran it thru a wash and wax before he came home from school. I cleaned the interior and engine compartment fairly well. Probably could use a good wax and buff, get some light scratches and scuff marks out.

No problem at the county clerks office. Clerk asked the seller what the.purchase price was. He gave her the correct amount. The vehicle was taxed using that amount. Now Snakie can't report me to the cops! I drove the seller home. He left about half a tank of gas in the car. Yippee! He also left some cleaning supplies,.a AAA emergency road kit, and an ice scraper and brush for me.

I'm probably gonna need a car for MYSELF in a year or two, so I'll take a short break (a week), then start hitting those Craigslist ads again.

Congrats on not letting this one get away BUT your honesty disappoints me. Like the they say, "if you ain't cheating you ain't trying". Looks like you only got the job half done BUT you're teaching your son a good lesson, I guess.

Give us some updates in a month or two.

jmonroe

explorerx4 · April 2019

@jipster,
If your next vehicle search can stretch out to 3 years or so, it can take me into retirement.

Mr_Shiftright · April 2019

28firefighter said:
Don't fix anything. Not worth it unless you're planning to keep it forever.

Agreed. If he goes all in for $3K, that's more than the entire car is worth right now. Maybe I'd do anything safety related if that's in the mix.

ab348 · April 2019

Well done, @jipster . Now scout out some wrecking yards for the outside mirror assembly.

henryn · April 2019

It's a little hard to render an informed opinion on that old convertible without more information, what repairs have been recommended, the cost of each of those repairs, etc.

Depending on what is wrong with it, I would probably either leave it alone and drive it until the wheels fall off, or just get rid of it now.

driver100 · April 2019

Congratulations Jip....glad it worked out and the guy seemed pretty honest. I think you lucked out....might be pushing it to try to do another deal this way.

driver100 · April 2019

NoMoreToyotas said:
I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

NoMore, we have talked about the way Toyotas aren't looking that perdy these days, and we have also basically agreed that they are rather boring to drive. What else is on your list so we can run that down too......

andres3 · April 2019

https://www.expertinsurancereviews.com/insurance-company-reviews/bristol-west/

Another new fan of the so-called Insurance company Bristol West!!!! New review dated 4/22/19.

This kind of evil in the world existing for at least the last 16-17 years is scary. If this company can survive and thrive; something is wrong with the so-called regulators. I'd fire every single person at the Dept. of Insurance to start!

abacomike · April 2019

NoMoreToyotas said:

I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

Alike? Is that surprising? Look at Mercedes, Lincoln, BMW, Lexus, Audi, to name a few. They all look alike nowadays. I still have difficulty telling the difference between a C and E Class Mercedes; or between a GS350 and ES350 or LS500 Lexus; or between an A4, A5 or A6 Audi, etc.

But I do like the Toyota Avalon’s look.

And welcome to the forum!

abacomike · April 2019

@jipster:

Great job jipster. Your son should be proud!

abacomike · April 2019

I haven’t had the opportunity to post another “abacomike” tragedy situation in a very long time. Well, it happened again!

I was food shopping this morning and an old lady was coming down an aisle not looking out for other shoppers and crashed right into me jamming my right arm between the front of her cart and the rear of my cart. Normally, this would not be a catastrophe - but you forget this is sbacomike - tragedy and catastrophe are my two middle names.

Most of you know I take a blood thinner due to a DVT. Well, the skin on my arm tore and I started bleeding like a sieve. They called the paramedics because we couldn’t get the bleeding to stop.

They put a pressure bandage on my arm and I went to the emergency room at the local hospital. The doctor put 7 stitches in my arm, bandaged my arm, and I took a cab back to the parking lot to get my car. The stitches come out in 7 days.

If not for the blood thinners I take, it would not have been as serious.

pensfan83 · April 2019

I refuse to ever go grocery shopping in Florida.

oldfarmer50 · April 2019

tjc78 said:
Wow this is an active thread! 3000 pages @30/ pages , 90,000 posts!

The wit and wisdom of this group has become legendary. Everybody wants in.

oldfarmer50 · April 2019

NoMoreToyotas said:
I'm new here. I became a member just to get opinions. I had to find out if anybody else thinks the 2019 Toyota models are all UGLY! I wanted to get another Toyota after owning an Avalon & Scion XB, but can't bring myself to buy one of the ugly 2019 models. Such a shame. All models seem to look alike, too. Terrible!

Park one next to a Kia Soul and it’ll change your mind.

cdnpinhead · April 2019

There's a radio show I listen to (via podcast) from CA that has a segment called "Florida or anywhere else." The upshot is that the host reads out the headline and the call-in contestant gets to guess whether the story is from FL or anywhere else on earth. At least half of them are from Florida.

Go figure.

henryn · April 2019

I feel for you, Mike. My skin has gotten so much thinner as I age. I work on a car, rebuild a fence, play with my dogs -- bingo, the skin is scratched or broken and bleeds like a stuck pig. The one a day aspirin also contributes to that. But luckily for me, I can stop any bleeding with pressure for a few minutes. At least so far, knock on wood, cross fingers, ...

ruking1 · April 2019

abacomike said:
I haven’t had the opportunity to post another “abacomike” tragedy situation in a very long time. Well, it happened again!

I was food shopping this morning and an old lady was coming down an aisle not looking out for other shoppers and crashed right into me jamming my right arm between the front of her cart and the rear of my cart. Normally, this would not be a catastrophe - but you forget this is sbacomike - tragedy and catastrophe are my two middle names.

Most of you know I take a blood thinner due to a DVT. Well, the skin on my arm tore and I started bleeding like a sieve. They called the paramedics because we couldn’t get the bleeding to stop.

They put a pressure bandage on my arm and I went to the emergency room at the local hospital. The doctor put 7 stitches in my arm, bandaged my arm, and I took a cab back to the parking lot to get my car. The stitches come out in 7 days.

If not for the blood thinners I take, it would not have been as serious.

Here’s hoping you heal well & quickly.

oldfarmer50 · April 2019

snakeweasel said:
Well I got a call from the dealer about the ragtop. Seems like they have to replace a couple of the motors and switches for the top. Quoted cost is about a grand. They also gave me a laundry list of things that need to be done. Most of those I knew about and are minor nuances but one or two things that should be taken care of if I want the car to get to 200k miles. Total for everything is a little over 3 grand. This is to much to put into this car.

I figure my options are the following:

1. dont fix anything and keep the car for now. The amount I drive it I should get a year or two more out of it.

2. drop about a grand or so to get the few major things done and maybe extend the cars usage by a year or two over option 1.

3. Either one of the above options and get the top fixed too.

4. Get everything fixed and hope for the best.

I am leaning towards option 1 and keeping an eye open for a decent low mileage used car to replace this car.

Overall I cannot complain to much, I bought it over 10 years ago as a one year old ex rental with 18k on the clock for $15k. I got my monies worth out of it and i will still be driving it some more.

Do you still get use out of it as a drop top? If so just have them disconnect the motor mechanism and make it a manual drop top. Fix any safety related items and forget the rest. What’s the KBB and Edmunds values? You can get a 2000 model with 50% less mileage for a few thousand and a Mitsu V6 that might go 200,000.

I forget where you’re located but here’s one from my area.

https://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/cto/d/valley-stream-2000-chrysler-sebring/6872984649.html

henryn · April 2019

@snakeweasel is in Chicago, as I recall. That Sebring convertible sounds a little too good to be true, at least for the asking price of $2k.

ruking1 · April 2019

henryn said:
I feel for you, Mike. My skin has gotten so much thinner as I age. I work on a car, rebuild a fence, play with my dogs -- bingo, the skin is scratched or broken and bleeds like a stuck pig. The one a day aspirin also contributes to that. But luckily for me, I can stop any bleeding with pressure for a few minutes. At least so far, knock on wood, cross fingers, ...

I’m hoping that a lot of people do NOT have to take “an aspirin a day or an aspirin substitute (Tylenol, etc.) a day”. IF one does it, it might not be a bad idea to consult one’s doctor, as either &/or both can adversely effect the liver, up to & including unforeseen death. The practical aspect are blood tests @ intervals.

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