The reason that 1990 4-cylinder Mustang has 34K miles is because it is a 4-cylinder Mustang. I drove one once, what a nasty car, underpowered and noisy.
That '66 VIP is really interesting but the seller's claim it is like brand new is undermined by the picture with the headliner torn and hanging down into the pic. Ooops.
I wonder what the Taurus seller thinks "tubes" are.
For the VIP, also the paint condition, engine bay that looks like the car was parked underwater, and interior wear. Most dubious super low mileage claim I have seen in a long time.
Tubes might = hoses, could be a terminology or even ESL issue. My mom's 93 Taurus had the same wheels, a little nostalgia (car didn't make it to 100K, head gasket went on the 3.8 of course, and she walked away - her last domestic car as she is now in the Team Toyota cult).
lots of money for a Fox Mustang in pieces. Is an ex-cop car really worth a premium?
and I love that Rabbit convertible. at that price, if as described mechanically and not rusty, I would be all over that. even in triple black! Can always get seat covers. Too bad it is 4,000 miles away. though of course, if on this coast, the odds are heavy it would be a rust bucket.
I really like the Previa van (and the JDM RHD unit as well, save for the ridiculous price). My father came within a hair's breadth of getting one of those (1992 MY), but ended up with a second Camry instead.
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I found this sad pic on a fintail group - one less survivor thanks to a distracted driver (who will receive a slap on the wrist, if that):
And someone in Spain found a cache of new old stock aftermarket/accessory rear window blinds. I know these were popular in Oz, and I kind of like them:
And someone in Spain found a cache of new old stock aftermarket/accessory rear window blinds. I know these were popular in Oz, and I kind of like them:
The Comet isn't a bad car but an unfortunate paint choice for that interior, and the wheels need to go. Not so sure how easy it is to replace that rear window, you might need to remove/replace the top.
I like that '89 C4 and the price seems very reasonable.
The '56 Plymouth is pretty clapped-out looking but maybe the price lets a devotee spruce it up enough to have a unique car to take to events.
That S500 (I think that was the model) seems really expensive at $12,500 asking considering everything identified on the PPI. I wouldn't mind taking something like that on, but would have to be a vastly lower level of entry.
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That car is somewhat rare. The 90s era 500E/E500 were a limited run of V8 E-class built in conjunction with Porsche. They were quite expensive when new (maybe 80K+ at the time) and were the hottest E available. For MY 2003, MB brought back the E500 moniker, this time for the normal V8 E-class, nothing specially tuned or limited about it.
Good ones bring 25K (and low milers more), but this one has many thousands worth of needs, and would be a gamble.
That S500 (I think that was the model) seems really expensive at $12,500 asking considering everything identified on the PPI. I wouldn't mind taking something like that on, but would have to be a vastly lower level of entry.
Had the old car out today, no issues, no gratuitous pic as I am not hosting my own, and we still can't upload. Car ran fine with no issues, got a wave and plenty of looks (it seems people either wave or smile, stare like the car is a spaceship, or ignore it). A week from tomorrow the car will be in for its annual service and checkup at a very honest indy shop, where I set a budget and say "do what you can do". It always comes in under budget, as I think many of the needs are more than my budget. But I am not aiming for perfection, rather, to keep it roadworthy and relatively safe to drive. Turn signals are working fine now so I don't have to bring that up. I am hearing a faint squeak - maybe a wheel bearing, shocks are clunky on some roads, been a few years since fluids were changed, maybe one of them will get it.
I remember the intermittent wiper accessory. I installed one similar on my Sunbird. It worked pretty well. One funny thing with it, the wipers did two swipes instead of a single swipe in between intervals. Still better than having them on constantly or frequently having to do manual on/off because having them on low was too fast.
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I remember the intermittent wiper accessory. I installed one similar on my Sunbird. It worked pretty well. One funny thing with it, the wipers did two swipes instead of a single swipe in between intervals. Still better than having them on constantly or frequently having to do manual on/off because having them on low was too fast.
I was going to post nearly the same thing! My father installed one on his '79 F150, and it worked great. When I am manually cycling them on/off in my old rigs, I often think about installing something like that until I snap back to reality and remember that, 1. I rarely use the old rigs, and 2., I managed just fine even when I drove them as dailies.
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I prefer the later run Allante, nicer looking trim and a better steering wheel. Once a Northstar is repaired, is it good, or will it fail again?
No doubt one will never get their money back out of those Fomoco cars. They need to be half price.
Here's what the SLC looked like 10+ years ago - a lot shinier. I wonder if the paint is just dull, or if it really has bad clearcoat. I know MB had clearcoat then, but I don't know if this color had it (I think it did though, I suspect it was metallic vs non-metallic). I suppose re-spraying it with clear wouldn't be too big a job - certainly not a case where you'd repaint the car, as a quality job would easily exceed the value of the car.
I think the interior would come back to life with a detail and maybe seat cushions - MB seat stuffing of that era collapses over time, and apparently isn't a huge job to replace. I'd also want an original radio, and the rear deck with speakers cut in bugs me, but that could be fixed. With the needs, I'd want to be in closer to 5K - it's still a thirsty barge with parts that aren't cheap, but the small bumpers and not too restrictive emissions junk save it.
Unless drum brakes are perfectly adjusted, they can be really scary. I remember those in my 62 Galaxie would throw the car into another lane during hard braking if you weren’t careful. A lot of corrective steering and a bit of luck required. The power brakes in a 65 Cutlass I had were quick to fade and then the effort to get the thing to stop became very high, quite the opposite of the light touch normally needed to stop in less demanding situations. It would lock the left rear tire and cause the car to swerve. Drum brakes, not a fan.
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I did a little more work on the Econoline this weekend with my son.
He spent the last week reworking the wiring I installed about 25 years ago for a stereo system. I had about a week to get it working the first time around (including a bunch of other prep work before heading to Alaska in 1995), so it was somewhat rudimentary, with improper wire choices, so it did not stand the test of time well. He proudly lit it up last night and proclaimed, "Dad, this is the best stereo system we have." I challenged him with that claim citing the Q7, and he said, "well, it might be a tie over all, but this one has better base." Hahaha
Afterward, we pulled the front (grille) off the van to access the battery area, and I removed the extremely rusty tray there to replace with a plastic unit that I just bolted into the original holder arms. Much more secure now. We also replaced the flasher unit, which now works perfectly with the emergency flashers, but is inoperative with blinkers... ? I hate electrical gremlins.
Finally, I pulled the engine housing off to adjust the idle speed, and it was rather fortuitous because it turns out that a small rubber fuel line, which is hidden under the air housing, was leaking! Not a little, either. We swapped that out, no more leak, and now it is ready to go for another driving ed night for my son.
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Interesting (there are likely better words) that the 450SLC only covered 500 miles in the last 10 years. I wonder what the seller would say to a $5K offer.
We also replaced the flasher unit, which now works perfectly with the emergency flashers, but is inoperative with blinkers... ? I hate electrical gremlins.
Fords may very well be different, but I know on the Cutlass, there are two different flasher units, one for blinkers and one for 4-ways. I believe they are wired so that the current travels through the 4-way first, so that the blinkers do not operate if the 4-ways are activated. Sure you have the correct flasher?
We also replaced the flasher unit, which now works perfectly with the emergency flashers, but is inoperative with blinkers... ? I hate electrical gremlins.
Fords may very well be different, but I know on the Cutlass, there are two different flasher units, one for blinkers and one for 4-ways. I believe they are wired so that the current travels through the 4-way first, so that the blinkers do not operate if the 4-ways are activated. Sure you have the correct flasher?
It is possible I do not. I have never pulled it apart before. On my '69 C20 pickup, there is one flasher unit for all of the above. The emergency flashers work PERFECTLY though, which I cannot say has ever been the case before, so I'll have my son snoop around under there to see if he can find a twin flasher unit that might be the culprit. Thanks for the suggestion.
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This is likely unique to GM cars of the Cutlass vintage, but I had a difficult time a few years ago when my blinkers began acting up. The flasher unit that plugged into the fuse box area which I assumed was the culprit was in fact the one for the 4-ways. The blinker flasher was tucked up under the dash and just sort of hung from a part of the wiring harness.
A very relaxed car that'll never see more than 15 mpg probably became less than endearing to the owner, unless he was really into it - and with those miles, probably not. The car brought $6K or $6500 at that auction, IIRC - and it was cleaner then.
I'd go no more than 5K all-in, too - after taxes etc. Figure maybe $2500 for a coat of clear and interior renovation, along with maybe a little towards tires or the major service I suspect it needs. So you'd be in for say $8K, and you'd have to be very patient to recoup that at selling time, unless the market changes a lot. It's a dangerous game with something like that, unless you really love it and don't care about a loss. I do have to say I enjoy the color combo on that car, and the general 70s chic style, but not enough to buy one unless it was really beautiful and really a bargain.
Interesting (there are likely better words) that the 450SLC only covered 500 miles in the last 10 years. I wonder what the seller would say to a $5K offer.
Were flashers/hazard lights something that came with the 1968 safety regs? Fintail doesn't have them. I'm just happy the turn signals came back to life, hold my breath and knock on wood and hope they keep working.
Thinking of drum brakes, I am sure my dad's 60 Ford had them, I can't remember if the 66 Galaxie or 68 Fairlane had front discs or not. Funny, as my dad always did his own brake jobs on old or modern cars, I think he kind of enjoyed it.
Were flashers/hazard lights something that came with the 1968 safety regs? Fintail doesn't have them. I'm just happy the turn signals came back to life, hold my breath and knock on wood and hope they keep working.
Thinking of drum brakes, I am sure my dad's 60 Ford had them, I can't remember if the 66 Galaxie or 68 Fairlane had front discs or not. Funny, as my dad always did his own brake jobs on old or modern cars, I think he kind of enjoyed it.
4-ways were required in the 1967 model year as part of the first wave of federally mandated safety regs I believe.
The Cutlass has 4-wheel drums and they are serviceable but not great.
GM introduced the collapsible steering column in 67. I think shoulder belts and side markers became required in 68, and in 69, locking steering column and headrests. GM introduced door side beams on their full size cars in 69.
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The collapsible steering column was in that first wave of federal mandates. You might recall that Ford was unable to design a workable one that first year and so they went with the "flowerpot" deep-dish steering wheel for 1967 models.
I wonder what engine is in that 67 Ford with a 3 speed. I recall the wheel in the 68 Fairlane was a two spoke with a thick horizontal bar and a lower horn ring.
Fintail has a locking steering wheel and I am sure it is collapsible. No shoulder belts, but there are mounting points hidden under the B-pillar vinyl trim (you'd have to cut it). Ahead of its time a little, I guess.
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I'll buy the Grabber Blue version and save a bundle. Wait, what?
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The repaint will cost more than the car. Any deferred maintenance will be frosting on the cake.
I'll sell mine for half of that and count myself lucky.
Rare Fox, dumb listing price, proud asking price
Flippers flippers everywhere
Could be OK, lots of style for the dough
Something basket
High mileage droptop
Rare 140
Lots of looks for the money
When the brand had more relevance
Ideal configuration
Great color combo, too bad about the issues
Picture it: high school parking lot, 1993
These must cost nothing at home
Game show spec preservation special
Low mileage claim
New Tubes
End of an era
Sharky
Pretty, seems reasonable
That '66 VIP is really interesting but the seller's claim it is like brand new is undermined by the picture with the headliner torn and hanging down into the pic. Ooops.
I wonder what the Taurus seller thinks "tubes" are.
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Tubes might = hoses, could be a terminology or even ESL issue. My mom's 93 Taurus had the same wheels, a little nostalgia (car didn't make it to 100K, head gasket went on the 3.8 of course, and she walked away - her last domestic car as she is now in the Team Toyota cult).
and I love that Rabbit convertible. at that price, if as described mechanically and not rusty, I would be all over that. even in triple black! Can always get seat covers. Too bad it is 4,000 miles away. though of course, if on this coast, the odds are heavy it would be a rust bucket.
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Thanks for posting these, great lunchtime diversion from the office (while the emails pile up!)
I'm sure our networking team is like who is looking at CL ads from 3000 miles away, lol
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I like these post war Packards but that color I am not so sure it was a factoty color. Looks loke that turquoise GM used on many of their cars in the late 80's early 90's
And someone in Spain found a cache of new old stock aftermarket/accessory rear window blinds. I know these were popular in Oz, and I kind of like them:
I think I can get a set for around $150.
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The sky is the limit?
Rare, you could do worse
Good luck with sale
Gotta sit in the back
Apocalyptic
Driver cat, I suspect the 1982 price relative to current price is similar to local real estate
Nobody likes the C4 it seems
Neat survivor from optimistic flipper
Seldom seen so cheap...ah, wiring harness
Rare bird
Looks pretty clean for a car that usually had a filthy late life here
I had one of these once, cool car, but the market is nowhere near there yet
Another one usually looking clapped out
Andre-mobile
No, that's the Buick
Color suits it
Another cheap C4 with funny/dopey pic
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I like that '89 C4 and the price seems very reasonable.
The '56 Plymouth is pretty clapped-out looking but maybe the price lets a devotee spruce it up enough to have a unique car to take to events.
That poor Olds wagon...
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Good ones bring 25K (and low milers more), but this one has many thousands worth of needs, and would be a gamble.
Not many around
All it needs is jorts, a tucked in t-shirt, and white sneakers
Cool truck, hot price, gack those seat covers
Surprised it isn't more, given the cult
Unusual JDM
Reverse slant
And another
Heavy duty
Seldom seen anymore
Kind of unloved
Good preservation, but for a price
Hey look it's that green SLC I drooled over 10 years ago, looking at a little faded
Normal price 500E, nice hose repair
I saw one of these on The Price Is Right last night, original price was 31K
Once everywhere, now a unicorn
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I like that poor unloved Allante, which looks quite nice for the money. Of course the early Northstars are a time bomb waiting to go off.
I remember you posting about that green 450SLC. Price seems fair but it looks like it is right on the edge of needing both paint and interior.
The '70 Ford wagon and especially the two slant-back Mercs just seem like money pits.
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No doubt one will never get their money back out of those Fomoco cars. They need to be half price.
Here's what the SLC looked like 10+ years ago - a lot shinier. I wonder if the paint is just dull, or if it really has bad clearcoat. I know MB had clearcoat then, but I don't know if this color had it (I think it did though, I suspect it was metallic vs non-metallic). I suppose re-spraying it with clear wouldn't be too big a job - certainly not a case where you'd repaint the car, as a quality job would easily exceed the value of the car.
I think the interior would come back to life with a detail and maybe seat cushions - MB seat stuffing of that era collapses over time, and apparently isn't a huge job to replace. I'd also want an original radio, and the rear deck with speakers cut in bugs me, but that could be fixed. With the needs, I'd want to be in closer to 5K - it's still a thirsty barge with parts that aren't cheap, but the small bumpers and not too restrictive emissions junk save it.
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He spent the last week reworking the wiring I installed about 25 years ago for a stereo system. I had about a week to get it working the first time around (including a bunch of other prep work before heading to Alaska in 1995), so it was somewhat rudimentary, with improper wire choices, so it did not stand the test of time well. He proudly lit it up last night and proclaimed, "Dad, this is the best stereo system we have." I challenged him with that claim citing the Q7, and he said, "well, it might be a tie over all, but this one has better base." Hahaha
Afterward, we pulled the front (grille) off the van to access the battery area, and I removed the extremely rusty tray there to replace with a plastic unit that I just bolted into the original holder arms. Much more secure now. We also replaced the flasher unit, which now works perfectly with the emergency flashers, but is inoperative with blinkers... ? I hate electrical gremlins.
Finally, I pulled the engine housing off to adjust the idle speed, and it was rather fortuitous because it turns out that a small rubber fuel line, which is hidden under the air housing, was leaking! Not a little, either. We swapped that out, no more leak, and now it is ready to go for another driving ed night for my son.
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I'd go no more than 5K all-in, too - after taxes etc. Figure maybe $2500 for a coat of clear and interior renovation, along with maybe a little towards tires or the major service I suspect it needs. So you'd be in for say $8K, and you'd have to be very patient to recoup that at selling time, unless the market changes a lot. It's a dangerous game with something like that, unless you really love it and don't care about a loss. I do have to say I enjoy the color combo on that car, and the general 70s chic style, but not enough to buy one unless it was really beautiful and really a bargain.
Thinking of drum brakes, I am sure my dad's 60 Ford had them, I can't remember if the 66 Galaxie or 68 Fairlane had front discs or not. Funny, as my dad always did his own brake jobs on old or modern cars, I think he kind of enjoyed it.
The Cutlass has 4-wheel drums and they are serviceable but not great.
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Fintail has a locking steering wheel and I am sure it is collapsible. No shoulder belts, but there are mounting points hidden under the B-pillar vinyl trim (you'd have to cut it). Ahead of its time a little, I guess.
"MATCHING VIN NUMBERS" says a lot
In 20 years probably where SLCs are now
Transposed digits x2, price is too darn high
Good luck with that
Rare, but money pit
Might be OK
Lifespan = indefinite
Cool look but that price LOL
Character by the truckload
Worth a fraction of this 15 years ago no doubt
Lacking in details but looks fair
Well-preserved example of something becoming scarce
Honest hauler
Maybe a little dear, but most are ruined by now
Oh hello there
Cloth?
These creative paintjobs remind me of something seen in Cuba
Not too common this late, optimistic price