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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,960
    nyccarguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.

    370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

    @roadburner - I think you’ll enjoy the 3.7L N/A V6 a lot. It makes up for the Z’s other shortcomings. It won’t give you that daily driver/track star personality that your 2er gives you. I think a mechanical LSD would be an incredible upgrade. Once you drive with that for a while, then go for the tune.
    A tune on the 370? It won't do much. Within reason, there is very little extra power to be extracted from that car with simple bolt-ons.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 32,937
    doesn't it already have in the neighborhood of 328HP? Isn't enough ever enough? If not, skip the tune, and just slap a blower on it.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,312
    qbrozen said:

    nyccarguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    Now that someone said it I think I've seen @roadburner mention the 370Z before, STi too.

    370Z is correct. It’s old school in some ways I like(NA V6) and it’s old school in some ways I don’t(crude telematics- no mobile app access). I will have to drive the candidates and see.

    @roadburner - I think you’ll enjoy the 3.7L N/A V6 a lot. It makes up for the Z’s other shortcomings. It won’t give you that daily driver/track star personality that your 2er gives you. I think a mechanical LSD would be an incredible upgrade. Once you drive with that for a while, then go for the tune.
    A tune on the 370? It won't do much. Within reason, there is very little extra power to be extracted from that car with simple bolt-ons.
    I meant to put an LSD & a tune on his 2 series.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,715
    stickguy said:

    doesn't it already have in the neighborhood of 328HP? Isn't enough ever enough? If not, skip the tune, and just slap a blower on it.

    I am all for more power ...however, after driving the Infiniti with 5 second 0-60 I think that’s more than enough to get me in trouble.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer) / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 32,937
    the Elantra is enough to get you in trouble. The Infiniti is enough to get you in jail.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,195
    I’m looking at a NISMO- 350 hp. Torque is down compared to the 2 Series, however. The Z runs the 1/4 in the mid thirteens, the 2er in the high twelves. I’ll need to take a long test drive to see if I could live with it.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 6,752
    I hadn’t looked at the 3-series lineup in a while. Nice to see they finally dumped the 320i.
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,195
    edited August 7
    I drove a 320i stick with the Track Handling Package. It was actually a lot of fun. A mild tune would bump the power up to 328i levels. A bit of a unicorn, however.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 32,937
    To me, a sport package 320 is probably closest to the traditional BMW that all the purists reminisce about. But didn’t actually buy.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 6,752
    I understand, but wasn’t the 0-60 in the 7 second range? That looked bad.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,357
    Yes. 320i stick with track handling handled great but was sluggish.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i, 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 32,937
    That’s plenty for probably 99% of people, 99% of the time. And way faster than the classic ones.

    I was looking more at respectable power, a stick, well balanced handling, etc.

    If the goal is a hellcat, they make those too!

    I almost bought a 168 hp 525i back in 2001. I kept hearing that is was “too slow”, but I found it plenty quick off the line, and had great mid range pull. 30 to 70 down an on-ramp, did great there. Plus, you can use the stick to keep the revs up when you need more scoot on tap.

    I’d rather have that than something with so much power you have to feather the gas from a stop, and can’t ever take it over 2k RPM.

    Maybe I’m a Luddite, but I find my 4 banger TLX to be plenty spritely. The RDX is a little hot rod if you floor it.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,357
    More power argh argh argh
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i, 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,024
    2020 GLI - 'Autobahn models add standard wireless charging and the DCC® adaptive damping system for the 2020 model year.'
    No 35th edition.
    - Ray
    Link
    https://media.vw.com/releases/1186
    2016 BMW 340i
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,474
    Regarding power, I particularly enjoy the way the Miata drives with its relatively low power and naturally aspirated engine. It's very engaging to row through the gears without getting to illegal speeds too quickly.

    I can see the appeal of the 370z as an old school choice. As I mentioned before, I hadn't driven a Nissan or Infiniti in a while until I had that Maxima as a rental last week - that "old school" V6 is pretty sweet. And as dated as the 370z may be, I was next to one earlier this week and still find the design of it appealing. The NISMO model is particularly sharp.

    2018 Audi Q7 - 2018 Audi A5 - 2017 Miata RF

  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 8,715
    @stickguy
    We hear you! Heck I thought my 09 Genesis with 290 was flat out fast. I know it’s not especially now but it felt it back then.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer) / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • breldbreld Posts: 4,474
    I remember getting my '93 Prelude Si when I graduated college - 160 hp and I was hot stuff!

    2018 Audi Q7 - 2018 Audi A5 - 2017 Miata RF

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,357
    Beautiful. That was worthwhile waiting then on GLI.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i, 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,195
    breld said:

    Regarding power, I particularly enjoy the way the Miata drives with its relatively low power and naturally aspirated engine. It's very engaging to row through the gears without getting to illegal speeds too quickly.

    I can see the appeal of the 370z as an old school choice. As I mentioned before, I hadn't driven a Nissan or Infiniti in a while until I had that Maxima as a rental last week - that "old school" V6 is pretty sweet. And as dated as the 370z may be, I was next to one earlier this week and still find the design of it appealing. The NISMO model is particularly sharp.

    I like the Miata as well; the thing is, with my Club Sport I already have a “momentum car.”

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • @Ray, did you get a new ride? If so congratulations on the punch, if not yet then whoops my bad, from the sound of the posting above seems like you might have.
  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,368
    The Acura moves pretty quick if you want it to or it will loaf along at 75MPH around 1,600 RPM. I've grown to appreciate the linear and smooth power delivery of the V6.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2014 Nissan Altima 3.5SL - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road Double Cab
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 5,357
    TLX V6 A-Spec SH AWD looks like it could be a bit better than normal. There is an additional $1250 in loyalty/conquest money on top of the $9100 in lease cash. Even with the astronomical MF and pitiful residual, you could still get a 36/10 lease with first month and tags in the very low 400s. Assuming you can find any leftover 2019 stock.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i, 2002 Saab 9-3 Viggen
  • jmonroe1jmonroe1 Same as jmonroePosts: 1,052
    tjc78 said:

    @stickguy
    We hear you! Heck I thought my 09 Genesis with 290 was flat out fast. I know it’s not especially now but it felt it back then.

    Believe me, you would not have wanted to drive your anemic V6 '09 Genny in the Burgh area with all the hills around here. It might have been OK in the flat lands of NJ but the V8 Genny is the only one you want around my area.

    jmonroe
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 6,752
    Better curb protection is a bonus of switching to a plus-zero tire size.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 126,124
    corvette said:

    Better curb protection is a bonus of switching to a plus-zero tire size.

    If the Plus ZERO is done correctly, the sidewall be the exact same height..

    If it's taller, you are just putting on the wrong size.. ;)

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 PennsylvaniaPosts: 1,368
    @stickguy I feel your pain, I have a 1 inch scratch from catching a curb at the drive up ATM. I don't know how you feel but with the darker rims it seems like it shows more.
    1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2018 Acura TLX A-Spec SH-AWD - 2014 Nissan Altima 3.5SL - 2019 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road Double Cab
  • breldbreld Posts: 4,474
    My 16 year old called me at 11:00 the other night (on his way home) to say he took a left turn a bit too sharply and curbed the driver's side rear tire. Apparently it scared the heck out of him - and the tire was completely flat.

    So...given it's an older Acura with an actual spare tire, it was a sort of fun opportunity to show him how to change a tire out. And then we just drove it over to the local Discount Tire and left it there for the night.

    The tires were going to have to be replaced soon-ish anyway, so we just put on four new tires. Overall it was a good lesson for him - scared him a bit, made him more aware of spacing on turns, and at the end of the day, there wasn't any horrible consequence.

    2018 Audi Q7 - 2018 Audi A5 - 2017 Miata RF

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 25,960
    Never drove a 370, but I can speak to my 135 vs 350z. The 135 was obviously quite a bit faster, but also heavier, quieter, more ... civilized. The Z was a sportscar. I felt more connected to it, and it to the road. So they do serve different purposes, I think. And preference would be based on what you are looking for. A sportscar or a sportscruiser.

    '18 BMW 330xi; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 47-car history and counting!

  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 3,024
    '@Ray, did you get a new ride?' - marcogallo1986
    No - not yet - another 5 lease payments..
    - Ray
    [ sigh ]
    2016 BMW 340i
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