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  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,796
    Got to be in Chicago next week for work. Guess what’s going on there? Their car show. I’ll do a compare and contrast to the one in Cincinnati this weekend. I’m sure there will be no comparison.
    2018 Acura TLX 3.5 SH AWD A-SPEC
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228
    @graphicguy I LOVE Chicago. Check out the Art Institute if you have time. The Field Museum is also pretty good. The Museum of Broadcast Communications is neat, too.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,204
    Philly car show opens this Saturday. I’m super excited. Not going until the 2nd weekend though.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,038
    I'm excited, too, @stickguy. I get in Friday morning.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX
  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,796
    corvette said:

    @graphicguy I LOVE Chicago. Check out the Art Institute if you have time. The Field Museum is also pretty good. The Museum of Broadcast Communications is neat, too.

    Chicago is one of my favorite cities. Have been to Shedd, Science and Industry, History, Modern Art, Adler (planetarium) museums.
    2018 Acura TLX 3.5 SH AWD A-SPEC
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,204

    I'm excited, too, @stickguy. I get in Friday morning.

    Supposed to be raining. You will feel right at home!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 13,732
    ab348 said:

    So @nyccarguy , what are you doing in San Diego?

    I had to go for work. A buying group I am a member of has a convention once a year. This year they picked San Diego. I didn't sleep through the night since Friday. It felt so good to come home and sleep in my own bed.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2017 Pilot Touring AWD, 2019 Tacoma TRD Sport 4WD

  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 1,498

    Picked up 8 Chevy Suburbans tonight used by the Secret Service for the game Sunday. There were still more Suburbans and Ford Expeditions to move, all black. Guess we'll be busy tomorrow. Did another trip up to Ft. Pierce today before lunch. Then some West Palm to Ft. Lauderdale stuff and then the Suburban moves back to our home base, "99". Evey location has a number but I can't do numbers, my brain is to saturated. So after saying, "hand me the keys", I always say, "and where am I going"? Only two things I ever need to know for each trip honestly. But please, give me a street address as a number means nothing to me, except I know "99" and that's a no brainer for me.
    Working tomorrow but Thursday is anyones guess at this point but, if I were a betting man, I'd go with working.

    I wish we had numbers. Our offices are mostly two letter designations which are harder to remember. Our home base is BC but for the rest I carry a sheet. Strangely, one office in Troy, NY is designated 36.

    I’ve learned not to think too much on why things are done.

    Did you find anything interesting in those Secret Service rentals? A bullet proof vest or a bazooka maybe?
    "I’ve learned not to think too much on why things are done."

    Words to live by.

    2020 Ascent, 2018 Legacy 3.6R

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228

    corvette said:

    @graphicguy I LOVE Chicago. Check out the Art Institute if you have time. The Field Museum is also pretty good. The Museum of Broadcast Communications is neat, too.

    Chicago is one of my favorite cities. Have been to Shedd, Science and Industry, History, Modern Art, Adler (planetarium) museums.
    MSI was a little stale when I was there last summer. Shedd is very nice, but I'm not big on aquariums. I may check out Adler next time. Lots of great places to eat, too!
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyPosts: 9,569
    nyccarguy said:

    ab348 said:

    So @nyccarguy , what are you doing in San Diego?

    I had to go for work. A buying group I am a member of has a convention once a year. This year they picked San Diego. I didn't sleep through the night since Friday. It felt so good to come home and sleep in my own bed.
    If I was working I’d be heading to Seattle Sunday for a show.

    Those shows are always tough. 8+!hours of presentations, then the overly long dinners, followed by way too much drinking.

    Then a loonnng flight home.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2019 Volvo S60 T6 Inscription

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    Probably not a good week for the river architecture tour. :)
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,742

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,244
    Michaell said:
    The tough Seargeant type answer would be:

    Don't get a lease you are not prepared to take to the end no matter what!
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    That story is a strange coincidence.
    A friend of mine leased a Gen 1 X1(before they were MINI's underneath) and wanted to buy it at lease end.
    He was told he had to turn it in due to an outstanding recall.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,038
    Responded. Unfortunately the answer is “tough noogies.”
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228
    @explorerx4 didn’t think they could do that - I always thought the residual value on a lease usually meant a guarantee you could buy it out at that price. BMW may include consumer unfriendly terms and conditions about recalls, though.

    Lease transfers, I can kind of understand, since those are generally at the grace of the financing company. On the other hand, if you refuse to allow a transfer to a new lessee due to a recall, what business do you have allowing the tens of thousands of existing owners and lessees to continue driving these dangerous vehicles? Just buy them back if they’re that bad.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,204
    that is what I would tell them. if I can't sell it or buy it, you better give me a new one that is not defective.

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,038
    Tried it. They don’t care.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228

    Tried it. They don’t care.

    That’s pathetic on their part. I’d hit them and the selling dealership on every social media platform.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 6,038
    I won’t slam a dealer for something that is out of their control. This is solely BMWFS and BMWNA.
    2019 Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited, 2019 BMW i3 REX
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 145,453

    Probably not a good week for the river architecture tour. :)

    Love that!

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  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228

    I won’t slam a dealer for something that is out of their control. This is solely BMWFS and BMWNA.

    Good point, but a jilted dealer is in a better position to get BMWFS and BMWNA to change their practices than a single customer.
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,178
    Had to take a 2018 VW Atlas to my local VW store today. My lead driver thought I'd like to take it since I'd have enough time until I got picked up to stop home and use the facilities and catch a soda. So, came home, threw a load of wash in, emptied the dishwasher and had a small bowl of ice cream before going to turn in the Atlas. Got back to VW by 4:10 and unknown to me, another driver who was right behind me, had an accident within a minute of me pulling into traffic. Guy in a Camaro drop top hit his Cadillac but after a few minutes of talking, guy ran to his car and took off!! Crazy [non-permissible content removed] happens down here. Finally got picked up at 6:05 hut hell, I get paid by the hour.
    While at the VW store, asked about those three new 2020 Golfs. Guy checked the stats of the blue one and asked him if it ad the Beats sound system? He disappeared never to re-appear again. Lousy salesman because he never followed through even though he had my name also. As of now, still no call back!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • graphicguygraphicguy Edmunds Poster EmeritusPosts: 11,796
    edited February 6
    Sandy...I had a sales person like that several years ago at a Lexus dealer, of all places. Test drove an IS350 after they first came out. Liked it enough that we had sat down at his desk and I made an offer. He did the “gotta talk to my manager” routine. Left...I waited about 20 minutes and finally went to the receptionist to see where the sales person was.

    She paged him over the intercom a few times. He never came back. I still had the keys to the Lexus in my pocket. On my way out, I tossed them to the receptionist and left. Never heard another peep from him, or the dealership, ever again.
    2018 Acura TLX 3.5 SH AWD A-SPEC
  • ventureventure Central PAPosts: 1,498
    I went into a BMW dealer to buy a car. I walked around and looked at every car in the show room. A few salespeople were in their offices. Occasionally one would look at me, but nobody ever came out. I had $10,000 in cash in my pockets to leave as a down payment. I guess since I had on jeans and a t-shirt they figured I wasn't a serious buyer. They should have known because of the two big lumps in my front pockets. :smile:

    That proved to be a self-fulling prophesy. I bought one at a dealer the next town over the next day. They were very happy to help me.

    2020 Ascent, 2018 Legacy 3.6R

  • andres3andres3 Southern CAPosts: 11,244

    I won’t slam a dealer for something that is out of their control. This is solely BMWFS and BMWNA.

    You are nicer than me.

    I'd feel the dealership has some control. Control over not selling bogus product in the first place. Control over doing something above and beyond to make it right.

    Leasing scares me.
    '16 Audi TTS quattro 2.0T, '15 Audi A4 quattro 2.0T, '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion AWD 2.0T
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    I remember he ended up leasing an X3 after that, and hated it.
    Turned that in and bought a CPO Mercedes SUV.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,163

    Had to take a 2018 VW Atlas to my local VW store today. My lead driver thought I'd like to take it since I'd have enough time until I got picked up to stop home and use the facilities and catch a soda. So, came home, threw a load of wash in, emptied the dishwasher and had a small bowl of ice cream before going to turn in the Atlas. Got back to VW by 4:10 and unknown to me, another driver who was right behind me, had an accident within a minute of me pulling into traffic. Guy in a Camaro drop top hit his Cadillac but after a few minutes of talking, guy ran to his car and took off!! Crazy [non-permissible content removed] happens down here. Finally got picked up at 6:05 hut hell, I get paid by the hour.
    While at the VW store, asked about those three new 2020 Golfs. Guy checked the stats of the blue one and asked him if it ad the Beats sound system? He disappeared never to re-appear again. Lousy salesman because he never followed through even though he had my name also. As of now, still no call back!

    I’ve found that at some of the high end dealers the sales staff can’t be bothered with the likes of us low wage workers. It’s as if they think we couldn’t possibly afford their cars.

    Maybe go back with your nice watch and fancy shoes to see if their attitude changes.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,178
    Weird part was he knew I already owned a 2015 model and we talked about the salesman who sold it to me, long gone though. Went online at home and saw they have no SE models so, might just be another Golf is not in my future.
    Am hoping I really like the new Kia Seltos enough to want to get one as my next vehicle. Love that it's raised a bit so I just might be able to slide in and out like I did with my 2014 Tucson, the only thing I really liked about it. It's also small enough, at 159", to fit well within my sid of the garage. Lastly, am so ready to go back to "cheap to keep" at this point. As much as I'd like a BMW, not wanting to get into a vehicle that needs expensive upkeep and think the smallest one, the 330i, might just fit at home. And not sure I really want a sedan, as we've already got the A3. Did see a nice CPO unit at the Audi store on Monday, a 2017 with miles just under $20K, but having another A3 might just be too much. And do I really want to get used again? Not quite sure. Should have test drove it though just to see but...didn't.
    I did like sitting in the new Hyundai Venue when we bought the kid's new Accent in December. Great size, comfortable, layout was quite nice...I liked it especially in the Denim Edition. But think the new Seltos is really what I might be looking for going forward. So, will give one a test drive soon, and then, we'll see. I knew within 5 minutes while driving my current VW Golf that it was going to be mine, soon enough. Now, if I have that same feeling once I drive the Kia Seltos, then I'll know that in time, it'll be parked on my side of the garage!

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 4,740
    I've been in exactly one BMW dealership in my life, in Scottsdale, AZ. This was over 20 years ago, when BMW still offered cars that I liked, and it wasn't as if I came in on the weekend after I'd mowed the lawn. I came in during a lunch hour dressed what came to be called "business casual," and no one of the sales staff could be bothered to ask me what I was interested in seeing. I wandered around for 10-15 minutes, then left.

    I'll never darken the door of another one, that's certain, but it has mostly to do with the rolling computers they're selling these days.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 5,178
    Was off today, yay, but woke up and hurting due to my constant chronic pain. Stayed in bed much longer than I had planned, so no trip to get the brakes checked. Going Monday to get the oil changed so will have them check them then. If it turns out I need front pads or rotors, will have the work done and just keep the Golf a bit longer. Not the worst thing in the world. Now that my driving has been cut down to almost nothing, kinda silly to trade it in for something new. It's behaving so might be smart to just keep it and put off any buying plans for a bit. Once it has an issue, then that might be the proper time to trade it in but since it is behaving right now, probably best to just do nothing.
    Used to drive 1300 miles each month but now, it's turned into less than 250 per month, if that! And if I do trade, a lease might just be the way to go so I can maybe get something a bit nicer and just turn it in at the terms end. Just don't know.
    All I do know, I need to test drive the Venue and the Seltos, and go from there. It's the best I've got right now, so that'll be the plan going forward.

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2)

  • fintailfintail Posts: 49,087
    I've been to many dealers where I wasn't even approached. I was pleased, as I wasn't actually shopping B)

    Here in casually dressed techieland, I doubt any salesman who wants a paycheck disregards a browser on appearance.

    When I was still in my 20s, I stopped at the local Porsche dealer to look at a C43 AMG, an unusual car I was considering at the time. I pulled up in my nice 1989 S-class, even then an aging car, but well kept. I was thrown the keys, told I could take it out as I wished, just beware it might not have much gas. I took it out for an hour or so, solo. I came close to buying it, but when I came back a couple days later to make an offer, it had sold.
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCPosts: 3,046
    I guess it’s kind of funny, when I go to car lot to look and don’t want to be approached I am tackled, yet the times I go in to look seriously I don’t get a wink.

    2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech, 2013 Honda Accord EX, 2006 Acura TL w/nav

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,204
    same. It is hit or miss. I have been ignored at basic model stores (like Chevy or Honda). and had great service at BMW. Caddy, I stood there for ages, obviously looking around for people, but got the big brush off. Eventually I take the hint, There s always another dealer someplace to test drive at.

    and I have the age and gray hair to fit the demographic at Caddy or Lexus!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Posts: 14,163

    Weird part was he knew I already owned a 2015 model and we talked about the salesman who sold it to me, long gone though. Went online at home and saw they have no SE models so, might just be another Golf is not in my future.
    Am hoping I really like the new Kia Seltos enough to want to get one as my next vehicle. Love that it's raised a bit so I just might be able to slide in and out like I did with my 2014 Tucson, the only thing I really liked about it. It's also small enough, at 159", to fit well within my sid of the garage. Lastly, am so ready to go back to "cheap to keep" at this point. As much as I'd like a BMW, not wanting to get into a vehicle that needs expensive upkeep and think the smallest one, the 330i, might just fit at home. And not sure I really want a sedan, as we've already got the A3. Did see a nice CPO unit at the Audi store on Monday, a 2017 with miles just under $20K, but having another A3 might just be too much. And do I really want to get used again? Not quite sure. Should have test drove it though just to see but...didn't.
    I did like sitting in the new Hyundai Venue when we bought the kid's new Accent in December. Great size, comfortable, layout was quite nice...I liked it especially in the Denim Edition. But think the new Seltos is really what I might be looking for going forward. So, will give one a test drive soon, and then, we'll see. I knew within 5 minutes while driving my current VW Golf that it was going to be mine, soon enough. Now, if I have that same feeling once I drive the Kia Seltos, then I'll know that in time, it'll be parked on my side of the garage!

    Saw a Seltos yesterday during a delivery. Interesting styling. I didn’t get to sit in it but thought the $25k sticker was reasonable.

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2004 Chevy Van, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,796
    Yet another management shakeup at Ford. Veteran Joe Hinrichs is out the door, leaving Jim Farley in the catbird seat.

    https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2020/02/automotive-head-joe-hinrichs-gone-amid-ford-shakeup/

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228
    Cincinnati-area peeps, Chevy is also offering me Dayton Auto Show tickets (2/20-2/23) if anyone would like them. I don't plan to use them.
  • jmonroejmonroe Pittsburgh areaPosts: 8,722
    corvette said:

    Cincinnati-area peeps, Chevy is also offering me Dayton Auto Show tickets (2/20-2/23) if anyone would like them. I don't plan to use them.

    I'm beginning to wonder if any city can entice you with freebie tickets. What's it going to take, a car show in your companies parking lot or what? :o

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228
    jmonroe said:

    corvette said:

    Cincinnati-area peeps, Chevy is also offering me Dayton Auto Show tickets (2/20-2/23) if anyone would like them. I don't plan to use them.

    I'm beginning to wonder if any city can entice you with freebie tickets. What's it going to take, a car show in your companies parking lot or what? :o

    jmonroe
    We've kind of had that before, too. Founder had a Bentley shipped from their home in another state to the office using one of those high-end enclosed car transports. There was a Porsche and lots of other cool stuff inside.
  • jmonroejmonroe Pittsburgh areaPosts: 8,722
    corvette said:

    jmonroe said:

    corvette said:

    Cincinnati-area peeps, Chevy is also offering me Dayton Auto Show tickets (2/20-2/23) if anyone would like them. I don't plan to use them.

    I'm beginning to wonder if any city can entice you with freebie tickets. What's it going to take, a car show in your companies parking lot or what? :o

    jmonroe
    We've kind of had that before, too. Founder had a Bentley shipped from their home in another state to the office using one of those high-end enclosed car transports. There was a Porsche and lots of other cool stuff inside.
    Figures. B)

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    @ab348,
    When you don't make the numbers, someone's head is going to roll.
    CAP had their plant manager replaced recently, too.
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • jmonroejmonroe Pittsburgh areaPosts: 8,722

    @ab348,
    When you don't make the numbers, someone's head is going to roll.
    CAP had their plant manager replaced recently, too.

    OK, I'm not up on abbreviations. What is CAP, Canadian Auto Parts? :o

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 14,156
    Chicago Assembly Plant(where the Explorer is built).
    2019 Lincoln MKZ Reserve 1, 2017 Ford F-150 Limited
  • jmonroejmonroe Pittsburgh areaPosts: 8,722

    Chicago Assembly Plant(where the Explorer is built).

    Thanks.

    jmonroe

    '15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 11,796
    I get WGN Chicago on cable and am watching a live 1-hour preview from the Chicago Auto Show on the night they have a first look showing for charity. Lots of guys in tuxedos and women in evening gowns. It looks like quite the experience with lots of car-related stuff in addition to just looking at the cars, plus lots of food and drink. The WGN hosts are good too, and include John Davis of Motorweek.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 7,228
    ab348 said:

    The WGN hosts are good too, and include John Davis of Motorweek.

    I remember watching Motorweek on PBS as a kid. Glad to know it's still around.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 35,204
    Philly car show opens tomorrow, and the Friday before they always do a black tie gala to raise money for charity. Lots of big money people at that!

    2019 Acura TLX A-spec 4 cyl. (mine), and 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's)

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 12,589
    The BMW Store has a 2018 330e M Sport. It has about every option save most of the optional nannies. Estoril Blue over black, 22,600 miles, $28,684. It would make a dandy commuter, but it's too expensive to replace the Clubman and not fast enough to replace the 2er. Still a fun car, however. One of the sale guys at my store leased one for his wife. She drove it to work on the electric motor and drove home on the IC motor- averaging a bit over 75 mpg.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2014 M235i; 2009 Cooper Clubman; 1999 Wrangler; 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 137,742

    The BMW Store has a 2018 330e M Sport. It has about every option save most of the optional nannies. Estoril Blue over black, 22,600 miles, $28,684. It would make a dandy commuter, but it's too expensive to replace the Clubman and not fast enough to replace the 2er. Still a fun car, however. One of the sale guys at my store leased one for his wife. She drove it to work on the electric motor and drove home on the IC motor- averaging a bit over 75 mpg.

    Did you ever get to test drive the Stinger GTS, or has that fancy passed?

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