Walked a decent bit this afternoon. Cut through the overflow lot for the local Mitsubishi dealer. It looks like they dump their trade-ins there--I think the same group owns the local Kia dealership, so some of them may be from there. Here was part of the lineup, all domestic iron except for a Sportage. There was also a most-recent generation Pontiac Grand Am in a different line and there's a most-recent Galant and a ~2000-ish Accord that's been sitting there on jack stands for months. I wonder what they were traded in on.
Those look like they might be headed for auction, once those start back up.
Yeah it's a base car, yeah it's the 4 cyl. But spec'd just right, low miles, no issues. Don't think I didn't give this one a think earlier in the week...
That's cool... but, if I'm going used, I want a six cylinder manual.
Are the newer 718models safe from the dreaded IMS issue? After what, a decade, did they finally redesign the engine, or still just trying to bandaid the part to hide the Design flaw?
Here we go. Price is more dear, but given the year and miles, seems a worthwhile trade up.
I test drove an almost identical one to that, before I ended up getting my wife the X3 loaner.
My impressions: A lot of power, but nowhere near the tight handling of the X3. Most of that I would attribute to the very light steering effort (plus body roll). You can drive that with one finger on the wheel. Almost three years ago, when I drove one.. it was in the low '30s, IIRC.
I do Like that one, colors and equipment. Not sure I would ever really trust it. Kinda like having a pet tiger. Might seem cool and friendly, but you always wonder, when is it going to bite you in the keister?
@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
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Looks like no xenons, and who knows what else is missing (the options list on those is pretty long). I’ve not heard great things about reliability. My friend who used to be a mechanic at the MINI dealer didn’t have great things to say about them.
@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
well, at least it is an S so has the "big" motor. and sports seats. No pano roof though, big minus. and no navi or car play, so pretty "old school". Not horribly expensive for 3 YO so that is something, and miles are reasonable.
@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
7 secs 0-60.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Private seller has a 2009 ML63 with 77k miles for $15k. I’m not sure that makes sense, however, if you can get a 3-yr newer ML550 that is actually quicker and gets better mileage for similar money. Maybe I’m missing something.
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@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
7 secs 0-60.
you planning to take it up to Englishtown on the weekends?
@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
7 secs 0-60.
you planning to take it up to Englishtown on the weekends?
Seriously? Maybe back in the '80s; today a seven second 0-60 time is bog slow. Even my wife's X1 does it in a tick over six seconds. Five to six seconds is average at best. "Fast" only describes cars that hit 60 mph in the low four second range or better, and I'm being charitable.
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@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
7 secs 0-60.
I see 6.5 in most tests, but I agree. Stunningly slow, considering the HP.
Those previous-gen Caddy CTS base models came with the 3.0 V-6 for some reason known only to GM. It was a dog of an engine unless it had/has a turbo bolted on. It was the standard V6 in the 2010 Buick Lacrosse as well and got replaced after a year or so with the 3.6 because it was even too slow in that.
Looks like no xenons, and who knows what else is missing (the options list on those is pretty long). I’ve not heard great things about reliability. My friend who used to be a mechanic at the MINI dealer didn’t have great things to say about them.
The F5x Mini's with the B48 I4 are pretty reliable; even the pocket protector equipped geeks at Consumer Reports like them. The earlier cars like my Clubman beater usually need several chronic fixes around 100k; my Clubman had already had everything done(except for a VANOS solenoid) when I bought it.
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The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
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The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
3k in misc seals, gaskets, the guibo and hoses.
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The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
I need to get mine done too. Thanks for the reminder.
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@28firefighter, love that color combo, but 20k more miles than the one I found. I'm not sure what a b&o stereo adds. I don't listen to music nearly as loud as I used to. I used to care about the stereo but have lately found not so much.
@stickguy, yes the Caddy is too slow. Even a T5 volvo is quicker.
@tjc78, YES! Isn't that shocking? SRT8s are more expensive than any of the luxo brands. Crazy.
I was stunned. I thought they would have come down near the levels of the other ones you posted.
why not just get a regular Hemi JGC? should still be plenty fast, and if you want it faster, easy enough to hop it up! besides, these are tall truck/utes, so how the heck fast do you really want to go in one? Got the Charger if you feel the need for speed!
7 secs 0-60.
I see 6.5 in most tests, but I agree. Stunningly slow, considering the HP.
I think that's when they went to the 8-spd in 2014. Ones before that are a good bit slower. 6.5 is actually not all too bad. Just not sure it fits my portfolio. The XC60 seems a better way to go, IMHO. And, honestly, I keep going back to the Porsche because I've never had one. Lately, I feel like I should aim to check brands off the list.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
That all depends on the dealer; if the SA is on commission look out!
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Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Seems suspiciously cheap. That accident Reported by auto check must have been a doozy!
Actually, its not cheap. Checking Manheim, it is about right. I'd actually offer $17k. I guess the hybrid is not very popular. Maybe it is something I should consider, although I'd imaging long-term reliability would still favor the v8.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
When mine went in for the airbags, they didn't do anything else but wash it. I think maybe they are sensitive to that.
On another note, right after @pensfan83 bought mine, I got a notice that there was a new, updated airbag, and mine needed to be replaced again. This was a good three to four years after the originals were replaced.
The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
When mine went in for the airbags, they didn't do anything else but wash it. I think maybe they are sensitive to that.
On another note, right after @pensfan83 bought mine, I got a notice that there was a new, updated airbag, and mine needed to be replaced again. This was a good three to four years after the originals were replaced.
That’s how I knew I needed to check mine!
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The ZHP goes in tomorrow for the the passenger side takata airbag recall. Anyone want to take a bets as to (1) if they find anything else wrong, (2) how much they estimate it would be to fix it?
Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
When mine went in for the airbags, they didn't do anything else but wash it. I think maybe they are sensitive to that.
On another note, right after @pensfan83 bought mine, I got a notice that there was a new, updated airbag, and mine needed to be replaced again. This was a good three to four years after the originals were replaced.
Had the Outback in for 1 year maintenance. 5k miles. Probably 3000 off our norm because of COVID.
Only abnormality is some coolant needed to be added. Seems strange for 5k miles. Something to keep an eye on.
My Subaru dealer is emailing me weekly about coming in for service. I think we've put 3-4K on it since the last one, so I don't feel like I'm in too much of a hurry.
@breld I forgot to answer an earlier question - I did not get a chance to drive a current TT yet. I only sat in the roadster to see if I would fit at all, which can be an issue at 6'2". I did. Plan was to come back and do a proper test drive, then the Z4 happened. Seems like if you liked your GTI, then you'd like the styled Golf R that is the TT. But get the roadster, okay? Nice ones here locally seem to be in the low 30's for a 17 with around 20k miles.
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Maybe I’m biased because I love those!
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Are the newer 718models safe from the dreaded IMS issue? After what, a decade, did they finally redesign the engine, or still just trying to bandaid the part to hide the Design flaw?
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My impressions: A lot of power, but nowhere near the tight handling of the X3. Most of that I would attribute to the very light steering effort (plus body roll). You can drive that with one finger on the wheel. Almost three years ago, when I drove one.. it was in the low '30s, IIRC.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/785805179/overview/
and this one looks nice. newer with fewer miles. pretty well equipped with modern conveniences. and seems to have 345 HP?
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/805257406/overview/
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Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
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Note: it just had a clean bill of health from my Indy.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
On another note, right after @pensfan83 bought mine, I got a notice that there was a new, updated airbag, and mine needed to be replaced again. This was a good three to four years after the originals were replaced.
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Only abnormality is some coolant needed to be added. Seems strange for 5k miles. Something to keep an eye on.
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Good insight that you fit well - I’m maybe an inch taller. But of course I figured if I was okay in the Miata most anything else would be okay!
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