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qbrozen · September 2020

28firefighter said:
There are some of my generation who will go out and interview for jobs and get offers, simply to leverage them for a raise. I understand why, but I hate that.

When I start looking, I’m already committed to leaving for the next thing that is a fit. And, I’ve been offered the increased comp and title to try and stop me. Like several have said, it isn’t about money at that point. And the relationship with your leaders will never be the same at the original job if you take it - they’ll know your “loyalty” can be bought.

Unfortunately, there are some employers who won't give raises UNLESS you do that. I was actually told that by a VP at a company I worked for.

stickguy · September 2020

Probably only way I’ll get a decent one where I am now. Assuming they didn’t just wish me well and show me the door.

pensfan83 · September 2020

28firefighter said:
There are some of my generation who will go out and interview for jobs and get offers, simply to leverage them for a raise. I understand why, but I hate that.

Oh boy....don't get me started on that. My managers or myself have had that happen so many times I've lost count....highly, highly annoying. What those folks overlook though, is that it's a small world when it comes to the field they are in and mid to high level managers across organizations talk so you're only harming your future marketability.

28firefighter · September 2020

qbrozen said:

28firefighter said:
There are some of my generation who will go out and interview for jobs and get offers, simply to leverage them for a raise. I understand why, but I hate that.

When I start looking, I’m already committed to leaving for the next thing that is a fit. And, I’ve been offered the increased comp and title to try and stop me. Like several have said, it isn’t about money at that point. And the relationship with your leaders will never be the same at the original job if you take it - they’ll know your “loyalty” can be bought.
Unfortunately, there are some employers who won't give raises UNLESS you do that. I was actually told that by a VP at a company I worked for.

Then, IMO, I don't want to work for that company long-term anyway and would be looking for the door. Very shortsighted talent strategy.

pensfan83 said:

28firefighter said:
There are some of my generation who will go out and interview for jobs and get offers, simply to leverage them for a raise. I understand why, but I hate that.
Oh boy....don't get me started on that. My managers or myself have had that happen so many times I've lost count....highly, highly annoying. What those folks overlook though, is that it's a small world when it comes to the field they are in and mid to high level managers across organizations talk so you're only harming your future marketability.

As you know, this is true in my field as well - and even the ancillary ones that are related to it that folks sometimes pivot into. Everyone tends to know everyone and word gets out.

driver100 · September 2020

Wouldn't this kind of tow truck like they use in Europe make more sense? They don't have to get in front of the car, and it can move any kind of car and transmission configuration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogzmCDA4P0

jmonroe1 · September 2020

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:
tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.
I'll take that bet.
I think I have been let go from about 8 companies.....3 were not my control (downsizing), 2 firings, and 2 or 3 were me leaving.

And you’re doing your best to work your way out of here.

jmonroe

snakeweasel · September 2020

stickguy said:
Probably only way I’ll get a decent one where I am now. Assuming they didn’t just wish me well and show me the door.

I 've worked for companies that would do that, as soon as they find out you have another job offer you were out the door immediately with two weeks severance pay.

stickguy · September 2020

now that is a cool contraption.

driver100 · September 2020

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:
tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.
I'll take that bet.
I think I have been let go from about 8 companies.....3 were not my control (downsizing), 2 firings, and 2 or 3 were me leaving.
And you’re doing your best to work your way out of here.

jmonroe

I don't like to leave quietly....if I am going I want to go in a blaze of glory!

snakeweasel · September 2020

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:
tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.
I'll take that bet.
I think I have been let go from about 8 companies.....3 were not my control (downsizing), 2 firings, and 2 or 3 were me leaving.

Lets see, My last sales job (as a manager) I was let go with no explanation, I was downsized from one company,, one company shut down, I was let go from a position with a local village for political reasons. And I was fired from a job I had in high school. So that was 5 that I was involuntarily Add that to 2 or 3 that I left on my own accord.

Now add to that I spent almost 10 years freelancing as a consultant which adds 12 or so places I worked at anywhere from a couple of months to two years.

Currently 13 years at the same place.

omarman · September 2020

Gone in 54 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaYN6yC4bnI

driver100 said:
Wouldn't this kind of tow truck like they use in Europe make more sense? They don't have to get in front of the car, and it can move any kind of car and transmission configuration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogzmCDA4P0

sda · September 2020

One thing to keep in mind is how soon will you be vested in retirement plans. Perhaps (depending on the amount) might be better to delay and keep your hard earrned retirement dollars and move on after you've met the vesting requirement. Certainly if you've only been at a job a very short time it doesn't matter.

tjc78 · September 2020

sda said:
One thing to keep in mind is how soon will you be vested in retirement plans. Perhaps (depending on the amount) might be better to delay and keep your hard earrned retirement dollars and move on after you've met the vesting requirement. Certainly if you've only been at a job a very short time it doesn't matter.

My plan I had for 20 years is just sitting there right now it was fully vested. I wasn't eligible to roll it until the beginning of the year with the new company.

driver100 · September 2020

Is this the kind of dent a dent guy can remove? This is from when my gas cap door cover came off in the car wash.

Michaell · September 2020

driver100 said:
Is this the kind of dent a dent guy can remove? This is from when my gas cap door cover came off in the car wash.

Pretty sure it can be done ... I saw Ant Anstead fix a very similar dent on a 2001 S4 Avant last night on Wheeler Dealers.

stickguy · September 2020

Might not be perfect but can likely get it most of the way there.

driver100 · September 2020

Michaell said:

driver100 said:
Is this the kind of dent a dent guy can remove? This is from when my gas cap door cover came off in the car wash.

Pretty sure it can be done ... I saw Ant Anstead fix a very similar dent on a 2001 S4 Avant last night on Wheeler Dealers.

Thanks for the info Michaell....I have been leaving it because no one seems to notice it and it is a pain trying to find time to take it in.

stickguy · September 2020

I had pointless done once many years ago. Guy came here and did the work in my driveway.

driver100 · September 2020

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:
tjc I have probably been hired and fired or quit more companies than anyone around here.
I'll take that bet.
I think I have been let go from about 8 companies.....3 were not my control (downsizing), 2 firings, and 2 or 3 were me leaving.
Lets see, My last sales job (as a manager) I was let go with no explanation, I was downsized from one company,, one company shut down, I was let go from a position with a local village for political reasons. And I was fired from a job I had in high school. So that was 5 that I was involuntarily Add that to 2 or 3 that I left on my own accord.

Now add to that I spent almost 10 years freelancing as a consultant which adds 12 or so places I worked at anywhere from a couple of months to two years.

Currently 13 years at the same place.

We are close......can't count placements as separate jobs really. My longest job was with a publisher for 16 years, after that the next longest was 3 years, I made it to 3 with a few of them.

driver100 · September 2020

Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?

bwia · September 2020

tjc78 said:
Time for what would you do?

So I took a new job about 5 weeks ago. Good company, but truth be told the CEO didn’t quite explain the day to day. I’m not entirely happy, and really feel like I’m not doing what I was hired to do either. On the flip side the money is good, WFH, and there should be room for advancement.

Today I get a phone call from the retailer that I had an offer pending with before Covid hit. He explained that they want to now offer me a Sr level position with 4 direct reports one of them being a PM I had at my last job. Salary is just shy of a 25% bump.

I feel bad because they just made a big announcement on LinkedIn and during a Town Hall. OTOH I feel it’s a much better opportunity and basically a carbon copy of what I did at the other retailer. It’s a tough call.

Thanks for listening.

@tjc78, Not to scare you but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. While it is flattering to get a new job offer at a 25% wage premium I would not be too quick to jump ship after just five weeks in your current job. In these uncertain economic times, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average down almost 1,000 points today, I would exercise caution and stay put for a while. The retail industry can be very fickle. And even the Walmart's and Target's of this world are not immune to economic factors.

In my experience I remember my former company being very pisssed off at a new HR director who quit after only one week on the job to go back to her original job. As karma would have it she was fired from her original company...making permanent enemies on both sides. What a tragedy. Good luck in whatever decision you make.

stickguy · September 2020

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?

Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.

tjc78 · September 2020

bwia said:

tjc78 said:
Time for what would you do?

So I took a new job about 5 weeks ago. Good company, but truth be told the CEO didn’t quite explain the day to day. I’m not entirely happy, and really feel like I’m not doing what I was hired to do either. On the flip side the money is good, WFH, and there should be room for advancement.

Today I get a phone call from the retailer that I had an offer pending with before Covid hit. He explained that they want to now offer me a Sr level position with 4 direct reports one of them being a PM I had at my last job. Salary is just shy of a 25% bump.

I feel bad because they just made a big announcement on LinkedIn and during a Town Hall. OTOH I feel it’s a much better opportunity and basically a carbon copy of what I did at the other retailer. It’s a tough call.

Thanks for listening.
@tjc78, Not to scare you but don't look a gift horse in the mouth. While it is flattering to get a new job offer at a 25% wage premium I would not be too quick to jump ship after just five weeks in your current job. In these uncertain economic times, with the Dow Jones Industrial Average down almost 1,000 points today, I would exercise caution and stay put for a while. The retail industry can be very fickle. And even the Walmart's and Target's of this world are not immune to economic factors.

In my experience I remember my former company being very pisssed off at a new HR director who quit after only one week on the job to go back to her original job. As karma would have it she was fired from her original company...making permanent enemies on both sides. What a tragedy. Good luck in whatever decision you make.

Thank you for a different look at things.

I'm still waiting on the formal written offer from the HR team so until that comes I can weigh all the pros and cons

driver100 · September 2020

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.

Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".

tjc78 · September 2020

Check with the service guys at your dealer. I'm sure they have a contact

jmonroe1 · September 2020

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".

I have a ball pean hammer. If you want to know which end to use, just ask.

jmonroe

driver100 · September 2020

tjc78 said:
Check with the service guys at your dealer. I'm sure they have a contact

I took the 2013 Audi A4 to a collision garage after a grandson put a dent in the bumper. It was a small job and they fixed it for $125. I got there early and I saw a guy in a little car drive in that had dent repairs done...painted on the door. So, I figure, the job was too small for them to do, but they probably pay him $50 or $75, then collect $125 from me....so I am thinking of going direct.

driver100 · September 2020

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer.
jmonroe

Don't come near me or my car with your ball pean hammer.

sb55 · September 2020

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer. If you want to know which end to use, just ask.

jmonroe

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but I used to work in the metal business. It's ball "peen" hammer. (Or apparently you can also spell it "pein"). Definition here:
Peen may refer to: Part of the head of a hammer, as in a ball-peen hammer (also ball-pein ,or ball and pein) Peening, the working of metal by hammering. Peening (scythe blade), peening a scythe or sickle blade as a step in sharpening it.

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

graphicguy said:

stickguy said:
It shouldn’t. That’s usually a big mistake, taking the money to stay in a job you weren’t happy with. Employer often holds it against you too. If you made the decision to leave for reasons not purely salary, just go. They obviously didn’t think you were worth the pay before, so likely don’t when they are paying it to you later.
Agree. I have done that before, only to constantly wonder why the employer undervalued me to begin with. As I look back on my career, I never got enough of a salary bump from my old to match the jobs to warrant me not moving to another company.

My boss now is just a mean, tyrannical SOB. I'd quit him in a New York minute given the chance.

I dare you to march right up to the mirror and tell him that.🤯🤬

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

driver100 said:
Wouldn't this kind of tow truck like they use in Europe make more sense? They don't have to get in front of the car, and it can move any kind of car and transmission configuration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ogzmCDA4P0

Might be a problem if there are low overhead wires or street side trees.

snakeweasel · September 2020

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer.
jmonroe
Don't come near me or my car with your ball pean hammer.

Why not? After a few minutes with the ball peen hammer no one would notice that small dent.

roadburner · September 2020

For those of you who don't follow the CCBA topic, my son and I attended a half day BMW M driving event at Kentucky Speedway. We participated in a autocross, drag race, and we were able to get some laps on the tri-oval(although not nearly as fast as we wanted).

As usual I was mediocre at the autocross, but the M2C is just way too much fun.

The drag race was interesting. You also had to stop at the end within a “stop box” to win. The cars were Competition versions of the X5 M, X6 M, M8, and M2. I won two drag races and my son won another.

Lapping the tri-oval was a lead-follow exercise. All the cars were M8C coupes, Gran Coupes, and convertibles.

We were lucky to see 115 mph; we had a real slow poke in our group. I did get a couple of laps behind the instructor but we left the timid folks behind and had to slow down so that they could catch up. My son didn’t have any better luck.

It was a lot of fun-and even better-it was free!

tjc78 · September 2020

Sounds like a really fun day!

jmonroe1 · September 2020

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer.
jmonroe
Don't come near me or my car with your ball pean hammer.

I’ll think it over. Not sure which deserves it more. Maybe I should call for a vote from your poster buddies.

jmonroe

jmonroe1 · September 2020

sb55 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer. If you want to know which end to use, just ask.

jmonroe

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but I used to work in the metal business. It's ball "peen" hammer. (Or apparently you can also spell it "pein"). Definition here:
Peen may refer to: Part of the head of a hammer, as in a ball-peen hammer (also ball-pein ,or ball and pein) Peening, the working of metal by hammering. Peening (scythe blade), peening a scythe or sickle blade as a step in sharpening it.

You are a not-picker. I noticed that after I made my post. The spell-checker in here needs some work. In any case do you think our poster buddy knows the difference or even cares? He’s calling “The Guy” anyway.

jmonroe

driver100 · September 2020

sb55 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer. If you want to know which end to use, just ask.

jmonroe

Sorry to be a nit-picker, but I used to work in the metal business. It's ball "peen" hammer. (Or apparently you can also spell it "pein"). Definition here:
Peen may refer to: Part of the head of a hammer, as in a ball-peen hammer (also ball-pein ,or ball and pein) Peening, the working of metal by hammering. Peening (scythe blade), peening a scythe or sickle blade as a step in sharpening it.

Thanks sb55....that is one reason I don't want him coming near my car with his ball whatever hammer!

driver100 · September 2020

How about a new 2021 Jeep Wagoneer.......there should be models with wood sides too;

driver100 · September 2020

This is really cool. It is called American Cars Party Tricks....little inventions you may remember and may not. Part 1 is 4 minutes, if you like it part 2 comes up....about 3 minutes. Great memories......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgTSJXwpe9Y&feature=youtu.be

sda · September 2020

I took the TL to my trusted Honda dealer to replace the evap solenoid which was causing the CEL to light. When they called to say it was ready for pick up the Advisor asked was the VSA (stability control) light on? What?? It has never been on. Well they reset the light. Coincidence or a screw up? My daughter drove it home, about 15 miles and no warning lights. Hopefully all is well.

cdnpinhead · September 2020

jmonroe1 said:
In any case do you think our poster buddy knows the difference or even cares?

After that dilemma fiasco a few years ago, anything's possible.

jmonroe1 · September 2020

sda said:
I took the TL to my trusted Honda dealer to replace the evap solenoid which was causing the CEL to light. When they called to say it was ready for pick up the Advisor asked was the VSA (stability control) light on? What?? It has never been on. Well they reset the light. Coincidence or a screw up? My daughter drove it home, about 15 miles and no warning lights. Hopefully all is well.

That’s the problem with taking your car in for service. While they may fix problem A, they can screw up B and C. Check your lug nuts before leaving their lot if there is any chance they had to work around your wheels.

jmonroe

omarman · September 2020

The things I recall most are American Car Dirty Tricks of the 70s. Rear windows that cannot be opened. Getting a 6.6 Olds 403 in a Trans Am instead of the real 6.6 Pontiac 400 engine which everybody wanted both then and now. And the general criticism from car buyers of that era: "Pay more and get less."

I've heard many anecdotes about cars assembled with different trim on the right/left sides yet that kind of thing happened back in the 50s too. But how could any car from another era match the Ford Granada with an example of Job #1 Quality like this:

It wasn't all bad but it was bad enough that imports could exploit domestic market weakness like never before.

driver100 said:
This is really cool. It is called American Cars Party Tricks....little inventions you may remember and may not. Part 1 is 4 minutes, if you like it part 2 comes up....about 3 minutes. Great memories......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgTSJXwpe9Y&feature=youtu.be

sda · September 2020

I ordered a cabin filter for the Accord and TL and an air filter for the Accord, Denso brand that is often OE for Honda. $29 total including shipping. The dealer wants $50 for just the cabin filter. The cabin filter is the same for the TL and Accord. For grins I checked the 2.4 18 TLX, and it also uses the same cabin and air Filter as the 2.4 Accord.

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

snakeweasel said:

driver100 said:

jmonroe1 said:

driver100 said:

stickguy said:

driver100 said:
Thanks for the info stick....have to get started on getting it done.
That raises a question though.....can a guy that comes to the house do just as good a job?
Yes. They travel with their tools and it’s really pretty basic. And assortment of wedges and pry tools, and some bright lights. A shop is really not needed.
Sounds good....I'll see if I can find a "Dent Guy".
I have a ball pean hammer.
jmonroe
Don't come near me or my car with your ball pean hammer.
Why not? After a few minutes with the ball peen hammer no one would notice that small dent.

I passed a silver Audi yesterday that looked like an angry girlfriend had gone the entire length of the driver’s side with a hammer. I doubt “the guy” could get them all out.

Maybe this would work.

https://youtu.be/J79uO_H0kzo

oldfarmer50 · September 2020

OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

stickguy · September 2020

sda said:
I ordered a cabin filter for the Accord and TL and an air filter for the Accord, Denso brand that is often OE for Honda. $29 total including shipping. The dealer wants $50 for just the cabin filter. The cabin filter is the same for the TL and Accord. For grins I checked the 2.4 18 TLX, and it also uses the same cabin and air Filter as the 2.4 Accord.

that reminds me. I need to check to see what the new RDX takes. Last time I did the old RDX I got a 2 pack of cabin filters and have 1 left. Pretty sure it fits the TLX but likely won't ever bother with that. Unless it doesn't work in the new RDX in which case I throw it in the TLX anyway.

stickguy · September 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
OK, here’s something I tried today. I’ve been watching videos on rust prevention and was intrigued by the possibility of getting protection by spraying oil into the door bottoms and rockers. The theory is that by coating areas where water and salt might accumulate you can retard the rusting process.

So this morning I stuck the wand on a can of WD-40 into the drain holes of all the doors on my Kia and sprayed until I saw it dripping out. I then pried the sill covers off and shot some more into the rocker voids. Interestingly, I hadn't been able to see any drains for the rockers but sure enough the oil found it’s way out.

I figure I’ll repeat the process once a year before winter.

So what do you think? Good, bad, waste of time? You have to realize I’ve never junked a vehicle because it broke mechanically. They all died of road cancer.

if it makes you happy, unlikely it can hurt. but that should all be treated in some way so theoretically won't rust.

simple solution, don't live in the salted road capital of the world.

sda · September 2020

stickguy said:

sda said:
I ordered a cabin filter for the Accord and TL and an air filter for the Accord, Denso brand that is often OE for Honda. $29 total including shipping. The dealer wants $50 for just the cabin filter. The cabin filter is the same for the TL and Accord. For grins I checked the 2.4 18 TLX, and it also uses the same cabin and air Filter as the 2.4 Accord.
that reminds me. I need to check to see what the new RDX takes. Last time I did the old RDX I got a 2 pack of cabin filters and have 1 left. Pretty sure it fits the TLX but likely won't ever bother with that. Unless it doesn't work in the new RDX in which case I throw it in the TLX anyway.

Which ELS system sounds better, MDX or TLX and why? If it was just you which of those two would you prefer to own?

stickguy · September 2020

RDX has extra speakers I think. In the ceiling. But they sound similar. I don’t normally crank them up that much anyway. Plus the RDX is a big box.

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