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stickguy · October 2020

mjfloyd1 said:
Why should you feel bad about it? You sold when it was the right time. For all you knew, prices could have continued to rise and they would have made out like bandits.

Sometimes you’re the windshield and sometimes you’re the bug.

Oh, I don’t care about Carvana. They made the offer so they have to live with it.

I feel guilty to the car, that it’s sitting on some lot, without an owner to love it.

stickguy · October 2020

andres3 said:

stickguy said:
2019. Low miles. Sharp looking. Hope it sells soon. I feel guilty about it.

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1539595
You can feel guilty when it goes below your sale price and you buy it back!

That’s not happening. If I had wanted to buy it, I would have bought it out myself cheaper.

pensfan83 · October 2020

ab348 said:
The TLX was an '18 model, @stickguy ? They might be buying it a birthday card.

Mine was an '18 with very low miles so the dealer CPO'd it and stuck it on their lot with a very optimistic price. I checked about a month ago and it was gone so I guess they found a ~~sucker~~ very nice buyer to take it home.

stickguy · October 2020

I'm surprised it did not sell being so nice, but only because the market seemed crazy at the time. I did think it was a bit overpriced, competing with any remaining 2020 leftovers.

breld · October 2020

Maybe this is finally the start of the normalizing of pricing that everyone is anticipating at year-end.

stickguy · October 2020

maybe. The fact that the economy (and stock market) are reversing again (and no pending stimulus) could be tanking it too.

I assume much of the spike was pent up demand from the months where you couldn't really get a car, but with so many people driving less now, quite possible that demand has been sated.

breld · October 2020

You timed it so well, getting rid of the TLX at peak prices when you didn't need to replace it.

stickguy · October 2020

I am way ahead of the game. I got cash out (covered my DAS and at least 1 payment), and out of any potential dispo fee next year (not figuring to be leasing another acura). And have now banked 2 payments I think.

and considering in almost 2 months, I have not had any need for a 2nd car so really would have barely touched it, it did work out perfectly. I also don't expect that our needs will change before year end (wife won't be going back to her office until at least end of Q1 at this point) so should easily be able to stretch into next year, pocketing the savings. And if I really suddenly needed another new car, I could go lease something for a lower payment sign and drive, and not be any worse off.

au1994 · October 2020

stickguy said:
I am way ahead of the game. I got cash out (covered my DAS and at least 1 payment), and out of any potential dispo fee next year (not figuring to be leasing another acura). And have now banked 2 payments I think.

and considering in almost 2 months, I have not had any need for a 2nd car so really would have barely touched it, it did work out perfectly. I also don't expect that our needs will change before year end (wife won't be going back to her office until at least end of Q1 at this point) so should easily be able to stretch into next year, pocketing the savings. And if I really suddenly needed another new car, I could go lease something for a lower payment sign and drive, and not be any worse off.

I wish I would have had your patience. I could have banked the $1400 profit and 3 payments on the Crosstrek now. I too will not be going back regularly until after January it looks like.

True we are enjoying the extra room of the Land Cruiser and its comfort on road trips, if I would have held out for a year end deal I would have banked over 3k counting insurance savings over these last few months. I honestly can’t think of a single time when only having one car would have been a problem. Heck we probably would have saved even more since I couldn’t make random trips to the grocery store to pick up this and that!

oldfarmer50 · October 2020

roadburner said:
So my Cincinnati dealer received a 2017 M2; three pedals and the Executive Package. 25k miles. White, but I could add the M Performance stripe kit to amp the appearance up a bit.
Then I saw the Carfax; FIVE owners- starting in Hawaii.
No thanks.

Maybe they were all intimidated by it’s performance.

oldfarmer50 · October 2020

stickguy said:
2019. Low miles. Sharp looking. Hope it sells soon. I feel guilty about it.

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1539595

It’s those black wheels that’s holding it back.

stickguy · October 2020

au1994 said:

stickguy said:
I am way ahead of the game. I got cash out (covered my DAS and at least 1 payment), and out of any potential dispo fee next year (not figuring to be leasing another acura). And have now banked 2 payments I think.

and considering in almost 2 months, I have not had any need for a 2nd car so really would have barely touched it, it did work out perfectly. I also don't expect that our needs will change before year end (wife won't be going back to her office until at least end of Q1 at this point) so should easily be able to stretch into next year, pocketing the savings. And if I really suddenly needed another new car, I could go lease something for a lower payment sign and drive, and not be any worse off.
I wish I would have had your patience. I could have banked the $1400 profit and 3 payments on the Crosstrek now. I too will not be going back regularly until after January it looks like.

True we are enjoying the extra room of the Land Cruiser and its comfort on road trips, if I would have held out for a year end deal I would have banked over 3k counting insurance savings over these last few months. I honestly can’t think of a single time when only having one car would have been a problem. Heck we probably would have saved even more since I couldn’t make random trips to the grocery store to pick up this and that!

that is a bit different. a rare car you have to get when it appears. I would do that if something I dreamed about fell in my lap. But not a new car I don't need!

oldfarmer50 · October 2020

breld said:
You timed it so well, getting rid of the TLX at peak prices when you didn't need to replace it.

I thought any of you guys who sold at the top of the market were brilliant. I think by now the ship has sailed or at least is casting off from the dock. I regret that I didn’t have any desireable cars to sell that I could do without to sell.

ab348 · October 2020

oldfarmer50 said:

stickguy said:
2019. Low miles. Sharp looking. Hope it sells soon. I feel guilty about it.

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1539595
It’s those black wheels that’s holding it back.

I think they're actually graphite grey, and at least they are glossy. I have come to be able to tolerate gloss black wheels, but ones that are a matte finish are no-go for me.

On the plus side, I notice this one has two key fobs.

stickguy · October 2020

almost makes up for missing out on the TDI buyback windfalls.

Rare for me to be on the right side of a situation like this!

stickguy · October 2020

Hoovie got a car Fintail should have jumped on!

corvette · October 2020

stickguy said:
Hoovie got a car Fintail should have jumped on!

It will be for sale soon enough... Plus, at that point, it will have probably been fully sorted by the Weezard.

stickguy · October 2020

I would buy one that had the weezard magic worked on it.

I predict this one needs motor mounts and Guibos. And probably a few random leaks fixed and worn out parts replaced.

but it does sound cool with the side exhaust.

greg128 · October 2020

stickguy said:
2019. Low miles. Sharp looking. Hope it sells soon. I feel guilty about it.

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/1539595

Why is has the basic warranty expired as stated in the listing? I thought Acura has a 4 year

stickguy · October 2020

it does. BtoB goes through 12/2022 or 50K miles. then 2 years powertrain.

must be a data entry goof.

Michaell · October 2020

Member needs help understand sales tax when trading in a lease with positive equity:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/63725/bmw/x/sales-tax-credit-applicable#latest

stickguy · October 2020

I threw in my opinion.

Michaell · October 2020

stickguy said:
I threw in my opinion.

Much appreciated.

graphicguy · October 2020

mjfloyd1 said:

roadburner said:
So my Cincinnati dealer received a 2017 M2; three pedals and the Executive Package. 25k miles. White, but I could add the M Performance stripe kit to amp the appearance up a bit.
Then I saw the Carfax; FIVE owners- starting in Hawaii.
No thanks.
CarGurus ad says three owners but when you click on north Cincinnati dealer ad and carfax it shows five owners. Looks like really low miles in Hawaii and the last owner in Maryland put more miles on it.

College friend has lived on the Big Island in HI for 35 years. Moved there after graduation on a whim. Never looked back.

Only downside, is what they call Island fever. Even on the Big Island, you can cover its entire road mass in an afternoon. Of course, each view along the way is stunningly beautiful. So, there’s that consolation.

ab348 · October 2020

graphicguy said:

mjfloyd1 said:

roadburner said:
So my Cincinnati dealer received a 2017 M2; three pedals and the Executive Package. 25k miles. White, but I could add the M Performance stripe kit to amp the appearance up a bit.
Then I saw the Carfax; FIVE owners- starting in Hawaii.
No thanks.
CarGurus ad says three owners but when you click on north Cincinnati dealer ad and carfax it shows five owners. Looks like really low miles in Hawaii and the last owner in Maryland put more miles on it.
College friend has lived on the Big Island in HI for 35 years. Moved there after graduation on a whim. Never looked back.

Only downside, is what they call Island fever. Even on the Big Island, you can cover its entire road mass in an afternoon. Of course, each view along the way is stunningly beautiful. So, there’s that consolation.

My brother and his family have visited the Big Island for a week or two on a couple of different occasions. What you say is exactly what they said. The last time they went 2 or 3 years ago they were a bit troubled by what they saw among some of the locals, and didn't feel as safe as they had on the first trip.

graphicguy · October 2020

ab348 said:

graphicguy said:

mjfloyd1 said:

roadburner said:
So my Cincinnati dealer received a 2017 M2; three pedals and the Executive Package. 25k miles. White, but I could add the M Performance stripe kit to amp the appearance up a bit.
Then I saw the Carfax; FIVE owners- starting in Hawaii.
No thanks.
CarGurus ad says three owners but when you click on north Cincinnati dealer ad and carfax it shows five owners. Looks like really low miles in Hawaii and the last owner in Maryland put more miles on it.
College friend has lived on the Big Island in HI for 35 years. Moved there after graduation on a whim. Never looked back.

Only downside, is what they call Island fever. Even on the Big Island, you can cover its entire road mass in an afternoon. Of course, each view along the way is stunningly beautiful. So, there’s that consolation.
My brother and his family have visited the Big Island for a week or two on a couple of different occasions. What you say is exactly what they said. The last time they went 2 or 3 years ago they were a bit troubled by what they saw among some of the locals, and didn't feel as safe as they had on the first trip.

Yeah...some locals (those who are descended from the Monarchy) are quite vocal about their displeasure with those who aren’t “native”. Kinda silly, really, given the U.S. is made up of a hodge pudge of people of different lineages.

That said, there are a lot of natives who own a lot of very valuable land, and have for generations. So, they wield a bit of power in doing so. The vast majority like being a part of the U.S.A., for no other reason than they would be in a constant state of attack if they were left to defend themselves.

My friend has a small house (2BR, 1 Full Bath, 900 sq ft) near a private beach. Bought it for the “outrageous” sum of $230K in the mid ‘80s. It’s now worth around $2M.

oldfarmer50 · October 2020

ab348 said:

graphicguy said:

mjfloyd1 said:

roadburner said:
So my Cincinnati dealer received a 2017 M2; three pedals and the Executive Package. 25k miles. White, but I could add the M Performance stripe kit to amp the appearance up a bit.
Then I saw the Carfax; FIVE owners- starting in Hawaii.
No thanks.
CarGurus ad says three owners but when you click on north Cincinnati dealer ad and carfax it shows five owners. Looks like really low miles in Hawaii and the last owner in Maryland put more miles on it.
College friend has lived on the Big Island in HI for 35 years. Moved there after graduation on a whim. Never looked back.

Only downside, is what they call Island fever. Even on the Big Island, you can cover its entire road mass in an afternoon. Of course, each view along the way is stunningly beautiful. So, there’s that consolation.
My brother and his family have visited the Big Island for a week or two on a couple of different occasions. What you say is exactly what they said. The last time they went 2 or 3 years ago they were a bit troubled by what they saw among some of the locals, and didn't feel as safe as they had on the first trip.

The Hawaii tourists see is a fantasy. We went there on our honeymoon in 1976. Our tour guide was a big local guy who was as friendly as could be. One day we walked into the lobby of a nearby hotel to witness him beating the heck out of some stranger with whom he’d had an altercation. Totally different picture.

oldfarmer50 · October 2020

For the guys who didn’t strike while the iron was hot......

xwesx · October 2020

oldfarmer50 said:
For the guys who didn’t strike while the iron was hot......

don't know why, but I really enjoyed the video. Good information with a... what, "real?" "wholesome?" presentation. It resonated, and is one of the few 15-minute YouTube videos I think I let play all the way through without skipping around.

stickguy · October 2020

I liked it too. And pointed out what I am surprised is still something dealers do. Just like the market is what it is when you want to trade in (and it does not matter what you paid or what you owe), what the dealer paid for a unit at some point of time, has nothing to do with what it is worth today. They just don't seem to be able to accept it!

maybe the people that needed used cars got them. New, a lot of dealers seem to be down on supply. I went by my local Ford dealer today (a stand alone "mom and pop" store, not part of any auto mall) that usually has their side lot (not all that big) full, with lots of PUs (of course). Today, it looked like they had the remaining stock all spread out to not make it look 1/2 empty.

I happened to just look at my Acura dealer. Down to 7 2020 TLXs left (and that does not account for the usual lag in updating online) so they did a pretty good job getting rid of the old models before the new style took over.

stickguy · October 2020

this popped up on cars and bids. I love it. Already doing well, and I suspect it will end up getting to be quite a bit higher. Looks super clean. An old guy near me has one, but it is a red base model (5 speed though) and looks really worn and beat. But still funky.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9aQPb67m/1994-honda-civic-del-sol-si

nyccarguy · October 2020

stickguy said:
this popped up on cars and bids. I love it. Already doing well, and I suspect it will end up getting to be quite a bit higher. Looks super clean. An old guy near me has one, but it is a red base model (5 speed though) and looks really worn and beat. But still funky.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9aQPb67m/1994-honda-civic-del-sol-si

Didn’t they make a Del Sol “VTEC” model as well?

corvette · October 2020

nyccarguy said:

stickguy said:
this popped up on cars and bids. I love it. Already doing well, and I suspect it will end up getting to be quite a bit higher. Looks super clean. An old guy near me has one, but it is a red base model (5 speed though) and looks really worn and beat. But still funky.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9aQPb67m/1994-honda-civic-del-sol-si
Didn’t they make a Del Sol “VTEC” model as well?

I think S, Si, and VTEC were the available trim levels. That one looks sharp, though. I don't remember that being a factory color. I know they had white, black, red, and (I think) teal.

qbrozen · October 2020

I seem to recall yellow, too. Maybe depends on the year. Teal does sound familiar.

breld · October 2020

Boy, that Del Sol, year, color and trim, is exactly what I was set on getting when I graduated college.

I got swayed by a slightly used ‘93 Prelude Si instead. No regrets there.

tjc78 · November 2020

breld said:
Boy, that Del Sol, year, color and trim, is exactly what I was set on getting when I graduated college.

I got swayed by a slightly used ‘93 Prelude Si instead. No regrets there.

The Prelude purchase ensured your man card was kept intact.

tjc78 · November 2020

qbrozen said:
I seem to recall yellow, too. Maybe depends on the year. Teal does sound familiar.

It was the 90s. I’m sure a teal was available!

ab348 · November 2020

breld said:
Boy, that Del Sol, year, color and trim, is exactly what I was set on getting when I graduated college.

I got swayed by a slightly used ‘93 Prelude Si instead. No regrets there.

The Del Sol seems (strangely) to be one of the few Hondas of that era not universally beloved by the fan base.

My assistant had one maybe 10 years ago. I thought she would love it but she ended up dumping it after just a year or so.

oldfarmer50 · November 2020

stickguy said:
this popped up on cars and bids. I love it. Already doing well, and I suspect it will end up getting to be quite a bit higher. Looks super clean. An old guy near me has one, but it is a red base model (5 speed though) and looks really worn and beat. But still funky.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/9aQPb67m/1994-honda-civic-del-sol-si

I remember liking those back in the day although I always doubted that I could actually fit in one.

stickguy · November 2020

honestly not sure I have ever sat in one. I know I had plenty of room in a CRX

breld · November 2020

When the Del Sol came out for 1993, it was obviously meant to be the successor to the highly regarded CRX. I think it took a year or two for everyone to realize it didn’t live up to its predecessor. As cool as this one is on Cars & Bids, it already seems to be a bit overpriced IMO - but any Honda from that era with low miles is going to garner attention.

A bright green was a release color for that 1993 model, and it was used for the marketing. A teal was indeed available in later model years. And a dark green was made available on the VTEC model in the later years. That VTEC model, with somewhere around 160 hp, would probably be the one model that would be very desirable.

Michaell · November 2020

Opinions sought:

https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/63761/general/x/which-one#latest

graphicguy · November 2020

My ex-bro-in-law had a DelSol VTEC. Bunches of fun. Not very roomy, but more or less followed the Honda heyday in the '90s of making fun vehicles that were small, high revers and easy to toss around. Too bad no one appreciates those kinds of cars anymore.

xwesx · November 2020

tjc78 said:

breld said:
Boy, that Del Sol, year, color and trim, is exactly what I was set on getting when I graduated college.

I got swayed by a slightly used ‘93 Prelude Si instead. No regrets there.
The Prelude purchase ensured your man card was kept intact.

If only just barely....

28firefighter · November 2020

This would be a nice winter beater....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2010-bmw-x3-3-0-6-speed-manual/

au1994 · November 2020

That’s actually pretty clean underneath for a NY car.

xwesx · November 2020

Clearly, folks are not lined up to own that one!

explorerx4 · November 2020

My favorite 911 color.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1977-porsche-911s-32/

kyfdx · November 2020

28firefighter said:
This would be a nice winter beater....

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2010-bmw-x3-3-0-6-speed-manual/

Really nice... The six speed automatic on that model was not the best one they ever had, so the stick is even more desirable. '07-'10 models are relatively fast. One of BMW's best straight sixes. Our '08 was the same color, but with gray interior.

Damage on the Carfax?

stickguy · November 2020

Lovely 911. I would not mind having that one. So neat also to see such small wheels and tires on a real sports car. The good old days!

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