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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,008

    mjfloyd1 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    45 years ago this very night the Edmund Fitzgerald sailed into history.

    And became a delicious beer.
    I notice a lot of things on this discussion end up referencing beer. LOL

    .....................or appliances ;)
    ...................where beer is kept.🤣
    .......full circle....back to beer! :D
    I may need an intervention. I went to pick up salmon dinners last night and came back with 12 bottles of Pinot Noir and 12 bottles of Cabernet Sauvignon and three bottles of cask strength Makers Mark...as well as the salmon dinners
    My dinner plans went sideways last night. For about 30 minutes before I left to get take out I heard constant sirens and emergency vehicles rushing down the road.

    The problem was that a bunch of rubberneckers had parked on the bridge to get a look. They were running in traffic to get the best view. I almost clocked one as he ran blindly in front of me. Traffic detouring from the site started coming up our little road and I had to back up at the next intersection as a big garbage hauler tried to make the sharp turn.
    .
    Sounds like a scene out of Chicago Fire or something....are sure they weren't filming?

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    cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,511
    Conventional (by which I mean 40 year old technology) mattress systems are on borrowed time. The new stuff is so much cheaper and perfectly comfortable, in my opinion. That said, I still have a water bed down in the valley. I've never had a "real" mattress in my life. Go figure.
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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    edited November 2020



    That 3.0L twin turbo is screaming fast for an obsolete car. What do the other brands have that are superior? A different radio knob or better cell phone interface? While a lot of Nissan products haven’t been updated for a while, sometime I think reviewers nit pick to justify their existence.

    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,733
    when my daughter was moving the last time, she no longer had a bed (the old one got left behind in her breakup). so, we did some research (some comparisons, and a lot of Amazon review reading). The brand we picked was highly regarded, and was on a big sale. and the bed frame she liked was quite affordable, and when we got it, was very well made and substantial. One piece was about $100, and the other one $200. But the whole set, delivered to the house, was not much over $300. She was on a budget, and was not all that picky.

    Turned out to be very comfortable. I liked it too when I tried it out. So when my son bought his house, he got the same mattress (different but similar frame) for his guest room. And after sleeping on the 3-4 nights, I could live with one for my everyday bed.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,021
    edited November 2020

    The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.

    well, to be fair, as far as this stat, the RS is already 5 yrs old, so not like it is so much newer than your car, and it obviously is not intended to be a competitor 2’er. You’d have to look at the M340. Now THAT car blows the RS off the road.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,163
    After my bad experience with a TempurPedic I am pretty turned off by foam mattresses. I look on them as similar to one-size-fits-all clothing, or shoes made only in medium widths. If it happens to work for you as part of the majority, great, but if you have any special requirements they will not be for you.

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,993
    edited November 2020



    That 3.0L twin turbo is screaming fast for an obsolete car. What do the other brands have that are superior? A different radio knob or better cell phone interface? While a lot of Nissan products haven’t been updated for a while, sometime I think reviewers nit pick to justify their existence.

    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.
    One thing you forgot. Those cars all may have similar MSRPs, but you will pay much less for the Q50. They are heavily discounted. For some the slight loss of driving dynamics and outdated tech isn’t a big deal when you are saving thousands.

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,008
    ab348 said:

    After my bad experience with a TempurPedic I am pretty turned off by foam mattresses. I look on them as similar to one-size-fits-all clothing, or shoes made only in medium widths. If it happens to work for you as part of the majority, great, but if you have any special requirements they will not be for you.

    I guess I am normal then....I love our TempurPedic! :p

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,008
    tjc78 said:



    That 3.0L twin turbo is screaming fast for an obsolete car. What do the other brands have that are superior? A different radio knob or better cell phone interface? While a lot of Nissan products haven’t been updated for a while, sometime I think reviewers nit pick to justify their existence.

    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.
    One thing you forgot. Those cars all may have similar MSRPs, but you will pay much less for the Q50. They are heavily discounted. For some the slight loss of driving dynamics and outdated tech isn’t a big deal when you are saving thousands.
    Excellent point tjc....but, I wonder, what about resale value? Will it hold its value as much as an Audi, BMW etc., and if it is 5 years old technologically now....what will it be like in 4, 5 or 6 years? It might be a hard car to trade-in. Especially if it gets traded in early, which happened here.

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    edited November 2020
    qbrozen said:

    The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.

    well, to be fair, as far as this stat, the RS is already 5 yrs old, so not like it is so much newer than your car, and it obviously is not intended to be a competitor 2’er. You’d have to look at the M340. Now THAT car blows the RS off the road.
    I was just pointing out that any Q50 isn't exceptionally quick. And yes, the M340 is on an entirely different level.

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    edited November 2020
    tjc78 said:


    One thing you forgot. Those cars all may have similar MSRPs, but you will pay much less for the Q50. They are heavily discounted. For some the slight loss of driving dynamics and outdated tech isn’t a big deal when you are saving thousands.

    I'll agree 100% concerning the German competitors(in which case I'd still take a 2019 CPO 330i M Sport over a new Q50). However, in the case of the G70 and Stinger GT2 I'd bet you could pick one up for the same price as a discounted Q50- if not for less- and either is a much better drive than a Q50.
    If I'm paying north of $45k for a sports sedan, it darn well better have excellent driving dynamics and up-to-date tech, but to each his own.

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    Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
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    graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,670
    edited November 2020

    I've seen a drastic increase in Ohio State Patrol activity on the interstates. They seem to be using active patrolling where they try to slip up on a speeder or someone committing a driving error. Rarely now do I see them sitting waiting for someone to fall into their laser or radar cone.

    Saw several today making the journey to IKEA near GG-land.

    You were just a few minutes from my humble abode. You could have stopped by for a Modelo or a Basil Hayden!

    I could have given you a tour of my new Washer and Dryer.
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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,773
    driver100 said:

    mjfloyd1 said:

    driver100 said:

    driver100 said:

    45 years ago this very night the Edmund Fitzgerald sailed into history.

    And became a delicious beer.
    I notice a lot of things on this discussion end up referencing beer. LOL

    .....................or appliances ;)
    ...................where beer is kept.🤣
    .......full circle....back to beer! :D
    I may need an intervention. I went to pick up salmon dinners last night and came back with 12 bottles of Pinot Noir and 12 bottles of Cabernet Sauvignon and three bottles of cask strength Makers Mark...as well as the salmon dinners
    My dinner plans went sideways last night. For about 30 minutes before I left to get take out I heard constant sirens and emergency vehicles rushing down the road.

    The problem was that a bunch of rubberneckers had parked on the bridge to get a look. They were running in traffic to get the best view. I almost clocked one as he ran blindly in front of me. Traffic detouring from the site started coming up our little road and I had to back up at the next intersection as a big garbage hauler tried to make the sharp turn.
    .
    Sounds like a scene out of Chicago Fire or something....are sure they weren't filming?

    It was more like one of those hidden video comedy shows where they hire people to do idiotic things for laughs.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,773



    That 3.0L twin turbo is screaming fast for an obsolete car. What do the other brands have that are superior? A different radio knob or better cell phone interface? While a lot of Nissan products haven’t been updated for a while, sometime I think reviewers nit pick to justify their existence.

    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.
    I wasn’t timing the one I drove but it sure felt as if it took off like a scalded dog. Maybe the turbo kick made it feel faster off the line.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,733
    5 sec 0-60 is fast. I’d bet that 99% of people would never use all of that anyway.

    As farmer said, it moves quick whenever you need it to.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,163
    If I was in that market I wouldn't consider an Infiniti anything-model, because it's Nissan, because they haven't been investing in the brand, because they don't seem to know what to do with it, because the company is in constant turmoil, and because who knows what the future will hold for all of it.

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    I must be in that 1%...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-2021 Sahara 4xe-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
    Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,253
    Heck, my car is sub-5 seconds, too (4.6 at 40K miles per C&D). Did I mention it's a 4300lb AWD station wagon with a stand up hood ornament? Kind of a sleeper, maybe.



    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,253
    My sister has a foam mattress in her spare bedroom - no doubt much cheaper than a TempurPedic. It's very "warm" - maybe nice in a cold room, but when the heat is always on in that house, takes a long time to fall asleep. It's also quite soft.

    I have a Serta iSeries 2000, which is a hybrid. The cooling works, and it is quite firm, which I find prevents overnight aches as I become more of a broken down old man. I also have a fancy adjustable base to complete that role.
    ab348 said:

    After my bad experience with a TempurPedic I am pretty turned off by foam mattresses. I look on them as similar to one-size-fits-all clothing, or shoes made only in medium widths. If it happens to work for you as part of the majority, great, but if you have any special requirements they will not be for you.

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,008
    fintail said:

    Heck, my car is sub-5 seconds, too (4.6 at 40K miles per C&D). Did I mention it's a 4300lb AWD station wagon with a stand up hood ornament? Kind of a sleeper, maybe.



    Screaming fast? Umm... no. 0-60 in 5.0 seconds is only a tenth of a second quicker than a G20 330i- which has a 2,0 liter single turbo four. The Red Sport does manage 4.5 seconds for the same sprint, but it's still a tick slower than my six year old M235i.
    Dynamically the Q50 lags far behind its competitors from Alfa, Audi, BMW, Cadillac, Genesis, Jaguar, Kia, Mercedes, and Volvo. Car and Driver ranks the Q50 at 17th in its class, and I'd be inclined to agree.
    It's not nit-picking, it's a fact. When I can have a 3er, a G70, or a Stinger GT2 for similar or less money the Q50 isn't even a tiny part of the discussion.

    I think we found my Sport model was .02 seconds faster....your hood ornament adds to the drag. :)

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,993

    I've seen a drastic increase in Ohio State Patrol activity on the interstates. They seem to be using active patrolling where they try to slip up on a speeder or someone committing a driving error. Rarely now do I see them sitting waiting for someone to fall into their laser or radar cone.

    Saw several today making the journey to IKEA near GG-land.

    You were just a few minutes from my humble abode. You could have stopped by for a Modelo or a Basil Hayden!

    I could have given you a tour of my new Washer and Dryer.
    Basil Hayden is good stuff, I'm almost out! I also really like the Four Roses Single Barrel.

    My new drink obsession is a take on an old fashioned from Capital Grille (They called in an In Fashion)

    Bourbon, splash of Grand Marnier, couple dashes of black walnut bitters and an Amarena cherry. So good. I made some for friends last night with the Four Roses and everyone went crazy for it.

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    jmonroe1jmonroe1 Member Posts: 7,666

    I must be in that 1%...

    But, are you in the top 1%?😎

    jmonroe

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,733
    someone has to be in the 1%. And unless it is the $ version, no company caters to you! Heck, I would have preferred our RDX with a manual trans, and I don't expect Acura to care that I am an outlier. Probably people out there that still don't like power windows and want cranks instead, and won't be getting them.

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    abacomikeabacomike Member Posts: 12,258
    driver100 said:

    ab348 said:

    After my bad experience with a TempurPedic I am pretty turned off by foam mattresses. I look on them as similar to one-size-fits-all clothing, or shoes made only in medium widths. If it happens to work for you as part of the majority, great, but if you have any special requirements they will not be for you.

    I guess I am normal then....I love our TempurPedic! :p
    I have a new TempurPedic mattress and adjustable bed frame for legs and head. I sleep great. I bought the upgraded mattress system and frame and selected the medium mattress. I paid $3,700 after a $800 discount and did not pay any sales tax because I had an RX from my doctor for my bad back.

    Remember, there are many models of mattresses and frames. Mind includes a night light and massage for head, back and legs.

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    graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,670
    edited November 2020
    Got the gear set up in an extra bedroom. Need to put up room treatments, do some cable management and decorate it as my music room.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,021
    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

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    sdasda Member Posts: 7,012
    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    Did you get the ML63 sorted out?

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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    edited November 2020
    Michaell said:

    We've used Wayfair for smaller items and accessories.

    Still use brick and mortar for larger furniture items like beds and sofas (Basset for our latest order).

    Us too. Bought a small wine cabinet and some end tables from Wayfair. Bathroom cabinets too. Mainly because such items at furniture stores are often way too large for our compact space. We’ve also had good luck with Pier 1 for barstools and chairs. Sofa, dining table and chairs, and bed we bought locally.
    We got rid of almost all our furniture when we moved across the country.
    I prefer a regular mattress myself.
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    MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 243,036
    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,993

    Got the gear set up in an extra bedroom. Need to put up room treatments, do some cable management and decorate it as my music room.

    https://share.icloud.com/photos/0t0n2l2Xw792JW38qg34HyQEQ#Home

    Nice! I'm going to setup some vintage stuff I have in my office once I finish the rest of this place!

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,163
    Michaell said:

    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

    My experience is that foam mattresses seem very comfortable when you try them out for a few minutes in a store and often even when you first get them home. But over time the the one I had got progressively softer, to the point where I was in pain from being bent into a pretzel when I woke up in the morning.

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,021
    sda said:

    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    Did you get the ML63 sorted out?
    Sure did. I sort of ignore the CEL and sort of check the oil before starting it. ;b

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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    edited November 2020
    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    I agree, but with cars in the same class I'll always pick the fastest car as long as it has commensurate handling and braking- which is why I'd go for a GT2 over a Q50 all day long. Ditto for a G70(V6). I'll take my 2er over an SUV that's just a bit quicker- especially since the CUV/SUV has become the "belly button" vehicle of the millennium.
    But I could be tempted by an X3 M Competition- just not over an M2C...

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,021

    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    I agree, but with cars in the same class I'll always pick the fastest car as long as it has commensurate handling and braking- which is why I'd go for a GT2 over a Q50 all day long. Ditto for a G70(V6). I'll take my 2er over an SUV that's just a bit quicker- especially since the CUV/SUV has become the "belly button" vehicle of the millennium.
    But I could be tempted by an X3 M Competition- just not over an M2C...
    I think focusing on numbers has led me down the wrong path before, so I'm going to try to avoid that in the future. My 135 is a pretty good example. Very fast and capable (when it was working), but lacked any real soul. I think I enjoyed my 350z more. It is very similar to the Charger vs ML. Even though totally different classes, it is kind of like something that makes you go "whoa, this is fast and nice" vs something that simply makes you grin.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,773
    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    If acceleration is your big desire you should buy a Tesla.

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    ab348ab348 Member Posts: 19,163
    qbrozen said:

    sda said:

    qbrozen said:

    As we all know, there is more to it than numbers. Not matter how much I explain the ML63 is significantly quicker than the Charger, the kids always want me to drive them in the Charger, numbers and comfort be damned. They prefer the Charger's noises, looks, and tire-smoking capability.

    Did you get the ML63 sorted out?
    Sure did. I sort of ignore the CEL and sort of check the oil before starting it. ;b
    Maybe that's why the kids insist you drive them around in the Charger. :wink:

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,733
    Michaell said:

    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

    If I had a dirty mind, I would read more into that than you likely intended.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,733
    the thing with numbers is, there are lots of them to pick from.

    0-60 is fine, but most people look at the cars magazines (since that is where you can find them). And they do whatever they have to to get the lowest number. revving his and dumping the clutch, brake torqueing the trans, etc. Basically drag racing techniques. Which almost nobody will do to their own car, and you really can't do from a stop light on local roads.

    that is why I like to look at the rolling start or 5-60 numbers (or consumers reports 0-60 since they test the way people normally drive). And when you eliminate the "abuse the car" starts, many "slow" cars are actually faster in real world use.

    IMO 30-70 is way more useful than 0-60 too.

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    oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 22,773
    stickguy said:

    the thing with numbers is, there are lots of them to pick from.

    0-60 is fine, but most people look at the cars magazines (since that is where you can find them). And they do whatever they have to to get the lowest number. revving his and dumping the clutch, brake torqueing the trans, etc. Basically drag racing techniques. Which almost nobody will do to their own car, and you really can't do from a stop light on local roads.

    that is why I like to look at the rolling start or 5-60 numbers (or consumers reports 0-60 since they test the way people normally drive). And when you eliminate the "abuse the car" starts, many "slow" cars are actually faster in real world use.

    IMO 30-70 is way more useful than 0-60 too.

    I agree. I’ve driven a lot of 4cyl that were impressive off the line but faded as you got to highway speeds.

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    kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 239,322
    Michaell said:

    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

    Are you sure you are on the same page about what this means? :p

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    driver100driver100 Member Posts: 32,008
    Michaell said:
    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.
    kyfdx said:

    Michaell said:

    Wife wants to go look at / test drive mattresses this weekend. We'll see how it goes.

    Are you sure you are on the same page about what this means? :p
    Try testing 0 to 60...let us know how it goes! :)

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    bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    stickguy said:

    5 sec 0-60 is fast. I’d bet that 99% of people would never use all of that anyway.

    As farmer said, it moves quick whenever you need it to.

    Hmm, that reminds of an Ausie joke that goes something like that. An Aussie farmer and a Texan farmer meet in a bar and start to have a yarn.

    The Texan boasts “back at my farm I can jump in my car straight after breakfast, drive around the property and only just make it back to the Ranch in time for dinner”

    The Aussie replies “yes mate, I used to have a car a bit like that too”
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    roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,433
    @graphicguy: What's your take on the Sony A9G? I love the OLED picture but I'm worried about image retention/burn-in. My Kuro Elite never had an issue with that but I've heard OLED panels are more susceptible to it- especially with static images and logos.

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    mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,307
    CNET says burn in is possible with OLED but not common with normal use. There is “image retention “ that goes away after a few minutes but it is not permanent. OLED blacks are great but brightness is not.
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    graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 13,670

    @graphicguy: What's your take on the Sony A9G? I love the OLED picture but I'm worried about image retention/burn-in. My Kuro Elite never had an issue with that but I've heard OLED panels are more susceptible to it- especially with static images and logos.

    The 9Gs are great OLED TVs. If I were in the market right now, that’s the one I’d be focusing on. Not sure how burn in has become an issue with OLEDs. Maybe the early ones had issues? I have heard of burn in, but never experienced or seen evidence of it. My oldest OLED is a curved LG, which is probably 4-5 years old. Not a spec of evidence of burn in. And, that’s the one that gets the most use in my den.

    I have tweaked mine for different duty. LGs have ISF calibrations out of the box. So, although I’ve tried, I can’t really better the picture of LGs ISF choices. There is one for bright rooms, that looks great. There’s one for dark rooms (which is the choice I use for my home theater), which I’ve tinkered with a lot, and still can’t better LGs ISF choice.

    @mjfloyd1 ...I like CNET’s reviews. But, I can’t for the life of me understand why/how they ended up with burn in issues. Again, maybe some earlier OLEDs? Not sure.

    I believe as long as you don’t use ticker tape broadcasts (like news casts), I think you’ll be fine.

    I’ve not had a Sony OLED in my home (which are really LG OLED panels with Sony signal processing). I’ve seen them in stores and they look good. After you get them home and set them up properly, I’ll assume they’ll look even better.

    Overall, I’ve liked Sony TVs for quite some time. I like my LGs, too!

    Bottom line, there are no wrong choices here.

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    bwiabwia Member Posts: 2,913
    edited November 2020

    @graphicguy: What's your take on the Sony A9G? I love the OLED picture but I'm worried about image retention/burn-in. My Kuro Elite never had an issue with that but I've heard OLED panels are more susceptible to it- especially with static images and logos.

    @roadburner, I wouldn't worry about the OLED burn-in problem of the past; it should not be a concern with newer TVs. According to the (YouTube) experts, you should worry more about fading colors rather than burn-in as Sony's enhanced technology minimizes static images on the screen.

    Besides, the Sony A9G OLED panels are made by LG and for best picture quality they recommend using professional calibration rather than a do-it-yourself approach. Enjoy!
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    mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,307
    How is your eye @graphicguy ?
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    tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,993
    edited November 2020
    I agree with the others. Burn in on those panels really don’t seem to be an issue.

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    If anything I’m not happy with is the projector mount. It’s not as robust as I had hoped and would like finer adjustments. I may swap it out at some point.

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    suydamsuydam Member Posts: 4,676
    I spent the day watching Dustin Johnson’s historic Masters win. Great performance!
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