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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    Meanwhile back in Blighty

    Sainsburys car park in Southampton Hampshire - youngest registration number appears to be V suffix gold Fiesta - August 1979 to July 1980


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    At right behind a Jeep Station Wagon that almost seems to resemble a hot rod, is a wide whitewalled W111 fintail. Just as good of a spot as a 60 Ford.
    magnette said:

    Britannic Motors in Boston MA has an appropriate vehicle in the window - they must have chosen it to fill the entire display

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    3rd row in, to the right of an Allegro, is a Datsun Cherry (wearing 2 "GB" rear stickers). Another Cherry in the row next to the building, 2 to the right of the white Mini.
    magnette said:

    Meanwhile back in Blighty

    Sainsburys car park in Southampton Hampshire - youngest registration number appears to be V suffix gold Fiesta - August 1979 to July 1980

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    magnette said:

    Britannic Motors in Boston MA has an appropriate vehicle in the window - they must have chosen it to fill the entire display



    This is the Boston area (Commonwealth Ave) where Herb Connolly is now the biggest dealer group representing a number of high volume makers. The car in front of Britannic Motors
    is an early '60s Buick Special wagon. I think the Caddy behind is a '61.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 266,289
    Is that a fintail behind the land cruiser?

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    Michaell said:

    Is that a fintail behind the land cruiser?

    See @fintail above, that’s a Jeep Station Wagon. I can’t say I’ve seen one before.

    On the last pic the only VW I see is a Gen 1 Scirocco. I’m surprised there aren’t other VWs.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,833
    Just watched a series on Netflix about the Yorkshire ripper. All the period footage was late 70s through early-mid 80s. So lots of stuff like what’s in that picture just posted.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    I think it's a Willys Jeep All-Steel Wagon. Ironically they were all made with faux wood ribs stamped into the side panels and painted to look like wood. I agree that its a fintail behind it and head of it is a 1st gen. Valiant/Lancer.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    edited December 2020
    andys120 said:




    This is the Boston area (Commonwealth Ave) where Herb Connolly is now the biggest dealer group representing a number of high volume makers. The car in front of Britannic Motors
    is an early '60s Buick Special wagon. I think the Caddy behind is a '61.

    I think you mean Herb Chambers.

    Nice early Land Rover in the Brittanic showroom, but I'll take the Coupe deVille parked outside, I believe a '62. Lovely styling on those.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,833
    I bet the LR is worth more!

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 269,291
    ab348 said:

    andys120 said:




    This is the Boston area (Commonwealth Ave) where Herb Connolly is now the biggest dealer group representing a number of high volume makers. The car in front of Britannic Motors
    is an early '60s Buick Special wagon. I think the Caddy behind is a '61.

    I think you mean Herb Chambers.

    Nice early Land Rover in the Brittanic showroom, but I'll take the Coupe deVille parked outside, I believe a '62. Lovely styling on those.
    It says Herb Connolly on the building, behind the Willys

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    In Boston, the Farina styled car is - for a change - not a BMC product but instead a proper Farina from old Italia..

    Fiat 1800 or possibly 2100 - circa 1961 onwards

    That old Jeep wagon is a rarity now too - I have seen a Willys Jeepster convertible from about 1954 (in America) but never one of those wagons.

    Also the Chevrolet next to the Fiat - is that a 63 model?

    The Land Rover would be an 88 - which refers to the wheelbase in inches - and would be Series II
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @texases

    Hi - I think there may be a VW Golf - the white car beyond the dark Volvo estate - initially I thought it was a Horizon but I think its a Golf.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    My bad, was thinking of Herb Chambers, not Herb Connolly.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @fintail

    The Southampton Sainsburys has a nice range of cars but nothing exceptional - although there are a couple of sixties ones there

    I hadn't noticed the two GB stickers on the Cherry - must be for decoration as only one required.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @stickguy

    Yes, the same period as that monster - I gather that a couple of weeks ago the Yorkshire Ripper - Sutcliffe - died in the prison hospital having refused treatment for the Covid infection...
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,161
    magnette said:

    @texases

    Hi - I think there may be a VW Golf - the white car beyond the dark Volvo estate - initially I thought it was a Horizon but I think its a Golf.

    Yep, you are correct.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Those Jeeps were actually badged "Station Wagon", maybe the only such car I have seen called a "station wagon" by official name:

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    There was also a "Station Sedan" variant.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    I see a couple of BMC ADO16 in the lot, and the car to the right of the "GB" Cherry is maybe a Morris Oxford?
    magnette said:

    @fintail

    The Southampton Sainsburys has a nice range of cars but nothing exceptional - although there are a couple of sixties ones there

    I hadn't noticed the two GB stickers on the Cherry - must be for decoration as only one required.

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    kyfdx said:


    It says Herb Connolly on the building, behind the Willys

    But that is not the name of biggest dealer group in the Boston area. As Andy noted later, Herb Chambers is the one. I remember seeing Herb actually appearing in TV commercials for his dealership group, though not for a number of years now.

    His wiki makes for interesting reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herb_Chambers

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    @fintail

    That grey car to the side of the GB Cherry is a Wolseley 1500 - it's probably the oldest car there but may have a rival in the maroon A40 below the Y in the store sign
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    This is in Washington - the town in County Durham in the North East, - possibly George's family came from there ?

    Nothing thrilling but a novelty car passing by... this must be early 60's


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Light colored sedan/saloon in the background behind a sports car could be a Humber?

    Novelty car appears to be a 3 wheeler with the single wheel at rear. I had to "cheat" a little, maybe a Frisky?
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    Stated to be from Montreal, late 1963 or 1964, from a Mopar FB group:




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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    I couldn't find any 1960 Fords :( but there's a '62 @ bottom left.
    Ponchos were always popular in Canada even though they had Chevy frames and motors, they are well represented.

    Oldest car is probably the '56 Chevy behind the snow-covered Ford. Newest? Perhaps the '64 Pontiac squeezed between the GMC bus and the Chevy/GMC pckup.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,833
    Lots of ramblers. The convert from and center must be rare.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    @fintail

    Yes, Washington is a New town established the late fifties for urban renewal in the Durham coalfield (which has all gone now) and the microcar is a Frisky.

    They made them with two rear wheels initially - like Isetta did - but the law in Britain required that if a car had four wheels it was taxed as a car and not three wheeler, whereas the latter was treated as a "motorcycle combination" -ie a Motorcycle and sidecar. The engine was either 250cc or 350cc for the four wheeled ones but the later three wheeler was only 250cc I think.

    That allowed it to be driven on a motorcycle licence and to pay less tax.

    Isetta and others didn't sell their cars here with four rear wheels either and Messerschmitt only sold the Tiger model as a four wheeler here as that was really a tandem sports car

    The other car is a Humber - either a Hawk or a Super Snipe
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    andys120 said:

    I couldn't find any 1960 Fords :(

    Are you sure? I think I spot one in the adjacent lane to the "Miracle" box truck, just slightly ahead of it.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    In Montreal - lots of different cars there but hard to see some details due to the snow

    I've enlarged the picture and I think following the 56 Chevrolet is a 61 Dodge closely followed by a 60 Pontiac

    Near us behind the convertible is a 61 Chrysler two-door - perhaps a Newport?

    I think I see a Vauxhall Victor (or Envoy) three back from the Chrysler
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414
    I agree that there’s a 60 Ford there!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Yep that's a 60 Ford to the right of the Miracle box truck. Lots of snow on the hood of that 62, it appears people could be lazy/goofy in the snow back in the olden days too :) I agree about the Victor/Envoy too.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    I had to research/cheat to find the Frisky, but I think I've heard of it. Surprised there were no 105E Anglias in the pic.
    magnette said:

    @fintail

    Yes, Washington is a New town established the late fifties for urban renewal in the Durham coalfield (which has all gone now) and the microcar is a Frisky.

    The other car is a Humber - either a Hawk or a Super Snipe

  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    It is surprising that there wasn't a Vauxhall either although the ice cream van to the left is a Bedford

    Somewhere in our attic I have a Spot On model of a Frisky - about 1/40th scale - they were a bit larger than the usual Dinky
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    This one was taken in Dublin - circa 1960 - and it's got four wheels


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    NSU Prinz? A handful made it over to this side of the pond.
    magnette said:

    This one was taken in Dublin - circa 1960 - and it's got four wheels


  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Kortrijk Belgium, 1962:

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    I definitely have never seen whatever that is in the right foreground before.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,833
    looks like a weird nose grill on a Karman Ghia

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    Yup the car in the foreground is a Karmann Ghia with an aftermarket trim piece, maybe to look it look like a more expensive car, as the pretty hardtop design was somewhat elegant and exotic. Note that it is an early "lowlight" model, a very rare car today.
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 835
    And, a 1952 Dodge.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    edited December 2020
    @fintail
    Yes - I think it's a Prinz II but am not sure.

    IX is one of the original codes issued by the UK government from 1903 (for County Longford) and continued in use despite the separation of Ireland and the declaration of the Republic in the south, until IX9999 was reached in February 1970 (Longford followed it up with AIX 1)
    I guess this car was from about 1958 or so.
  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    in Kortrijk the car crossing the picture is a 53 Dodge - it may be a taxi.
    The silver car next to the P / parking sign is a Ford Taunus P2 I think - perhaps a 17M from about 1958 /60
    To it's left the white car with the sloping rear window is a Peugeot 203 - late 50's
  • Lostwrench3Lostwrench3 Member Posts: 835
    But the side trim is wrong for a '53.
    I'll stick with its being a '52.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    fintail said:

    Yup the car in the foreground is a Karmann Ghia with an aftermarket trim piece, maybe to look it look like a more expensive car, as the pretty hardtop design was somewhat elegant and exotic. Note that it is an early "lowlight" model, a very rare car today.

    I'm not conversant with the difference between early/late Type 1 K-Gs can you enlighten me?

    Speaking of Type 1s, the Beetle foreground is a '58 or newer w bigger back wndow and across the way is one with the oval window ('52-'57?).

    Nice Fintail near it.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    Keeping with the German car theme, here is one from 1953 that may not be what it appears at first glance.


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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,654
    the earliest K-Gs had lower set headlights and smaller intake holes in the front, like this:

    image

    After no more than a couple years, the more typical style replaced it:

    image

    I too see the oval Beetle, and the fintail is a W111, then a late model car.
    andys120 said:


    I'm not conversant with the difference between early/late Type 1 K-Gs can you enlighten me?

    Speaking of Type 1s, the Beetle foreground is a '58 or newer w bigger back wndow and across the way is one with the oval window ('52-'57?).

    Nice Fintail near it.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,675
    edited December 2020
    It's a coach-built/styled Porsche or VW, looks a bit like the VW-based Rometch Beeskow>



    https://www.coachbuild.com/2/index.php/encyclopedia/coachbuilders-models/category/rometsch

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  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,414
    edited December 2020
    The blue 53 is a very attractive Dannenhaur & Stauss. Combines VW, KG, and some Porsche.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,481
    tmart said:

    The blue 53 is a very attractive Dannenhaur & Stauss. Combines VW, KG, and some Porsche.

    We have a winner! Very Porsche 356-like looks on a mostly VW platform.

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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,237
    @Lostwrench3

    Fair enough - I must admit I don't know a 52 Dodge from a 53 but my problem is all those early 50's Mopar models look the same to me - they're all like large Hillmans with their rounded styling, and it isn't until they get flashier a year or two later that I can start to pick out differences.
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