$125 sounds pretty reasonable for sure. I have yet to see an SEL-P R-Line listed without the bumperdillo.
You were right, the dealer did not enjoy my aggressive counteroffer haha. I have however talked them down to $0 DAS for $550/mo 36/12. If it were you, would you take it?
I didn't realize that your posted deal was $545/mo with $890 DAS (I thought it was $0 DAS). Your deal right now is comparable apples to apples with my quote ($525/mo + 9.5% tax or $575/mo incl tax with $0 DAS) but yours is a bit better since since your MSRP is $809 higher and the payment before tax is about $5/mo less. I don't think there's much more room for discount this month, so if you need to get a car right now, I'd say take it. Personally, I will wait for February or even March incentives. I'm hoping the residual doesn't go down just yet, but the discounts might get deeper. I want my payment before tax to be about 1.0% of MSRP (~$490) or at least definitely below my psychological $500/mo threshold. That would put me at $536/mo with $0 DAS which is $40/mo less than my current deal.
I think $0 DAS means exactly that. Acquisition fee, doc fee, DMV registration fees, etc. are all rolled into the payments. In California and some other states, you pay sales or use tax on each monthly lease payment, so it’s not a big lump sum that has to be rolled into the payments. I don’t know how it works in states where you are taxed on the capitalized cost. You make your first payment 30 days after taking delivery, so you actually make 35 payments on a 3-year lease.
I think $0 DAS means exactly that. Acquisition fee, doc fee, DMV registration fees, etc. are all rolled into the payments. In California and some other states, you pay sales or use tax on each monthly lease payment, so it’s not a big lump sum that has to be rolled into the payments. I don’t know how it works in states where you are taxed on the capitalized cost. You make your first payment 30 days after taking delivery, so you actually make 35 payments on a 3-year lease.
Correct - $0 DAS is also referred to as "sign and drive". Everything (taxes, fees, first payment, etc.) are rolled into the cap cost and made part of the monthly payment.
Doesn't matter how taxes are calculated - it's still $0 from you. Sign the paperwork, take the keys, and off you go!
Michaell, with Arteon MF being 0.00001 (essentially zero interest), is there any reason one should not do $0 due at signing? The only reason I might pay the first month's payment only at signing is to make myself feel better that I got a lower payment by about $16-17.
Michaell, with Arteon MF being 0.00001 (essentially zero interest), is there any reason one should not do $0 due at signing? The only reason I might pay the first month's payment only at signing is to make myself feel better that I got a lower payment by about $16-17.
No preference one way or the other. It's just a matter of amortizing the first payment across the remaining 35, or not. It's not like the interest on that is going to be onerous.
Question about dealer lease cash. Since this$3,250 is apparently direct from manufacturer to dealer, does that mean it's not a taxed incentive from the buyer's perspective (as opposed to customer cash which would be taxed in CA, for example)?
Question about dealer lease cash. Since this$3,250 is apparently direct from manufacturer to dealer, does that mean it's not a taxed incentive from the buyer's perspective (as opposed to customer cash which would be taxed in CA, for example)?
That is correct.
Dealer incentives are not subject to tax - it just reduces the negotiated selling price.
Dealer incentives are not subject to tax - it just reduces the negotiated selling price.
Thank you. What about loyalty cash, conquest money (I know VW doesn't have any of these but asking in general for brands which do have them) or the $500 discount for the VW Partner Program?
Dealer incentives are not subject to tax - it just reduces the negotiated selling price.
Thank you. What about loyalty cash, conquest money (I know VW doesn't have any of these but asking in general for brands which do have them) or the $500 discount for the VW Partner Program?
Anything that is a customer facing incentive is taxable.
Hello, I am looking for this months RV, MF and any incentives on a Arteon SEL R line and the Premium R Line for the 02148 area. 36/12 and 36/10 for both. Thanks in advance.
Hello, I am looking for this months RV, MF and any incentives on a Arteon SEL R line and the Premium R Line for the 02148 area. 36/12 and 36/10 for both. Thanks in advance.
If March Arteon numbers are available, may I have incentives, MF and RV for a 2021 SEL-Premium R-line for 36mo/12k in 90278 zip code?
.00001 and 49% $3600 incentives
I assume the $3,600 is deducted from the selling price, on top of whatever amount the dealer discounts it from MSRP. Loosk like the numbers got slightly worse from February, 1% lower residual but $350 more in incentives. That low residual is a killer on this car.
If March Arteon numbers are available, may I have incentives, MF and RV for a 2021 SEL-Premium R-line for 36mo/12k in 90278 zip code?
.00001 and 49% $3600 incentives
I assume the $3,600 is deducted from the selling price, on top of whatever amount the dealer discounts it from MSRP. Loosk like the numbers got slightly worse from February, 1% lower residual but $350 more in incentives. That low residual is a killer on this car.
No - the incentive is to the dealer, so whatever price they offer will already include it.
Hello, could I get the mf, rv + rebates going on in 33716?
2021 SEL Premium R Line AWD 36/10 and 12
I have a dealer offering the below MSRP $49k Base Cap $40k including only acquisition fee.
If the mf and rv align like I hope it does, I'm hoping be sub $500 a month, without rolling in doc, registration, etc.
36/12 .00001 MF and 49% residual $3600 dealer lease cash
I've got an offer for $579 a month, post tax, with the below. No Down Payment, 0 DAS.
RV 49% MF 0.00001 7% Sales Tax
Market Value Sell Price - $ 48,774 - Discount off LP - 17.67% / $ 8,618.00 = Adjust Price - $ 40,156.00 + Doc, DL, Tax, Etc. - $ 3,199.00 = Gross Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63 - Down Payment - $0 - Trade In Allowances - $0 = Net Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
Total of all Payments - $ 20,843.16
Any thoughts? I am planning on taking it tomorrow.
No clue on pricing. Seems reasonable, given the lease program you have to work with.
One last question, what is the 39/12 and 39/15 MF, RV? I saw 47% and 49% in the previous page, but not sure if it applies to my region. Appreciate all the help, learning the leasing math has been life changing.
Hello, could I get the mf, rv + rebates going on in 33716?
2021 SEL Premium R Line AWD 36/10 and 12
I have a dealer offering the below MSRP $49k Base Cap $40k including only acquisition fee.
If the mf and rv align like I hope it does, I'm hoping be sub $500 a month, without rolling in doc, registration, etc.
36/12 .00001 MF and 49% residual $3600 dealer lease cash
I've got an offer for $579 a month, post tax, with the below. No Down Payment, 0 DAS.
RV 49% MF 0.00001 7% Sales Tax
Market Value Sell Price - $ 48,774 - Discount off LP - 17.67% / $ 8,618.00 = Adjust Price - $ 40,156.00 + Doc, DL, Tax, Etc. - $ 3,199.00 = Gross Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63 - Down Payment - $0 - Trade In Allowances - $0 = Net Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
Total of all Payments - $ 20,843.16
Any thoughts? I am planning on taking it tomorrow.
No clue on pricing. Seems reasonable, given the lease program you have to work with.
One last question, what is the 39/12 and 39/15 MF, RV? I saw 47% and 49% in the previous page, but not sure if it applies to my region. Appreciate all the help, learning the leasing math has been life changing.
Hello, could I get the mf, rv + rebates going on in 33716?
2021 SEL Premium R Line AWD 36/10 and 12
I have a dealer offering the below MSRP $49k Base Cap $40k including only acquisition fee.
If the mf and rv align like I hope it does, I'm hoping be sub $500 a month, without rolling in doc, registration, etc.
36/12 .00001 MF and 49% residual $3600 dealer lease cash
I've got an offer for $579 a month, post tax, with the below. No Down Payment, 0 DAS.
RV 49% MF 0.00001 7% Sales Tax
Market Value Sell Price - $ 48,774 - Discount off LP - 17.67% / $ 8,618.00 = Adjust Price - $ 40,156.00 + Doc, DL, Tax, Etc. - $ 3,199.00 = Gross Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63 - Down Payment - $0 - Trade In Allowances - $0 = Net Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
Total of all Payments - $ 20,843.16
Any thoughts? I am planning on taking it tomorrow.
No clue on pricing. Seems reasonable, given the lease program you have to work with.
One last question, what is the 39/12 and 39/15 MF, RV? I saw 47% and 49% in the previous page, but not sure if it applies to my region. Appreciate all the help, learning the leasing math has been life changing.
Subtract 2% from 36/12 RV for 39/12
Subtract 2% from 39/12 RV for 39/15
Same MF and incentives
Michaell and kyfdx, I cannot thank you and these forums enough. I took the 36/12 deal at 579 a month 0 DAS and first month paid by VW (which I see as an extra $16 off per month savings) just now. I went in fully prepared because of the quick responses from y'all. I am perfectly happy with the end result. The Audi's, Stinger GT1s, and similar hatchback offerings were coming in above the mid 700's at the cheapest, so while the Arteon may not be the best AWD performance car, it gave me all the tech and comfort options I wanted, more so than similar specced competitions, for the price.
Hello, could I get the mf, rv + rebates going on in 33716?
2021 SEL Premium R Line AWD 36/10 and 12
I have a dealer offering the below MSRP $49k Base Cap $40k including only acquisition fee.
If the mf and rv align like I hope it does, I'm hoping be sub $500 a month, without rolling in doc, registration, etc.
36/12 .00001 MF and 49% residual $3600 dealer lease cash
I've got an offer for $579 a month, post tax, with the below. No Down Payment, 0 DAS.
RV 49% MF 0.00001 7% Sales Tax
Market Value Sell Price - $ 48,774 - Discount off LP - 17.67% / $ 8,618.00 = Adjust Price - $ 40,156.00 + Doc, DL, Tax, Etc. - $ 3,199.00 = Gross Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63 - Down Payment - $0 - Trade In Allowances - $0 = Net Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
Total of all Payments - $ 20,843.16
Any thoughts? I am planning on taking it tomorrow.
No clue on pricing. Seems reasonable, given the lease program you have to work with.
One last question, what is the 39/12 and 39/15 MF, RV? I saw 47% and 49% in the previous page, but not sure if it applies to my region. Appreciate all the help, learning the leasing math has been life changing.
Subtract 2% from 36/12 RV for 39/12
Subtract 2% from 39/12 RV for 39/15
Same MF and incentives
Michaell and kyfdx, I cannot thank you and these forums enough. I took the 36/12 deal at 579 a month 0 DAS and first month paid by VW (which I see as an extra $16 off per month savings) just now. I went in fully prepared because of the quick responses from y'all. I am perfectly happy with the end result. The Audi's, Stinger GT1s, and similar hatchback offerings were coming in above the mid 700's at the cheapest, so while the Arteon may not be the best AWD performance car, it gave me all the tech and comfort options I wanted, more so than similar specced competitions, for the price.
Called around different dealerships today looking for a great lease price on the Arteon and they quoting me residuals of 40-44, not the 50%. Where do you get the 50% residual and get them to use that instead of 40-44?
Called around different dealerships today looking for a great lease price on the Arteon and they quoting me residuals of 40-44, not the 50%. Where do you get the 50% residual and get them to use that instead of 40-44?
@Dan_W said:
I believe the incentives should change today (5/4), if they will or not though that's another question...
But I'm looking for the RV/MF on a 2021 Arteon SEL Premium in zip 48154, please
36months and/or 39months....7500 miles/year
.00001 MF
50%/48% residual
$3900 dealer lease cash
Thanks!
MF stayed the same (as it has been)....so did the residual change or did they just add ($300) extra lease cash versus last month?
(I had a deal lined up for last month but wasn’t able to sign the paperwork in time and just want to see what changed for this month—for a apples to apples comparison to the deal I had lined up)
@Dan_W said:
I believe the incentives should change today (5/4), if they will or not though that's another question...
But I'm looking for the RV/MF on a 2021 Arteon SEL Premium in zip 48154, please
36months and/or 39months....7500 miles/year
.00001 MF
50%/48% residual
$3900 dealer lease cash
Thanks!
MF stayed the same (as it has been)....so did the residual change or did they just add ($300) extra lease cash versus last month?
(I had a deal lined up for last month but wasn’t able to sign the paperwork in time and just want to see what changed for this month—for a apples to apples comparison to the deal I had lined up)
I don't have access to last month's numbers. Feel free to scroll back and look.
@kyfdx said:
I don't have access to last month's numbers. Feel free to scroll back and look.
So yeah, there's $300 extra lease cash BUT the residual dropped 1% it turns out and then the "Sign Then Drive" went away too.....just FYI for anyone else
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Doesn't matter how taxes are calculated - it's still $0 from you. Sign the paperwork, take the keys, and off you go!
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Dealer incentives are not subject to tax - it just reduces the negotiated selling price.
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36/10 and 12
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MSRP $49k
Base Cap $40k including only acquisition fee.
If the mf and rv align like I hope it does, I'm hoping be sub $500 a month, without rolling in doc, registration, etc.
.00001 MF and 49% residual
$3600 dealer lease cash
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RV 49% MF 0.00001 7% Sales Tax
Market Value Sell Price - $ 48,774
- Discount off LP - 17.67% / $ 8,618.00
= Adjust Price - $ 40,156.00
+ Doc, DL, Tax, Etc. - $ 3,199.00
= Gross Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
- Down Payment - $0
- Trade In Allowances - $0
= Net Cap Cost - $ 43,354.63
Total of all Payments - $ 20,843.16
Any thoughts? I am planning on taking it tomorrow.
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Subtract 2% from 39/12 RV for 39/15
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I believe the incentives should change today (5/4), if they will or not though that's another question...
But I'm looking for the RV/MF on a 2021 Arteon SEL Premium in zip 48154, please
36months and/or 39months....7500 miles/year
.00001 MF
50%/48% residual
$3900 dealer lease cash
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MF stayed the same (as it has been)....so did the residual change or did they just add ($300) extra lease cash versus last month?
(I had a deal lined up for last month but wasn’t able to sign the paperwork in time and just want to see what changed for this month—for a apples to apples comparison to the deal I had lined up)
I don't have access to last month's numbers. Feel free to scroll back and look.
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So yeah, there's $300 extra lease cash BUT the residual dropped 1% it turns out and then the "Sign Then Drive" went away too.....just FYI for anyone else
$3900 dealer lease cash
All trims
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Thanks!