Price is exactly comparable to the gold one (difference being trim level). No shots underneath, but, if you're leaning toward one of these, I don't think you'll do poorly with either one.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
I didn't know that Ford had changed the IP in the Mustang from the one used in the 2023...
...to this one found in the 2024 model:
Not sure it is an improvement.
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jmonroe
Looks like the materials quality has improved a lot.
Seats appear the same, as do the door cards and the right 1/3rd of the dash. Not sure what you’re seeing there.
———————————————— Same here. Even though I’m seeing this on my cell phone I’m pretty sure it would look the same if I saw those views on my higher quality desktop monitor.
I would have to touch the interior materials to make a valid comment about its quality.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I know that some don't agree, but I like the screen installed inside a traditional instrument binnacle- as Ford did with the 2018-2023 Mustang and Mercedes did with the W205 C43:
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
@qbrozen said:
Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.
@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b
Your BMW is a great car. I I don’t think it is the right car for my son. At least I would have peace of mind buying the car from you. That’s a big plus.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
@nyccarguy, I've got a tip for you. After you cross the bridge to Kitty Hawk, look for 'The Woods Rd' on the right. Don't speed but it gets you around one of the big choke points where people either go North or South. It brings you back to 154 at a 7-11 and Rte 12 is one road east of that.
@qbrozen said:
Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.
@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b
Your BMW is a great car. I I don’t think it is the right car for my son. At least I would have peace of mind buying the car from you. That’s a big plus.
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Yes, you should have bought it from him. He throws in a lifetime warranty for poster buddies. Too late now.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Is it weird to say that I like the steering wheel most?
I really like the AMG wheel; the switches and buttons have a precise feel to them and the two touch pads allow you to access dozens of functions and/or adjustments while never taking your hands off the wheel.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
I stopped by the dealership tonight. It was recently closed, but man, what a ghost town! There were perhaps twenty new vehicles of all makes on their lots, maybe two dozen used vehicles, and 90% of the space was just empty. It had a very abandoned feel about it.
No Siennas seen, but it is vaguely possible that one could be in the showroom. I couldn't see in from the car. They had a Subaru Solterra on the lot in a lovely red color. I've yet to see one on the road.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250
@au1994 said:
Sorry it turned out like this. I really think it would have done well on BaT if they would have allowed the reserve.
Both auction houses really did me wrong, IMHO. Considering how two BaT buyers backed out of the Nissan and the one very low sale of the Pajero on C&B, one of them should have said “ok, we owe you one, so we’ll accept this at reserve.”
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@xwesx said:
Whoa! I just checked the dealer website here in Fairbanks, and they list a Sienna Platinum, good color combo, MSRP + winterization (standard here for dealers)...
@tifighter Long shot, but if you decided to bite, I could drive it down to you. We're leaving here on 8/11 for our annual Ohio trip.
(the car would have 2,200 miles upon arrival)
Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.
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Whoa! I just checked the dealer website here in Fairbanks, and they list a Sienna Platinum, good color combo, MSRP + winterization (standard here for dealers)...
@tifighter Long shot, but if you decided to bite, I could drive it down to you. We're leaving here on 8/11 for our annual Ohio trip.
(the car would have 2,200 miles upon arrival)
Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.
Not just Toyota. I had 6 of my fleet spec F-150’s show up at the dealer a couple of weeks ago and next thing I know they were on their website. Kinda torqued me as they had PO’s against them.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.
Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.
I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.
To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10-12k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.
Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.
I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.
To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.
When I had the RDX in for the timing belt fun last year, they put me in a MDX Type S as a loaner. Even though I have a hard time wrapping my brain around ANYthing at that $75K price point, that's a badass vehicle.
I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.
Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.
I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.
To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.
Your thoughts mimic my own, especially the seats. I wish they at least had the Advance seats (adjustable bolsters/thigh extension) bundled with the A-Spec. The biggest complaint from Type S owners seems to be gas mileage.
1997 Honda Prelude Base - 2022 Acura MDX Type S Advance - 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Off Road - 2006 BMW 330Ci ZHP
@pensfan83 said:
The biggest complaint from Type S owners seems to be gas mileage.
I wondered about this as well, so I zeroed the trip computer for each test drive. Same 10 mile loop, city and some freeway, and both showed the same number at the end. Not terribly scientific but that’s what I saw.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
I had the new Cooper tires put on the Prius this afternoon and submitted the $50 rebate. I drove it briefly on the (completely dry) interstate, and couldn't tell much difference in noise or ride quality, although it was a brief stretch and I didn't get above 70.
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Honestly these large screens with everything integrated and software controlled are probably a net savings rather than all separate modules.
Bonus is most consumers love them and they look “fancy”
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
A real poster buddy would have turned around and gone back when he realized he screwed up.
jmonroe
Should have left it alone. Another example of fixing something that wasn’t broken.
jmonroe
Someone from LH suggested this:
https://boston.craigslist.org/nos/cto/d/newburyport-2008-subaru-outback-wagon/7643574058.html
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Ask me how I know.
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C’mon man, say it ain’t so.
jmonroe
Same here. Even though I’m seeing this on my cell phone I’m pretty sure it would look the same if I saw those views on my higher quality desktop monitor.
I would have to touch the interior materials to make a valid comment about its quality.
jmonroe
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Got a bare minimum offer on the bimmer and accepted. We’ll see if it goes through.
@nyccarguy will come to regret letting it slip through the first time he has to deal with subie head gaskets. ;b
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
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That car is going to make someone very happy. Bummed for you it took so long to sell.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Your BMW is a great car. I I don’t think it is the right car for my son. At least I would have peace of mind buying the car from you. That’s a big plus.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I've got a tip for you. After you cross the bridge to Kitty Hawk, look for 'The Woods Rd' on the right.
Don't speed but it gets you around one of the big choke points where people either go North or South.
It brings you back to 154 at a 7-11 and Rte 12 is one road east of that.
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Yes, you should have bought it from him. He throws in a lifetime warranty for poster buddies. Too late now.
jmonroe
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
No Siennas seen, but it is vaguely possible that one could be in the showroom. I couldn't see in from the car. They had a Subaru Solterra on the lot in a lovely red color. I've yet to see one on the road.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
Both auction houses really did me wrong, IMHO. Considering how two BaT buyers backed out of the Nissan and the one very low sale of the Pajero on C&B, one of them should have said “ok, we owe you one, so we’ll accept this at reserve.”
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
We didn’t get any storms at Casa RB last night- but a tree fell anyway. At least it missed the Wrangler.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport 2020 C43 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Time to fire up the chainsaw!!
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I’m waiting at the DMV right now. This is so nerve racking!
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Road test happening I assume.
Don’t worry. Once he passes, it gets even more nerve wracking!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Thanks for the generous offer, Wes. What I learned from a few local Toyota peeps was that Toyota keeps pre sold cars listed on the inventory page, thinking that if a consumer contacts the dealer, then maybe they can sell them a Highlander or something else. Of course, this just angers half of the people that contact them right off the bat. I’m sure it’s fine.
Not just Toyota. I had 6 of my fleet spec F-150’s show up at the dealer a couple of weeks ago and next thing I know they were on their website. Kinda torqued me as they had PO’s against them.
2021 Jeep Wrangler Sahara 4xe Granite Crystal over Saddle
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Oh dear(I mean, congrats!)Time to find that Outback for him.
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I finally found a MDX Type S to drive, back to back with a MDX Advance. The S is hard to come by here, with typical ADM in the PNW of $5-10k .For those who do not partake in all things Acura, the primary upgrades are a turbo motor, air suspension vs standard, and brakes. Type S Advance has upgraded massage seats and an upgraded stereo as well.
Dealer had both of these in inventory as CPO units, which was a little surprising, so it seemed like a good opportunity to compare them. Price difference between them was about $8K.
I could feel the torque difference within 100 meters. The torque helps make the 10 speed feel smoother between the shifts, filling in some gaps at lower rpm. With air suspension, body control is sharper of course when in the sport settings, but also softer than the standard car when in comfort mode. On 40 series tires. Then there are the seats - these aren’t the limp air bladders I’ve felt in the Germans. These massagers are Strong. I had to turn the intensity down.
To me, the S gives you a lot over the standard Advance trim car for the price difference. Vs a Q7, assuming MSRP, it is a bargain. Equipped with similar options, you’re looking at a Q7 55 Prestige with the Lux pack for around $10-12k more. But with each dealer getting one or two max around here, they aren’t available at MSRP. Because Honda.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Maybe this Kenworth is where BMW got the design inspiration for the current generation M3/ M4 grilles??
I wondered about this as well, so I zeroed the trip computer for each test drive. Same 10 mile loop, city and some freeway, and both showed the same number at the end. Not terribly scientific but that’s what I saw.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
I agree.
23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
Well played!
I had the new Cooper tires put on the Prius this afternoon and submitted the $50 rebate. I drove it briefly on the (completely dry) interstate, and couldn't tell much difference in noise or ride quality, although it was a brief stretch and I didn't get above 70.
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Congrats. I know the feeling just don’t let your guard down.
It’s a long story that I’ll have to tell some day.
jmonroe
Congrats, @tifighter ! Well done.
+1. Nice vehicle!
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Awesome! Congrats
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